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Jun 5, 2011 8:38 PM CST English Grammar
mercy
mercymercyKuala Lumpur, Malaysia7 Threads 95 Posts
The following text was part of an exam.

Sam lived in the mountains. His family was very poor. Every morning, Sam _____(1)_____ up early to go to school. He would run down the mountain and dash back home _____(2)_____ school was over. People often told him to stop schooling. Sam refused to listen to ____(3)_______. He loved the magic ___(4)_______ writing and reading words.

One day, a sports official from the capital watched Sam _____(5)_____ home after school. He realized the boy was a natural marathon runner. He ____(7)______ Sam to represent the country in a world sports tournament.


Question 1

The choice of answers for this question were


A get

B got

C gets

D getting

The answer given by the teacher who set the paper and as according to the reference book she used, the answer is got. However others said that the answer is gets. Which answer is correct? If gets is the answer, some of them question why should the answer be in the simple present tense when the whole passage is in the past tense? Does the signal word every require us to use the simple present tense since it is a habitual action even though the person does not exist, has died or no longer does the activity? Please explain the grammar rule to support the answer.
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Jun 5, 2011 8:48 PM CST English Grammar
Dagosto
DagostoDagostoKnoxville, Tennessee USA74 Threads 15 Polls 3,076 Posts
mercy: The following text was part of an exam.

Sam lived in the mountains. His family was very poor. Every morning, Sam _____(1)_____ up early to go to school. He would run down the mountain and dash back home _____(2)_____ school was over. People often told him to stop schooling. Sam refused to listen to ____(3)_______. He loved the magic ___(4)_______ writing and reading words.

One day, a sports official from the capital watched Sam _____(5)_____ home after school. He realized the boy was a natural marathon runner. He ____(7)______ Sam to represent the country in a world sports tournament.Question 1

The choice of answers for this question were

A get

B got

C gets

D getting

The answer given by the teacher who set the paper and as according to the reference book she used, the answer is got. However others said that the answer is gets. Which answer is correct? If gets is the answer, some of them question why should the answer be in the simple present tense when the whole passage is in the past tense? Does the signal word every require us to use the simple present tense since it is a habitual action even though the person does not exist, has died or no longer does the activity? Please explain the grammar rule to support the answer.


Consistency demands that since Sam "lived," he also "got." I find it difficult to understand why anyone would argue in favor of "gets." Only in telling jokes is an unexpected shift in temporal sense appropriate (e.g., "Sam lived in the mountains. One day he gets up...").

wine
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Jun 5, 2011 8:50 PM CST English Grammar
bhg0405
bhg0405bhg0405Chicago, Illinois USA1 Threads 15 Posts
I would actually say: " Sam would get up early to go to school" because this action was repeated in the past.

The Past Indefinite tense shows a completed action that took place in the past so the correct answer is " got."

The passage that you've provided describes past actions: lived in the mountains.Was very poor.
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Jun 5, 2011 8:50 PM CST English Grammar
Dreamyone
DreamyoneDreamyoneRaleigh, North Carolina USA4 Threads 1 Polls 913 Posts
dude you have to much time on your hand or want someone to do your homeworkconfused
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Jun 5, 2011 8:50 PM CST English Grammar
Amadeus1756
Amadeus1756Amadeus1756Germany, Lower Saxony Germany72 Posts
Listen to the teacher and not to "others" because she is right. The text is in the past tense, so you have to stick to the past tense. Sam had certain habits when he used to live in the mountains, which he presumably no longer does. Therefore you can assume his habits have changed too, and using the past tense indicates that the statement only applies to the time when he was still at home in the mountains.
I hope this makes sense.
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Jun 5, 2011 8:58 PM CST English Grammar
Dagosto
DagostoDagostoKnoxville, Tennessee USA74 Threads 15 Polls 3,076 Posts
Amadeus1756: Listen to the teacher and not to "others" because she is right. The text is in the past tense, so you have to stick to the past tense. Sam had certain habits when he used to live in the mountains, which he presumably no longer does. Therefore you can assume his habits have changed too, and using the past tense indicates that the statement only applies to the time when he was still at home in the mountains.
I hope this makes sense.


Not necessarily. But one would hope her reference book at least would get it right.

Myself, I once endured a history teacher who wrote "Syeudonym" on the chalkboard. When I pointed out this was incorrect, he insisted he had looked it up. I walked out of class and went to the principle's office. (Mistakes are one thing, but intentionally misinforming others is a different ball of wax.) Result: I was excused from his class the rest of the year. Ironically, a week later the teacher's union went on strike, and when they returned, he did not.

wine
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Jun 5, 2011 8:59 PM CST English Grammar
Dagosto
DagostoDagostoKnoxville, Tennessee USA74 Threads 15 Polls 3,076 Posts
Dagosto: Not necessarily. But one would hope her reference book at least would get it right.

Myself, I once endured a history teacher who wrote "Syeudonym" on the chalkboard. When I pointed out this was incorrect, he insisted he had looked it up. I walked out of class and went to the principle's office. (Mistakes are one thing, but intentionally misinforming others is a different ball of wax.) Result: I was excused from his class the rest of the year. Ironically, a week later the teacher's union went on strike, and when they returned, he did not.


And look at that, I just misspelled "principal." Well, no one is perfect. So admitting mistakes is okay.

wine
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Jun 5, 2011 9:02 PM CST English Grammar
Amadeus1756
Amadeus1756Amadeus1756Germany, Lower Saxony Germany72 Posts
Dagosto: And look at that, I just misspelled "principal." Well, no one is perfect. So admitting mistakes is okay.

A good teacher should welcome being questioned by bright students. ;)
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Jun 5, 2011 9:14 PM CST English Grammar
ttmmm
ttmmmttmmmmullingar, Westmeath Ireland10 Threads 8 Polls 499 Posts
mercy: The following text was part of an exam.

Sam lived in the mountains. His family was very poor. Every morning, Sam _____(1)_____ up early to go to school. He would run down the mountain and dash back home _____(2)_____ school was over. People often told him to stop schooling. Sam refused to listen to ____(3)_______. He loved the magic ___(4)_______ writing and reading words.

One day, a sports official from the capital watched Sam _____(5)_____ home after school. He realized the boy was a natural marathon runner. He ____(7)______ Sam to represent the country in a world sports tournament.Question 1

The choice of answers for this question wereA get

B got

C gets

D getting

The answer given by the teacher who set the paper and as according to the reference book she used, the answer is got. However others said that the answer is gets. Which answer is correct? If gets is the answer, some of them question why should the answer be in the simple present tense when the whole passage is in the past tense? Does the signal word every require us to use the simple present tense since it is a habitual action even though the person does not exist, has died or no longer does the activity? Please explain the grammar rule to support the answer.









u must be so bored
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Jun 5, 2011 9:15 PM CST English Grammar
Lerie2010
Lerie2010Lerie2010Wellington, New Zealand869 Posts
Amadeus1756: Listen to the teacher and not to "others" because she is right. The text is in the past tense, so you have to stick to the past tense. Sam had certain habits when he used to live in the mountains, which he presumably no longer does. Therefore you can assume his habits have changed too, and using the past tense indicates that the statement only applies to the time when he was still at home in the mountains.
I hope this makes sense.



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Jun 5, 2011 9:17 PM CST English Grammar
Lerie2010
Lerie2010Lerie2010Wellington, New Zealand869 Posts
ttmmm: u must be so bored


We all must be bored laugh
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Jun 5, 2011 9:23 PM CST English Grammar
MovinFWD
MovinFWDMovinFWDDaytona Beach, Florida USA36 Threads 3,234 Posts
mercy: The following text was part of an exam.

Sam lived in the mountains. His family was very poor. Every morning, Sam wakes up early to go to school.
professor
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Jun 5, 2011 9:27 PM CST English Grammar
oh my I just dont know if i can handle all the excitement here tonight banana banana rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 5, 2011 9:36 PM CST English Grammar
MovinFWD
MovinFWDMovinFWDDaytona Beach, Florida USA36 Threads 3,234 Posts
gemeh22: oh my I just dont know if i can handle all the excitement here tonight


mercy: The following text was part of an exam.

Sam lived in the mountains. His family was very poor. Every morning, Sam wakes up early with a woody to go to school.
Is that better?laugh wave
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Jun 5, 2011 9:37 PM CST English Grammar
Dagosto
DagostoDagostoKnoxville, Tennessee USA74 Threads 15 Polls 3,076 Posts
gemeh22: oh my I just dont know if i can handle all the excitement here tonight


Don't make me tickle you again. You know I'll do it.

wine
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Jun 5, 2011 9:38 PM CST English Grammar
MovinFWD: Is that better?
rolling on the floor laughing well that does sound much more interesting rolling on the floor laughing wave wave
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Jun 5, 2011 9:38 PM CST English Grammar
Dagosto: Don't make me tickle you again. You know I'll do it.
tickling gets you into trouble rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 5, 2011 9:45 PM CST English Grammar
Dagosto
DagostoDagostoKnoxville, Tennessee USA74 Threads 15 Polls 3,076 Posts
gemeh22: tickling gets you into trouble


Trouble and I are acquaintances of long standing. grin devil

wine
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Jun 5, 2011 11:13 PM CST English Grammar
carenza
carenzacarenzanear the sea, South Holland Netherlands82 Threads 1 Polls 3,113 Posts
I am Dutch.....so no native English speaker....and even I would have said 'got'...

dancing
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Jun 5, 2011 11:18 PM CST English Grammar
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
In response to: The following text was part of an exam.

Sam lived in the mountains. His family was very poor. Every morning, Sam _____(1)_____ up early to go to school. He would run down the mountain and dash back home _____(2)_____ school was over. People often told him to stop schooling. Sam refused to listen to ____(3)_______. He loved the magic ___(4)_______ writing and reading words.

One day, a sports official from the capital watched Sam _____(5)_____ home after school. He realized the boy was a natural marathon runner. He ____(7)______ Sam to represent the country in a world sports tournament.Question 1

The choice of answers for this question wereA get

B got

C gets

D getting

The answer given by the teacher who set the paper and as according to the reference book she used, the answer is got. However others said that the answer is gets. Which answer is correct? If gets is the answer, some of them question why should the answer be in the simple present tense when the whole passage is in the past tense? Does the signal word every require us to use the simple present tense since it is a habitual action even though the person does not exist, has died or no longer does the activity? Please explain the grammar rule to support the answer.


Do we get grades for this.laugh
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