The internet has the power to topple dictatorships ( Archived) (8)

Jun 20, 2011 10:30 AM CST The internet has the power to topple dictatorships
Back in October I started a thread about how the internet has destroyed 5 industries. You can read it here if you like.



Lately though I have come to realize that the Internet in addition to destroying can also create or enable suppressed people to communicate freely for the first time and assemble in enough strength to overthrow often brutal bureaucracies. The recent events in the middle east called "Arab Spring" is a game changing event that is going on right before our eyes. I never thought these family run, totalitarian regimes would be overthrown in my lifetime.

People, you are witnessing history in the making.
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Jun 20, 2011 10:34 AM CST The internet has the power to topple dictatorships
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
Or is that until the despots and dictators work out how to use the internet for their own ends?

Venusenvy did a thread recently about face recognition technology.

Long term, would it just be the same of battle for power and control, just in a different medium?
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Jun 20, 2011 10:36 AM CST The internet has the power to topple dictatorships
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
Indeed, the times they are a changing.

France to host Internet leaders for "e-G8" talks

French President Nicolas Sarkozy will host technology titans, including Facebook, Google and Amazon, at a summit to debate how governments can encourage innovation on the Internet,
while taming its excesses.



I wonder what the G8 are planning to put in place to protect their own governments from such a public threat !!
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Jun 20, 2011 11:22 AM CST The internet has the power to topple dictatorships
So much has happened in so short a time it's almost impossible to keep track of it all. I found this timeline helpful to put all these events into chronological perspective.




Tunesia Dec 2010:
"They were angered by an incident where a young man, Mohamed Bouazizi, had set fire to himself in protest after police confiscated the fruit and vegetables he was selling from a street stall, the witnesses said."

He died BTW. If anybody told him this act would light the fuse of a total uprising in the Middle East he probably wouldn't have believed it.
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Jun 20, 2011 11:52 AM CST The internet has the power to topple dictatorships
u2Kitty
u2Kittyu2KittyClose to the ocean, South Denmark Denmark23 Threads 974 Posts
RDM59: Indeed, the times they are a changing.

France to host Internet leaders for "e-G8" talks

French President Nicolas Sarkozy will host technology titans, including Facebook, Google and Amazon, at a summit to debate how governments can encourage innovation on the Internet, while taming its excesses.



I wonder what the G8 are planning to put in place to protect their own governments from such a public threat !!


thumbs up

Notice how a lot is written at the moment about cyberattacks on CIA IMF, chinese hackerattacks, p*dophile rings...

This will be the excuses for censoring the net in the future.
Google InfoWarfare.

US has already made a Network Warfare Battalion
and a new strategic doctrin is being worked out, to allow US to attack "hackers" with conventional arms in their homecountry.
(Most "hackers" seems to come from Russia - China)

And the realtime democracy tool, which the internet certainly provides, seems to dangerous for certain interests. It is now possible to search your own information, independant of mainstream news.

So enjoy the free surf as long as it lasts wave
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Jun 20, 2011 11:59 AM CST The internet has the power to topple dictatorships
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
u2Kitty: Notice how a lot is written at the moment about cyberattacks on CIA IMF, chinese hackerattacks, p*dophile rings...

This will be the excuses for censoring the net in the future.
Google InfoWarfare.

US has already made a Network Warfare Battalion
and a new strategic doctrin is being worked out, to allow US to attack "hackers" with conventional arms in their homecountry.
(Most "hackers" seems to come from Russia - China)

And the realtime democracy tool, which the internet certainly provides, seems to dangerous for certain interests. It is now possible to search your own information, independant of mainstream news.

So enjoy the free surf as long as it lasts


This will be the excuses for censoring the net in the future.
Google InfoWarfare.


thumbs up ... you bet ya, but of course it will be manipulated by the govt/media in to that of a national, society threat and whatever restrictions are imposed will be for our own personal safety and protection and therefore accepted as totally justifiable.
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Jun 20, 2011 12:01 PM CST The internet has the power to topple dictatorships
u2Kitty
u2Kittyu2KittyClose to the ocean, South Denmark Denmark23 Threads 974 Posts
RDM59: This will be the excuses for censoring the net in the future.
Google InfoWarfare.

... you bet ya, but of course it will be manipulated by the govt/media in to that of a national, society threat and whatever restrictions are imposed will be for our own personal safety and protection and therefore accepted as totally justifiable.


Which means most will ask for it frustrated frustrated
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Jun 20, 2011 1:17 PM CST The internet has the power to topple dictatorships
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
ooby_dooby: Back in October I started a thread about how the internet has destroyed 5 industries. You can read it here if you like.



Lately though I have come to realize that the Internet in addition to destroying can also create or enable suppressed people to communicate freely for the first time and assemble in enough strength to overthrow often brutal bureaucracies. The recent events in the middle east called "Arab Spring" is a game changing event that is going on right before our eyes. I never thought these family run, totalitarian regimes would be overthrown in my lifetime.

People, you are witnessing history in the making.


I believe that the Arab spring was in the making facebook or no facebook.

The exact same thing happened in Europe in 1848(it's where the 'spring' part in Arab spring comes from)needless to say this was a long time before facebook. Communication is the easy part as long as you stay connected with normal people on the street. It's the courage and the will that rising up requires that's the hard part.

By the way what happened in 1848 quite arguably made things worse, which is something to keep in mind.
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