Woman and the search for truth (71)
aathought: Why do Women never say what they really mean....are they too insecure, or is what they really want in life too embarassing to mention.
What's a women? 
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Other sole destine for the scorn of the "WOMEN" stand back,I salute you and you bravery
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EagleWoman: So women's lib had some use after all?
Does that mean that in more "unequal" societies most men are more sycophantic?
Not sure about your oppening paragraph ... If I'd been MORE picky in my past may be I wouldn't be on a dating site aged 51.
Does that mean that in more "unequal" societies most men are more sycophantic?
Not sure about your oppening paragraph ... If I'd been MORE picky in my past may be I wouldn't be on a dating site aged 51.
Everything has its use, society bounces from one extreme to another, the best of times, the most "moderate" times, are the times of transition when no group holds social dominance.
Which is where we are now in 2011 as Women's Lib decays in power, perhaps this being a positive effect of the apathy of the young, through apathy we've lost the divisionary machinations of our parents, through our lack of belief in society we no longer attack society with the same fervour. But then this apathy is a new and dangerous extreme in its own right.
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TheRedSquirrel86: Everything has its use, society bounces from one extreme to another, the best of times, the most "moderate" times, are the times of transition when no group holds social dominance.
Which is where we are now in 2011 as Women's Lib decays in power, perhaps this being a positive effect of the apathy of the young, through apathy we've lost the divisionary machinations of our parents, through our lack of belief in society we no longer attack society with the same fervour. But then this apathy is a new and dangerous extreme in its own right.
Which is where we are now in 2011 as Women's Lib decays in power, perhaps this being a positive effect of the apathy of the young, through apathy we've lost the divisionary machinations of our parents, through our lack of belief in society we no longer attack society with the same fervour. But then this apathy is a new and dangerous extreme in its own right.
I think what you call "women's lib" and what I call "women's lib" could be 2 different things ...
I think the divisionary machinations were in place well before your parents era. Women lib was trying to address that.
I would say we're closer than ever to equal pay for equal jobs and equal human rights between men and women in a lot of societies.
The pendulum effect is very obvious in most societies implementing reforms. The times of transition are precisely when the pendulum swings too far left or too far right . The best times are when a balance is reached rather than during times of transition. IMO
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EagleWoman: So women's lib had some use after all?
Does that mean that in more "unequal" societies most men are more sycophantic?
Not sure about your oppening paragraph ... If I'd been MORE picky in my past may be I wouldn't be on a dating site aged 51.
Does that mean that in more "unequal" societies most men are more sycophantic?
Not sure about your oppening paragraph ... If I'd been MORE picky in my past may be I wouldn't be on a dating site aged 51.
Hmmmm ..the past have a lot to answer for ... So it true ,women ,also make distakes, for awhile there I really questioned the role males played in relationships as the controlling nature of women seldom released thier mates to exersise their individual behaviour into the relationship. 
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aathought: Hmmmm ..the past have a lot to answer for ...
So it true ,women ,also make distakes, for awhile there I really questioned the role males played in relationships as the controlling nature of women seldom released thier mates to exersise their individual behaviour into the relationship.
So it true ,women ,also make distakes, for awhile there I really questioned the role males played in relationships as the controlling nature of women seldom released thier mates to exersise their individual behaviour into the relationship.
Mistakes, I made a few
I've loved, I've laughed and cried
I've had my fill, my share of losing
And now as time goes by, I find it all so amusing
To think I did all that, and may I say
Not in a shy way!
Oh! no! Oh no not me! I did it my way!!!
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she is human...
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Are we talking about positional power ..at home
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In response to: Why do Women never say what they really mean....are they too insecure, or is what they really want in life too embarassing to mention.
Sorry, but I have to earn a few pesos to live, albeit in a virtual way!
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aathought: Are we talking about positional power ..at home
I don't know
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so now there could be shift, moving power away from "positional power" as apposed to "intellectual power" to ..thats it too much to drink tonight ... best clear out before I rattle on and on ..confusing myself
enjoy your selves and cheers from me .
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aathought: Why do Women never say what they really mean....are they too insecure, or is what they really want in life too embarassing to mention.
Guess I am the exception as I always say what I mean. Maybe spending 20 years in the military; I have learned a thing or two from guys and that is always to speak my mind even if it hurts someone's feelings.
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single4ever: Guess I am the exception as I always say what I mean. Maybe spending 20 years in the military; I have learned a thing or two from guys and that is always to speak my mind even if it hurts someone's feelings.
You don't have to have been in the military to express clearly what you mean. Just being confident does the trick.
Just because the OP is making a statement and making it sound like a great truth doesn't officially make it THE TRUTH
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EagleWoman: You don't have to have been in the military to express clearly what you mean. Just being confident does the trick.
Just because the OP is making a statement and making it sound like a great truth doesn't officially make it THE TRUTH
Just because the OP is making a statement and making it sound like a great truth doesn't officially make it THE TRUTH
I think he may be referring to when some women say there is nothing wrong when a guy asks this. Some say nothing is wrong when there clearly is. I realize its not just the women that do this as I have know guys to do the same darn thing. I felt like I had to be a mind reader with them as well.
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single4ever: I think he may be referring to when some women say there is nothing wrong when a guy asks this. Some say nothing is wrong when there clearly is. I realize its not just the women that do this as I have know guys to do the same darn thing. I felt like I had to be a mind reader with them as well.
I think we're assuming here may be. The OP made a general statement
I think I made a post on the subject you mention on one of HL threads recently.
What does "there's nothing wrong" mean?
What does "there clearly is" mean?
Why should someone who has something on their mind that they need to ponder about have their pondering process split open before they're ready to talk about whatever? Why does this mean they're not ok?
Respecting one another's thinking space without feeling threatened is important to me.
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EagleWoman: The thing is it all depends on individuals.
Also if they're emotionally healthy.
I wouldn't expect my partner to be tiptoeing around me while I'm pondering something. But some people use silences and moodyness as part of mind games for attention and as a form of passive/aggressive controle. Sounds like this could have been the case since you were made to feel like you had to tiptoe around him.
More hugs for you
Also if they're emotionally healthy.
I wouldn't expect my partner to be tiptoeing around me while I'm pondering something. But some people use silences and moodyness as part of mind games for attention and as a form of passive/aggressive controle. Sounds like this could have been the case since you were made to feel like you had to tiptoe around him.
More hugs for you
Hmm, you are an intelligent woman. I always thought it was something I did wrong; thus the tiptoeing. Never occurred to me it was a mind game. Looks like I learned something new today and thanks for the hugs. I could sure use one as I am truly feeling down.
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single4ever: Hmm, you are an intelligent woman. I always thought it was something I did wrong; thus the tiptoeing. Never occurred to me it was a mind game. Looks like I learned something new today and thanks for the hugs. I could sure use one as I am truly feeling down.
May be also there could have been something on his mind to do with his past that he was not able to share and the fact you thought you'd done something wrong made you feel like tiptoeing. But troubled minds often fall into mind game patterns.
Whichever way you look at it ... YOU did nothing wrong!!
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more than brave. kamikazi I would say