Ron Paul on Foreign Policy ( Archived) (201)

maxmate1: And so can you.

So how which Cantons in Switzerland women still don't have a right to vote?

And you preach democracy!

Albertaghost: So Islam was in violation of the Koran all those centuries as it took over half the known world? Wow.

And the 800 million Indians killed ini the middle ages were done by Islam in the name of peace.

Oh, by the way, 800 million by the sword is one hell of a lot more than 68,000 by a nuclear bomb.

""Muslim conquest in South Asia mainly took place from the 13th to the 16th centuries, though earlier Muslim conquests made limited inroads into the region, beginning during the period of the ascendancy of the Rajput Kingdoms in North India, from the 7th century onwards. Some historians contest it as the bloodiest chapter in Human history""

mnowsa: ughhh...you have done it again, albert! So,where does exactly your wikipedia link says "800" millions? oops..it says 80 millions (not 800 millions)! So..was it an 'intentional mistake' albert! Anway, the link says, and i will quote from your same wikipedia link " An estimate of the number of people killed, based on the Muslim chronicles and demographic calculations, was done by K.S. Lal in his book Growth of Muslim Population in Medieval India, who claimed that between 1000 CE and 1500 CE, the population of Hindus decreased by 80 million"

the funny part is at the end of the quote (from your wikipedia link albert) that i mentioned above writes "1][unreliable source?]" (intentional mistake again, albert!?..hahahaha), which means the data may have been gathered from UNRELIABLE SOURCE

Anywho, your wikipedia link continues like this (which you very cleverly avoided mentioning again), and i will quote again: His work has come under criticism by historians such as Simon Digby (School of Oriental and African Studies) and Irfan Habib for its agenda and lack of accurate data in pre-census times.

So, what is the criticism all about? it can be found in your same wikipedial link, albert. But, very predictably, you completely forgot(!) to mention about the criticism again! poor albert. Anyway, if you click on the text link " Growth of Muslim Population in Medieval India" in your wikipedia link under the paragraph "coversion controversy", you will see how the work of Mr. Lal (from who you got your data on how many muslims were killed) has been "discredited". Here is what it says for your information albert: K.S. Lal's study of the demographic situation in medieval India was also criticized. Simon Digby criticized the book in a review in "Bulletin of the School of Oriental and African Studies":
"The author is known for his detailed studies of the Khalji dynasty and of the fifteenth-century Delhi Sultanate. He is well versed in the sources of medieval North Indian history. In the present study he has assembled almost all the conceivably relevant data and for this reason it will remain of value as a compendium of references. Yet the unknown variables are so great and the quality of the data yielded by our sources so poor that almost any detailed general estimates of population based upon them must appear wilful, if not fantastic."

Historian Irfan Habib criticized the book in his "Economic History of the Delhi Sultanate - An Essay in Interpretation" (Habib 1978). K.S. Lal wrote a reply to Irfan Habib's criticism in 1979 (Lal 1979) and in 1999 (Lal 1999).

So, what's the point of putting "controversial" data, albert? Should we assume that your hatred for muslims/islam and your 'desperate attempt' to justify the killing of many innocent people by those thugs and criminals (the fanatic conservative war hawks)in your "league" has absolutely made you blind? i absolutely feel sorry for you, dude.

mnowsa: ughhh...you have done it again, albert! So,where does exactly your wikipedia link says "800" millions? oops..it says 80 millions (not 800 millions)! So..was it an 'intentional mistake' albert! Anway, the link says, and i will quote from your same wikipedia link " An estimate of the number of people killed, based on the Muslim chronicles and demographic calculations, was done by K.S. Lal in his book Growth of Muslim Population in Medieval India, who claimed that between 1000 CE and 1500 CE, the population of Hindus decreased by 80 million"

the funny part is at the end of the quote (from your wikipedia link albert) that i mentioned above writes "1][unreliable source?]" (intentional mistake again, albert!?..hahahaha), which means the data may have been gathered from UNRELIABLE SOURCE

Anywho, your wikipedia link continues like this (which you very cleverly avoided mentioning again), and i will quote again: His work has come under criticism by historians such as Simon Digby (School of Oriental and African Studies) and Irfan Habib for its agenda and lack of accurate data in pre-census times.

So, what is the criticism all about? it can be found in your same wikipedial link, albert. But, very predictably, you completely forgot(!) to mention about the criticism again! poor albert. Anyway, if you click on the text link " Growth of Muslim Population in Medieval India" in your wikipedia link under the paragraph "coversion controversy", you will see how the work of Mr. Lal (from who you got your data on how many muslims were killed) has been "discredited". Here is what it says for your information albert: K.S. Lal's study of the demographic situation in medieval India was also criticized. Simon Digby criticized the book in a review in "Bulletin of the School of Oriental and African Studies":
"The author is known for his detailed studies of the Khalji dynasty and of the fifteenth-century Delhi Sultanate. He is well versed in the sources of medieval North Indian history. In the present study he has assembled almost all the conceivably relevant data and for this reason it will remain of value as a compendium of references. Yet the unknown variables are so great and the quality of the data yielded by our sources so poor that almost any detailed general estimates of population based upon them must appear wilful, if not fantastic."

Historian Irfan Habib criticized the book in his "Economic History of the Delhi Sultanate - An Essay in Interpretation" (Habib 1978). K.S. Lal wrote a reply to Irfan Habib's criticism in 1979 (Lal 1979) and in 1999 (Lal 1999).

So, what's the point of putting "controversial" data, albert? Should we assume that your hatred for muslims/islam and your 'desperate attempt' to justify the killing of many innocent people by those thugs and criminals (the fanatic conservative war hawks)in your "league" has absolutely made you blind? i absolutely feel sorry for you, dude.

Conrad73: Haven't read your Koran a while,have you?

History not your strong point either?

mnowsa: gosh....it doesn't have to be so obvious, conny! i know you seldom read anything what your "opponents" ever writes but at least take a minute, pretending to reading it, before you post your opinion!

Conrad73: funny Countries like yours constantly feel the needf to lecture the West on Human Rights and Democracy!

mnowsa: since you mentioned about 'countries', well..my country never creates any 'report' approved by our CID and parliament and lecture about human rights and democracy like the USA goverment and the west do while doing exactly opposit what they 'preach' around the globe, conrad. i have a terrible distaste for lecturing