Human Nature vs Human Nature ( Archived) (69)

May 13, 2012 11:57 AM CST Human Nature vs Human Nature
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
It's human nature to internalize and then externalize one's relations with other people. Afterall , everything happens in your head really. Since this is a dating site, let's focus on how one does this with their gender preferred relations.

Humans (and I would suggest most if not all) are given to any number of socially stigmatized behaviors from jealousy to lying, from control to manipulation and many other frowned upon but humanly innate manifestations.

I also think that humans are inclined to believe or at least act in ways that we tend to shun and eschew these behaviors to the point of accusing others, punishing others, and in doing so hope to reach some sort of perfection?? dunno

Do you think our expectations of others are too lofty, even insane given how pervasively human it is to show imperfection, or is that too innately human and what function do these expectations serve in bettering humanity?

Perfection seems impossible, (for most of us giggle) so ...Is there a better resolution to our human foibles in compassion first, or would that too, be too lofty of an expectation for us in relating to our gender preferred partners.

Do we continue to battle against ourselves as humans vs human or is there a better way?

confused
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May 13, 2012 12:41 PM CST Human Nature vs Human Nature
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Yes...
to both questions ...giggle
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May 13, 2012 12:44 PM CST Human Nature vs Human Nature
englishelegance
englisheleganceenglisheleganceBirmingham, West Midlands, England UK76 Threads 1 Polls 3,025 Posts
BB_snickers: It's human nature to internalize and then externalize one's relations with other people. Afterall , everything happens in your head really. Since this is a dating site, let's focus on how one does this with their gender preferred relations.

Humans (and I would suggest most if not all) are given to any number of socially stigmatized behaviors from jealousy to lying, from control to manipulation and many other frowned upon but humanly innate manifestations.

I also think that humans are inclined to believe or at least act in ways that we tend to shun and eschew these behaviors to the point of accusing others, punishing others, and in doing so hope to reach some sort of perfection??

Do you think our expectations of others are too lofty, even insane given how pervasively human it is to show imperfection, or is that too innately human and what function do these expectations serve in bettering humanity?

Perfection seems impossible, (for most of us ) so ...Is there a better resolution to our human foibles in compassion first, or would that too, be too lofty of an expectation for us in relating to our gender preferred partners.

Do we continue to battle against ourselves as humans vs human or is there a better way?


What a totally negative way of thinking you have confused
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May 13, 2012 12:49 PM CST Human Nature vs Human Nature
almera03
almera03almera03portsmouth, Hampshire, England UK11 Threads 3,913 Posts
Was that the short or the long version, way too much to read on a Sunday....
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May 13, 2012 12:50 PM CST Human Nature vs Human Nature
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Boban1: Yes...
to both questions ...



Are you sure???





hmmm
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May 13, 2012 12:54 PM CST Human Nature vs Human Nature
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
lifeisadream: Are you sure???

well you could summarize his novel to a basic question ,which was given at the end of the OP "Do we continue to battle against ourselves as humans vs human or is there a better way?"
and in my opinion " yes" was the best answer...laugh
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May 13, 2012 12:59 PM CST Human Nature vs Human Nature
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Boban1: well you could summarize his novel to a basic question ,which was given at the end of the OP "Do we continue to battle against ourselves as humans vs human or is there a better way?"
and in my opinion " yes" was the best answer...laugh



Yes, there is a battle inside ourselves.
Yes, there is a better way.


And what that way would be?


Not battling?




laugh
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May 13, 2012 2:24 PM CST Human Nature vs Human Nature
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
englishelegance: What a totally negative way of thinking you have



No I don't flex





rolling on the floor laughing
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May 13, 2012 2:27 PM CST Human Nature vs Human Nature
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
Boban1: well you could summarize his novel to a basic question ,which was given at the end of the OP "Do we continue to battle against ourselves as humans vs human or is there a better way?"
and in my opinion " yes" was the best answer...



Want a snickers? grin
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May 13, 2012 2:28 PM CST Human Nature vs Human Nature
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
lifeisadream: Yes, there is a battle inside ourselves.
Yes, there is a better way.And what that way would be?Not battling?



A battle within that becomes the external battle with others. thumbs up


Boban usually has a better way. grin
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May 13, 2012 2:29 PM CST Human Nature vs Human Nature
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
BB_snickers: How did I know you'd be on the side of self first EW?


I think that work starts with self. Change self = different interaction with others. Change self = different actions/reactions to/from others.

BB_snickers: Do you think it posible to get everyone in lock step with you - or just those important to you - or does it matter to you either way?


I don´t understand your question BB. Would you clarify please.
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May 13, 2012 2:33 PM CST Human Nature vs Human Nature
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
BB_snickers: Want a snickers?

are you out of twix...???cheers
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May 13, 2012 2:36 PM CST Human Nature vs Human Nature
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
EagleWoman: I think that work starts with self. Change self = different interaction with others. Change self = different actions/reactions to/from others.


wave

I agree, assuming we're on the same page as far as compassion self directed, results in those different and perhaps better reactions, though not always. wine Regardless of other's reactions, It still remains important to self to remain in that state of mind yes?

EagleWoman:
I don´t understand your question BB. Would you clarify please.


Under the assumption that your methodology works, (and I don't disagree) do you think that this can change others around you enough to get them 'behaving' in more compassionate ways. Would that be important to you, especially with a partner but on a larger scale as well.

smile
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May 13, 2012 2:37 PM CST Human Nature vs Human Nature
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
Boban1: are you out of twix...???



And questions, since I used up about 8 of those. rolling on the floor laughing


wave
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May 13, 2012 2:48 PM CST Human Nature vs Human Nature
trueheart1941
trueheart1941trueheart1941brentwood essex, Essex, England UK27 Threads 8,005 Posts
.....I suppose someone suffering with.....*schizophenia*....has,s the best of both worlds......withour having to worry about it.......rolling on the floor laughing grin grin
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May 13, 2012 2:50 PM CST Human Nature vs Human Nature
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
BB_snickers: I agree, assuming we're on the same page as far as compassion self directed, results in those different and perhaps better reactions, though not always. Regardless of other's reactions, It still remains important to self to remain in that state of mind yes?
Under the assumption that your methodology works, (and I don't disagree) do you think that this can change others around you enough to get them 'behaving' in more compassionate ways. Would that be important to you, especially with a partner but on a larger scale as well.

Deep down, people hate changes, and they struggle and resist ...
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May 13, 2012 2:51 PM CST Human Nature vs Human Nature
englishelegance
englisheleganceenglisheleganceBirmingham, West Midlands, England UK76 Threads 1 Polls 3,025 Posts
BB_snickers: No I don't


Oh but you do...Each of us are unique in our way of thinking and perceiving others, you cant possibly know any outcome to any given situation between two people. All situations are different...get real!
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May 13, 2012 2:54 PM CST Human Nature vs Human Nature
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
trueheart1941: .....I suppose someone suffering with.....*schizophenia*....has,s the best of both worlds......withour having to worry about it.......



confused If they're not worried about it true, how could they be suffering .. grin


tongue cheers
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May 13, 2012 2:57 PM CST Human Nature vs Human Nature
trueheart1941
trueheart1941trueheart1941brentwood essex, Essex, England UK27 Threads 8,005 Posts
englishelegance: Oh but you do...Each of us are unique in our way of thinking and perceiving others, you cant possibly know any outcome to any given situation between two people. All situations are different...get real!
hi....thats true. take yesterday....my dog pissed up my leg.....so i pissed up his......so. who was right or wrong.......rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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May 13, 2012 2:58 PM CST Human Nature vs Human Nature
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
englishelegance: Oh but you do...Each of us are unique in our way of thinking and perceiving others, you cant possibly know any outcome to any given situation between two people. All situations are different...get real!



confused not my battle smile
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