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May 29, 2012 4:44 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
resist you? Obviously not, because you're not interested in forcing yourself on others.

But - do you want a man or a woman who want you? to want you, because you fit or approximate to their shopping list over the qualities necessary or adequate of being a man or a woman in their eyes. But are you their shopping list? is that even possible? if not, will not that relationship as well become a relationship with resistance?

Will you ever see the truth in a relationship with resistance?
Can there be any real honesty without the truth? or relationship without honesty? trust without honesty? I am talking about trust, not thrust, that we can all do a Friday night, even at the toilet in the pub grin
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May 29, 2012 4:53 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
Jillll
JillllJillllRancho Cucamonga, California USA3 Threads 1 Polls 1,390 Posts
Of course I want to be with someone who wants me. I want to be in a relationship where the feelings are mutual and they want the same things out of life that I do.
And yes, I need honesty so that there can be trust.
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May 29, 2012 4:56 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
almera03
almera03almera03portsmouth, Hampshire, England UK11 Threads 3,913 Posts
If I fancy her but she doesnt fancy me, there wont be a relationship, end of. so no resistence no truth, no honesty, nothing cause no relationship.........

She is going to run if I persist in dating her, thats stalking dunno
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May 29, 2012 5:03 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
Jillll: Of course I want to be with someone who wants me. I want to be in a relationship where the feelings are mutual and they want the same things out of life that I do.
And yes, I need honesty so that there can be trust.


But for what reason? :)

This weekend I went to the nearby city, and noticed that its river had its beach side full of those girls who slips perfectly into a small bikini, and there were a lot of them.

Naturally, after the initial visual, there were contact, and a following sensation, not far away from the flower of sensations. Enough said, however, as I turned and looked away, it was gone, except for a small residue of the visual and the sensation, which by the way is accumulative and adds to what later on would end up on my shopping list.

"Manly" shopping list, but hey, are there any differences to the objects or qualities on the list? just by the fact that they arise like this, and is another cause of resistance, as things inevitably change.
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May 29, 2012 5:05 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
olaix: resist you? Obviously not, because you're not interested in forcing yourself on others.

But - do you want a man or a woman who want you? to want you, because you fit or approximate to their shopping list over the qualities necessary or adequate of being a man or a woman in their eyes. But are you their shopping list? is that even possible? if not, will not that relationship as well become a relationship with resistance?

Will you ever see the truth in a relationship with resistance?
Can there be any real honesty without the truth? or relationship without honesty? trust without honesty? I am talking about trust, not thrust, that we can all do a Friday night, even at the toilet in the pub


I would say that in a relationship where resistence exists, there will be limited harmony. Most interactions will be the result of "reaction" rather than honesty with self and SO.

IMO
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May 29, 2012 5:11 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
trueheart1941
trueheart1941trueheart1941brentwood essex, Essex, England UK27 Threads 8,005 Posts
almera03: If I fancy her but she doesnt fancy me, there wont be a relationship, end of. so no resistence no truth, no honesty, nothing cause no relationship.........

She is going to run if I persist in dating her, thats stalking
I fail to see ....why...they resist your charms.......neanderthal.man...........rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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May 29, 2012 5:13 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
EagleWoman: I would say that in a relationship where resistence exists, there will be limited harmony. Most interactions will be the result of "reaction" rather than honesty with self and SO.

IMO


Exactly. How to get rid of it then?
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May 29, 2012 5:23 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
olaix: Exactly. How to get rid of it then?


Resistence on the emotional level (just to clarify) is linked to controle issues which usually stem from fear of making oneself vulnerable, or feeling vulnerable or appearing vulnerable.

If you´re self-assured enough (not arrogant) IE trust yourself, the resistence disappears
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May 29, 2012 5:23 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
olaix: Exactly. How to get rid of it then?


Resistence on the emotional level (just to clarify) is linked to controle issues which usually stem from fear of making oneself vulnerable, or feeling vulnerable or appearing vulnerable.

If you´re self-assured enough (not arrogant) IE trust yourself, the resistence disappears
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May 29, 2012 5:24 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
almera03
almera03almera03portsmouth, Hampshire, England UK11 Threads 3,913 Posts
olaix: Maybe you can make a "my opinion" compilation thread
So no denial......interesting
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May 29, 2012 5:29 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
EagleWoman: Resistence on the emotional level (just to clarify) is linked to controle issues which usually stem from fear of making oneself vulnerable, or feeling vulnerable or appearing vulnerable.

If you´re self-assured enough (not arrogant) IE trust yourself, the resistence disappears




Agree. But then what about other kinds of fear? fear of old age, fear of illness, fear of death? fear of loss of love? if you want to get rid of the reaction, would you then not need to lose the cause that leads to the effect, which then again leads to the reaction? so again, how to get rid of it :)
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May 29, 2012 5:33 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
olaix: Agree. But then what about other kinds of fear? fear of old age, fear of illness, fear of death? fear of loss of love? if you want to get rid of the reaction, would you then not need to lose the cause that leads to the effect, which then again leads to the reaction? so again, how to get rid of it :)


Only way to get rid of fear is to stare "it" in the face unflichingly. It usually looks away before you do.

In other words, aknowledge, peel away the layers till it disappears.
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May 29, 2012 5:34 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
almera03: If I fancy her but she doesnt fancy me, there wont be a relationship, end of. so no resistence no truth, no honesty, nothing cause no relationship.........

She is going to run if I persist in dating her, thats stalking


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May 29, 2012 5:34 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
EagleWoman: Only way to get rid of fear is to stare "it" in the face unflichingly. It usually looks away before you do.

In other words, aknowledge, peel away the layers till it disappears.


Getting rid of resistance by resisting fear?
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May 29, 2012 5:36 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
almera03: So no denial......interesting


Why would I? its not my opinion, its yours, so I'm not bothered by it, you are wink
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May 29, 2012 5:36 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
olaix: Getting rid of resistance by resisting fear?


Nope!!

What I discribed is not resisting fear. It´s shooting it into smitherings so it doesn´t exist.
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May 29, 2012 5:40 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
almera03
almera03almera03portsmouth, Hampshire, England UK11 Threads 3,913 Posts
olaix: Why would I? its not my opinion, its yours, so I'm not bothered by it, you are
and that was deflection.....

a subtle ploy.........
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May 29, 2012 5:41 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
EagleWoman: Nope!!

What I discribed is not resisting fear. It´s shooting it into smitherings so it doesn´t exist.


Another way to do it is to stop being fearfull of your fears and start observing them instead ... that already gets rid of some resistence
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May 29, 2012 5:45 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
EagleWoman: Nope!!

What I discribed is not resisting fear. It´s shooting it into smitherings so it doesn´t exist.


Elaborate please
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May 29, 2012 5:46 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
EagleWoman: Another way to do it is to stop being fearfull of your fears and start observing them instead ... that already gets rid of some resistence


Agree. It is especially noticeable in meditation. In successful meditation, there is no resistance.
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