Cancer (37)

Jun 14, 2012 5:18 AM CST Cancer
Theoneucanthate: If u have a chance of SURVIVAL


survival but for how long? for most people it comes back like a friends father of mine he keeps getting secondaries all over his body in nearly every organ..he will eventually die because its everywhere no amount of fighting attitude/chemotherapy or other drugs will cure thatireland
Jun 14, 2012 5:19 AM CST Cancer
KNenagh
KNenaghKNenaghAachen, Kilkenny Ireland12 Threads 11,160 Posts
jimbo79: but any chemo just delays it right? so by taking it your prolonging your own and your families suffering, i have a child there is no way i would have him see me like that

This is something everyone had to decide themselves. But I think especially if you have a child you want to try to be there as long as possible. My friend’s father died when he was 45, 9 kids... He was given 6 month and he nearly lived one and a half year, in the end when the pain got unbearable they put him on a morphine drip, he died 2 days after that without gaining consciousness, but he just did everything to spend as much time as possible with his family.

And as I said in my father’s case, the oncologist said without chemo to suppress it the pain would have been unbearable.

I think we all can only judge something like that when we're in this situation. Unfortunately I know more about this than I ever wanted to know...
Jun 14, 2012 5:19 AM CST Cancer
Theoneucanthate: so if ur in agony ur gonna take it :)

Yeah. or Morphine. On a pump.
Jun 14, 2012 5:20 AM CST Cancer
Theoneucanthate: so if ur in agony ur gonna take it :)


yeah oxycontin for pain relief...you'd still die..understand that?ireland
Jun 14, 2012 5:23 AM CST Cancer
Theoneucanthate: the women I'm talking about HAD a chance of survival and refused treatment, u understand that because I don't

Are you 100% sure about that?
Jun 14, 2012 5:24 AM CST Cancer
fifitheminx
fifitheminxfifitheminxDublin, Ireland35 Threads 4,039 Posts
Theoneucanthate: the women I'm talking about HAD a chance of survival and refused treatment, u understand that because I don't


thats hearsay..u havent seen her doc reports..

ur better off backing down on this one uno..there are people here with massive amounts of experience with cancer and yes ur curious nature does make u ask the questions..

but emotionally u could be hurting someone reading this right now...and i dont think u really want to do that
Jun 14, 2012 5:25 AM CST Cancer
jimbo79
jimbo79jimbo79carlow, Carlow Ireland85 Threads 8 Polls 4,259 Posts
fifitheminx: thats hearsay..u havent seen her doc reports..

ur better off backing down on this one uno..there are people here with massive amounts of experience with cancer and yes ur curious nature does make u ask the questions..

but emotionally u could be hurting someone reading this right now...and i dont think u really want to do that
thumbs up

yeah drop it, it's very close to a lot of people here
Jun 14, 2012 5:25 AM CST Cancer
Theoneucanthate: the women I'm talking about HAD a chance of survival and refused treatment, u understand that because I don't


I doubt that very much..makes no sense at all..my guess is a woman local to you died of cancer and you're inventing some fantasy story about her refusing treatmentireland
Jun 14, 2012 5:26 AM CST Cancer
jimbo79
jimbo79jimbo79carlow, Carlow Ireland85 Threads 8 Polls 4,259 Posts
KNenagh: This is something everyone had to decide themselves. But I think especially if you have a child you want to try to be there as long as possible. My friend’s father died when he was 45, 9 kids... He was given 6 month and he nearly lived one and a half year, in the end when the pain got unbearable they put him on a morphine drip, he died 2 days after that without gaining consciousness, but he just did everything to spend as much time as possible with his family.

And as I said in my father’s case, the oncologist said without chemo to suppress it the pain would have been unbearable.

I think we all can only judge something like that when we're in this situation. Unfortunately I know more about this than I ever wanted to know...


i know nothing about it, thankfully and hopefully i keep it that way
Jun 14, 2012 5:28 AM CST Cancer
Theoneucanthate
TheoneucanthateTheoneucanthateDublin, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 1,729 Posts
fifitheminx: thats hearsay..u havent seen her doc reports..

ur better off backing down on this one uno..there are people here with massive amounts of experience with cancer and yes ur curious nature does make u ask the questions..

but emotionally u could be hurting someone reading this right now...and i dont think u really want to do that
I no the women and her family
Jun 14, 2012 5:37 AM CST Cancer
Taureanmale
TaureanmaleTaureanmaleRoscommon, Ireland86 Threads 5 Polls 1,672 Posts
To the op.....what if any of that family or someone who knows either of ye can link this back to the deceased RIP.... Let it go
Jun 14, 2012 5:38 AM CST Cancer
halfavag
halfavaghalfavagdublin, Dublin Ireland218 Posts
a friend of mine has lung cancer. at the moment hes recieving more chemo. if it shrinks his tumours he might get 12 months.hes 51 years of age.hes on an aggressive chemo thats making him so sick.if it doesnt work he has few weeks left.i think if it ever happened to me,after watching wat hes suffering and knowing id only get a few months out of it id refuse treatment and try and enjoy wat time i had left.
Jun 14, 2012 5:38 AM CST Cancer
Theoneucanthate
TheoneucanthateTheoneucanthateDublin, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 1,729 Posts
Taureanmale: To the op.....what if any of that family or someone who knows either of ye can link this back to the deceased RIP.... Let it go
Ye RIP!
Jun 14, 2012 5:39 AM CST Cancer
Theoneucanthate
TheoneucanthateTheoneucanthateDublin, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 1,729 Posts
halfavag: a friend of mine has lung cancer. at the moment hes recieving more chemo. if it shrinks his tumours he might get 12 months.hes 51 years of age.hes on an aggressive chemo thats making him so sick.if it doesnt work he has few weeks left.i think if it ever happened to me,after watching wat hes suffering and knowing id only get a few months out of it id refuse treatment and try and enjoy wat time i had left.
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Jun 14, 2012 7:07 AM CST Cancer
MermaidDreams
MermaidDreamsMermaidDreamsOffaly, Ireland1 Threads 1 Polls 800 Posts
Theoneucanthate: A women recently died of cancer locally :). If you in the morning were diagnosed with cancer would you have treatment or a negative attitude and say "this is it I'm screwed". The women I'm on about refused treatment. Now shes dead. Crazy if u ask me


Can't imagine that I wouldn't not put up a fight even if I were told that treatment would prove futile. Poor woman, R.I.P.
Jun 14, 2012 7:14 AM CST Cancer
Bucksfizz
BucksfizzBucksfizzWexford, Ireland30 Posts
jimbo79: it would depend, if my chance of survival was low i would not have treatment, if i had a decent prospect of recovery i would


thumbs up Have to say i'd be the same! My dad had cancer but he said at his age it was time to go , so asked them to give the treatment to someone that needed it more than him ! heart wings
Jun 14, 2012 7:28 AM CST Cancer
DaveD20
DaveD20DaveD20Dublin, Ireland4 Threads 176 Posts
I just read through this thread. Two things strike me before I post a comment I don't know the full details of the woman's case and do not have close hand expierence on myself or anyone close having cancer. Any knowledge I have has been gleaned through TV, media or passing conversations. I would presume that quality of life would be an issue, does the treatment cure you or extend your life - will that extension of life be lived in excrutiating misery for you and your family?. Pain relief great but do you want to be so zonked you are unable to communicate with your family in the room. I feel myself drifting into the moral complexity that is essence of life, quality of life, euthanasia that have personal, religious, spiritual and legal factors but that is probably worthy of another thread someday.
Just to agree and reemphasis what other contributors have said, checking and early detection often increases survival chances.
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