Belief is scientifically proven (42)
Tibor13Baden, Ontario Canada2 Threads 103 PostsPlacebo effect: I use Aspirin for my headache, I go to a doctor he gives me a sugar pill and tells me it is "Aspirin" I take it and my headache goes away.
http://www.cancer.org/Treatment/TreatmentsandSideEffects/TreatmentTypes/placebo-effect
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Dadude62: Yesterday it was probable that there would be tomorrow,, it became a fact today.
Sounds reasonable, but we were talking about tomorrow, not yesterday that became today. But yesterday does not exist either, what exist is now. Not even this morning exist, nor tomorrow morning.
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Nessa7: All I can say to that is you have a better chance falling pregnant
Ok, I can go along with that. Now I am waiting in excitement
I heard a story about a unreasonable pregnancy 2012 years ago, maybe it is true, maybe not, maybe we will find out. Will report any unusual events Don't get fooled by other guys, they're not pregnant, they have eaten a lot of icecream.------ This thread is Archived ------
You know the very people that say you shouldn't enforce beliefs on others,enforce "that belief" on you.Lol. If the belief "to each his own" were true then every veiw would be equally true since,truth would be relative to the individual.Do you see something wrong with that belief?
Nessa7: Well I am not religious ...
But I do have my beliefs on the "soul"
I don't enforce my beliefs onto others
And I don't appreciate them enforcing theirs onto me
To each their own
But I do have my beliefs on the "soul"
I don't enforce my beliefs onto others
And I don't appreciate them enforcing theirs onto me
To each their own
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olaix: Sounds reasonable, but we were talking about tomorrow, not yesterday that became today. But yesterday does not exist either, what exist is now. Not even this morning exist, nor tomorrow morning.
That's correct, we have only the moment,,,,. Yesterday did exist , we don't know if tomorrow will,,, In all probability it will. One could say that "tomorrow" is a "belief", but as I said, based on a lot more facts then religious belief,,,,
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serendipity615: You know the very people that say you shouldn't enforce beliefs on others,enforce "that belief" on you.Lol. If the belief "to each his own" were true then every veiw would be equally true since,truth would be relative to the individual.Do you see something wrong with that belief?
There is an argument that there is no such thing as "truth" other then what we believe it to be. Truth is relative to the individual. If that were true this world would be utter chaos. If everyone were to see something different then everyone else there would be no such thing as communication or any agreement on anything,,,.
As far as religious beliefs go yes one is as valid as another,,,,. All of them BS,,,,
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tomcatwarne: From My experience of the Scandinavian countries, belief is sometimes mixed up with reality, so your reality becomes your belief.
really? It hasn't got anything to do with the long periods of darkness does it?
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olaix: via placebo :)
Belief is belief no matter what belief it is, that is what makes it a belief in the first place - and since placebo explains the process and effect of belief, then what do you believe in?
You have any good religions?
Belief is belief no matter what belief it is, that is what makes it a belief in the first place - and since placebo explains the process and effect of belief, then what do you believe in?
You have any good religions?
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Hope and Faith.
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Does politics count as a belief system?
Are people that follow political factions any different to religious cultists, psychologically speaking?
Does the fact that political doctrine is narrower, in both content and interpretation, than religious scripture make politics inherently more absolute and fanatical than religion?
Are people that follow political factions any different to religious cultists, psychologically speaking?
Does the fact that political doctrine is narrower, in both content and interpretation, than religious scripture make politics inherently more absolute and fanatical than religion?
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I would say that what you're describing as the "placebo effect" is in fact the meaning of life to all of Mankind that has posed the question what is the meaning of life? This placebo effect is a result of all the great myths we believe, in and of society, without which the function of society would not be possible.
Why, if it wasn't for belief and myths, and if instead we were to take rationalism to its logical extreme, then all of Mankind would recognise that we are just atoms spinning in space and give up on all Human progress and achievement altogether.
Why, if it wasn't for belief and myths, and if instead we were to take rationalism to its logical extreme, then all of Mankind would recognise that we are just atoms spinning in space and give up on all Human progress and achievement altogether.
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hiya olaix 
i believe we are our intentions
i believe we are our intentions
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Rumple4skin: I would say that what you're describing as the "placebo effect" is in fact the meaning of life to all of Mankind that has posed the question what is the meaning of life? This placebo effect is a result of all the great myths we believe, in and of society, without which the function of society would not be possible.
Why, if it wasn't for belief and myths, and if instead we were to take rationalism to its logical extreme, then all of Mankind would recognise that we are just atoms spinning in space and give up on all Human progress and achievement altogether.
Why, if it wasn't for belief and myths, and if instead we were to take rationalism to its logical extreme, then all of Mankind would recognise that we are just atoms spinning in space and give up on all Human progress and achievement altogether.
Rationalism and logic has it's limits,,. There is a "mystery" to our existence,, which Einstein thought to be "The source of all true art and science",,. That mystery is real,,
Belief and myth are not necessary,,,
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olaix: via placebo :)
Belief is belief no matter what belief it is, that is what makes it a belief in the first place - and since placebo explains the process and effect of belief, then what do you believe in?
You have any good religions?
Belief is belief no matter what belief it is, that is what makes it a belief in the first place - and since placebo explains the process and effect of belief, then what do you believe in?
You have any good religions?
Have no religion, but may be I would be better off if I had one, since it relieves anxiety and answers all your questions, so no uncertainty. Just makes life more easy for the believer.
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joyaepace: Have no religion, but may be I would be better off if I had one, since it relieves anxiety and answers all your questions, so no uncertainty. Just makes life more easy for the believer.
There's an answer to all answers. Try Jesus! God bless!
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Dadude62: There is an argument that there is no such thing as "truth" other then what we believe it to be. Truth is relative to the individual. If that were true this world would be utter chaos. If everyone were to see something different then everyone else there would be no such thing as communication or any agreement on anything,,,.
As far as religious beliefs go yes one is as valid as another,,,,. All of them BS,,,,
As far as religious beliefs go yes one is as valid as another,,,,. All of them BS,,,,
Truth is truth. Weather it be religious or non religious. If all religious truths were equally valid and all non sense,then you would have to discredit your own view on the same bases,since your making a truth claim about religion ,that all truth claims about religion are non sense.
One should not make an exception to truth,when it comes to religious beliefs. For truth is absolute.
God bless you!
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serendipity615: Truth is truth. Weather it be religious or non religious. If all religious truths were equally valid and all non sense,then you would have to discredit your own view on the same bases,since your making a truth claim about religion ,that all truth claims about religion are non sense.
One should not make an exception to truth,when it comes to religious beliefs. For truth is absolute.
God bless you!
except,Belief is Subjective,while Truth cannot be subjective!One should not make an exception to truth,when it comes to religious beliefs. For truth is absolute.
God bless you!
Otherwise any Belief would be TRUTH!
In your own words they are not!
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Conrad73: except,Belief is Subjective,while Truth cannot be subjective!
Otherwise any Belief would be TRUTH!
In your own words they are not!
Otherwise any Belief would be TRUTH!
In your own words they are not!
What you're proposing is Mysticism!
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joyaepace: Have no religion, but may be I would be better off if I had one, since it relieves anxiety and answers all your questions, so no uncertainty. Just makes life more easy for the believer.
Actually, religion in the sense of these organized sects (including the one in Rome), kills all your answers and tell you a story instead.
Not sure it is easier, because if you are promised an afterlife, you'd panic by the thought of doing something your leader have told you you'd lose your afterlife by doing
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