Killing is fun... ( Archived) (36)

Nov 18, 2012 5:10 PM CST Killing is fun...
Killing is fun or so it seems
Bombs guided by lazy hands from computer screens
With TV commentators glamorizing crime scenes
Killing must be fun, or so it seems

Killing is fun or so it seems
No longer do soldiers use bayonets while paralleling tank machines
Like eagles up high and way down below in whisper-quiet submarines
Killing is certainly fun, or so it seems

Killing is fun or so it seems
Children dying while parents holding heads of screams
Handsome college grads navigating drones and maneuvering F16s
Killing is now a simple video game, or so it seems!

Potarick professor
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Nov 18, 2012 7:35 PM CST Killing is fun...
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
potarick: Killing is fun or so it seems
Bombs guided by lazy hands from computer screens
With TV commentators glamorizing crime scenes
Killing must be fun, or so it seems

Killing is fun or so it seems
No longer do soldiers use bayonets while paralleling tank machines
Like eagles up high and way down below in whisper-quiet submarines
Killing is certainly fun, or so it seems

Killing is fun or so it seems
Children dying while parents holding heads of screams
Handsome college grads navigating drones and maneuvering F16s
Killing is now a simple video game, or so it seems!

Potarick


Why on earth do you think that it is fun or seems to be?confused
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Nov 18, 2012 7:38 PM CST Killing is fun...
Carl96190
Carl96190Carl96190Gold Coast, Queensland Australia5 Threads 857 Posts
Albertaghost: Why on earth do you think that it is fun or seems to be?


The author of the poem was saying the opposite, that war is not fun.

His point was that war by drone is a video game in which people really die. It becomes easier to kill when you are safe, dry, well rested and have a full stomach. It does not take any courage to press a button in a lethal video game.
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Nov 18, 2012 7:48 PM CST Killing is fun...
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Carl96190: The author of the poem was saying the opposite, that war is not fun.
His point was that war by drone is a video game in which people really die. It becomes easier to kill when you are safe, dry, well rested and have a full stomach. It does not take any courage to press a button in a lethal video game.


No, he said it was fun. My question remains, why does he believe others or anybody finds this fun?
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Nov 18, 2012 7:51 PM CST Killing is fun...
Carl96190
Carl96190Carl96190Gold Coast, Queensland Australia5 Threads 857 Posts
Albertaghost: No, he said it was fun. My question remains, why does he believe others or anybody finds this fun?

It is called irony. Look it up.
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Nov 18, 2012 7:52 PM CST Killing is fun...
Carl96190: The author of the poem was saying the opposite, that war is not fun.
His point was that war by drone is a video game in which people really die. It becomes easier to kill when you are safe, dry, well rested and have a full stomach. It does not take any courage to press a button in a lethal video game.


That was a good interpretation, Carl....thumbs up

~JOHN~
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Nov 18, 2012 7:53 PM CST Killing is fun...
WESTERNSTAR1
WESTERNSTAR1WESTERNSTAR1†_ °_†, Cork Ireland8 Threads 5 Polls 3,490 Posts
guys im trying to get hooked up here with something nice.these threads arent cutting home right now,send in a chopper.man down !
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Nov 18, 2012 8:20 PM CST Killing is fun...
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
I think someone has missed the point and no the OP is not saying that killing is fun.
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Nov 18, 2012 8:24 PM CST Killing is fun...
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Ccincy: I think someone has missed the point and no the OP is not saying that killing is fun.


Then spell it out for me please. If he is trying to say that because it is easy to kill the enemy that it is more likely they will be killed then that is true. Just as that has been true with all weapons technology from the manufacture of the sharpened spear through the bow all the way to submarine warfare and beyond.

Where one gets the idea that it is better to be killed by your enemy is beyond me.
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Nov 18, 2012 8:27 PM CST Killing is fun...
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Albertaghost: Then spell it out for me please. If he is trying to say that because it is easy to kill the enemy that it is more likely they will be killed then that is true. Just as that has been true with all weapons technology from the manufacture of the sharpened spear through the bow all the way to submarine warfare and beyond.

Where one gets the idea that it is better to be killed by your enemy is beyond me.



Sorry I'm not in the mood for having a debate with you.
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Nov 18, 2012 8:31 PM CST Killing is fun...
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Ccincy: Sorry I'm not in the mood for having a debate with you.


Not debating you. You said somebody missed the point, I took it to mean me and then stated that since his point was not what he said, I stated what I thought his errant point was and said why he was wrong. If you don't have the time to say what you believe is the true meaning then why say others don't?
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Nov 18, 2012 8:52 PM CST Killing is fun...
Mysst
MysstMysstSpringfield, Missouri USA8 Threads 1 Polls 181 Posts
Killing "a**hole" would be fun, but if they would just commit suicide i wouldn't have to waste my precious ammo on them ...crazy
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Nov 18, 2012 9:02 PM CST Killing is fun...
WESTERNSTAR1
WESTERNSTAR1WESTERNSTAR1†_ °_†, Cork Ireland8 Threads 5 Polls 3,490 Posts
Mysst: Killing "a**hole" would be fun, but if they would just commit suicide i wouldn't have to waste my precious ammo on them ...
thumbs up filter them out and so the rest of us can get on with chem~spray and what ever comes our way.nike just do it
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Nov 18, 2012 9:34 PM CST Killing is fun...
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Ccincy: I think someone has missed the point and no the OP is not saying that killing is fun.



I agree with you Cindy he has missed the whole point, a blind spot perhaps.
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Nov 18, 2012 9:34 PM CST Killing is fun...
Nikogas
NikogasNikogasMetro, Oregon USA46 Threads 5 Polls 4,037 Posts
Ccincy: I think someone has missed the point and no the OP is not saying that killing is fun.

Agreed. It reads as a poem that has a dark cast as people have become disconnected from the actual experience and shock of Killing. I did not write it but It does read that way to me, I am lead to believe that the poet is exposing the easibility of war and killing. In the multitude of games and tv shows "Killing" has become a pastime. If not for real than at least in practice.
sad flower
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Nov 18, 2012 9:46 PM CST Killing is fun...
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Carl96190: That was not what I said. Your yarmulke is on too tight.
I did not make any moral judgement on what the author wrote. I merely explain the irony upon which he was commenting.
You appear to be incapable of understanding that.
I am, though, disturbed by the cybergeeks who fight wars with a Nintendo joystick. I fear that they lack an appreciation of the consequences of their actions. Anyone who treats killing as a game, or as fun, even when it is the enemy who is dying, is seriously sick.
I am old fashioned enough to believe that wars should be fought between armies on open field. When you have to look a man in the eye as you kill him, that takes some honour and courage. To fiddle with a joystick and laught about it, that is cowardly and without honour.


Whomever said they were laughing about it Carl? Oh, the OP did, the guy who siad it was 'fun.'

As for seeing your enemy, go ahead, fight with a spear and a stick against those who use rifles and grenades. As Patton said,

“The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other guy die for his.”
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Nov 18, 2012 10:00 PM CST Killing is fun...
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Since my son is serving in the Army and has seen a lot of killing maybe I should copy and paste this poem and get his opinion.
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Nov 18, 2012 10:04 PM CST Killing is fun...
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Ccincy: Since my son is serving in the Army and has seen a lot of killing maybe I should copy and paste this poem and get his opinion.


Maybe. It would be interesting to see what a veteran of today has to say about it vs one who spent twenty years there.thumbs up
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Nov 18, 2012 10:05 PM CST Killing is fun...
Carl96190
Carl96190Carl96190Gold Coast, Queensland Australia5 Threads 857 Posts
'he won it'
Sheesh. I wish that we could go back and edit posts when we see errors.
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Nov 18, 2012 10:09 PM CST Killing is fun...
You have just shown us why higher learning is important
Carl96190 just gave you a golden lesson but yet you conveniently opted to remain ignorant!

Potarick professor

Albertaghost: No, he said it was fun. My question remains, why does he believe others or anybody finds this fun?
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