A somewhat controversial Organ Donation question (36)
pisceslady7: I have posted a poll on organ donation and the results are becoming interesting.
I would love some input on the question.......
'If you are NOT an organ donor, should you have the right to receive organs if you need them?'
I would love some input on the question.......
'If you are NOT an organ donor, should you have the right to receive organs if you need them?'
Good one!
The trouble is though: you can't really be an organ donor as long as you're still alive. And someone who needs a transplant would probably not make the best donor anyway for medical reasons.
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Susanne1: Good one!
The trouble is though: you can't really be an organ donor as long as you're still alive. And someone who needs a transplant would probably not make the best donor anyway for medical reasons.
The trouble is though: you can't really be an organ donor as long as you're still alive. And someone who needs a transplant would probably not make the best donor anyway for medical reasons.
Yes, you can make live organ donations. Its more effective with kidney donation, that cadaver donation on a number of levels.
Someone who needs a transplant make well still have viable organs after their death, such as corneas.
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pisceslady7: I have posted a poll on organ donation and the results are becoming interesting.
I would love some input on the question.......
'If you are NOT an organ donor, should you have the right to receive organs if you need them?'
I would love some input on the question.......
'If you are NOT an organ donor, should you have the right to receive organs if you need them?'
Yes.
The act of donating organs is different from the act of receiving them.
If you think its a moral issue in terms of selflessness, then selflessness would also apply to saving the lives of those who can't deal with, for whatever reason, donating themselves after their death.
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Susanne1: Good one!
The trouble is though: you can't really be an organ donor as long as you're still alive. And someone who needs a transplant would probably not make the best donor anyway for medical reasons.
The trouble is though: you can't really be an organ donor as long as you're still alive. And someone who needs a transplant would probably not make the best donor anyway for medical reasons.
Thank you for your reply.
People are often listed as donors many years before they need the service and in Australia you can have it on your Driver's license as well as be registered on a donor site.
I have medical issues but I am still a donor. My corneas at least should be of use.
I just wonder if their opinion would change if 'the shoe was on the other foot'
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pisceslady7: I have posted a poll on organ donation and the results are becoming interesting.
I would love some input on the question.......
'If you are NOT an organ donor, should you have the right to receive organs if you need them?'
I would love some input on the question.......
'If you are NOT an organ donor, should you have the right to receive organs if you need them?'
That's a good question. A few years ago a baseball manager who was an alcoholic received a liver transplant. After the surgery he continued to drink and tried to get another liver and he was actually put on the list AGAIN. He died before he had the chance to get the second liver.
I think in situations like that the person doesn't deserve the right to a second transplant if they have abused their body again when so many people need a transplant.
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pisceslady7: I have posted a poll on organ donation and the results are becoming interesting.
I would love some input on the question.......
'If you are NOT an organ donor, should you have the right to receive organs if you need them?'
I would love some input on the question.......
'If you are NOT an organ donor, should you have the right to receive organs if you need them?'
Interesting twist to the question - is is somewhat of a judgement call? to suggest that if you are not a good person and an organ donor - you don't have the right to receive the gift from another? Like it is a members only club - if you are too selfish to give your cannot receive?
I know you are not thinking like that - however, just playing devil's advocate....
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jac379: Yes.
The act of donating organs is different from the act of receiving them.
If you think its a moral issue in terms of selflessness, then selflessness would also apply to saving the lives of those who can't deal with, for whatever reason, donating themselves after their death.
The act of donating organs is different from the act of receiving them.
If you think its a moral issue in terms of selflessness, then selflessness would also apply to saving the lives of those who can't deal with, for whatever reason, donating themselves after their death.
Thank you jac for your considered reply. An interesting comment
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Whether they're an organ donor or not they should be allowed to receive an needed organ.
Being an organ donor or not to be is obviously done by choice anyway.
Being an organ donor or not to be is obviously done by choice anyway.
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JeanKimberley: Interesting twist to the question - is is somewhat of a judgement call? to suggest that if you are not a good person and an organ donor - you don't have the right to receive the gift from another? Like it is a members only club - if you are too selfish to give your cannot receive?
I know you are not thinking like that - however, just playing devil's advocate....
I know you are not thinking like that - however, just playing devil's advocate....
Jean...Devil's Advocates are always welcome. It makes me think again on my feelings about the matter
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pisceslady7: Thank you for your reply.
People are often listed as donors many years before they need the service and in Australia you can have it on your Driver's license as well as be registered on a donor site.
I have medical issues but I am still a donor. My corneas at least should be of use.
I just wonder if their opinion would change if 'the shoe was on the other foot'
People are often listed as donors many years before they need the service and in Australia you can have it on your Driver's license as well as be registered on a donor site.
I have medical issues but I am still a donor. My corneas at least should be of use.
I just wonder if their opinion would change if 'the shoe was on the other foot'
Oh, you mean people ought to have registered as possible donors years before they need a transplant? Hm, I don't know - that would be a very harsh policy.
I think it would be best if organ donation was mandatory and people could only opt for very few and specific reasons.
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Susanne1: Oh, you mean people ought to have registered as possible donors years before they need a transplant? Hm, I don't know - that would be a very harsh policy.
I think it would be best if organ donation was mandatory and people could only opt for very few and specific reasons.
I think it would be best if organ donation was mandatory and people could only opt for very few and specific reasons.
For society as a whole mandatory with an opt-out clause might be the best way to go. However in America the individual is much more in control of themselves than a governmental policy - and I can see the religious right getting into a tizzy over this.... they do on everything else.
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If a person receives an organ transplant should they be able to get the same organ again if they abused the first transplant?
A few years ago a baseball manager who was an alcoholic received a liver transplant. After the surgery he continued to drink and tried to get another liver and he was actually put on the list AGAIN. He died before he had the chance to get the second liver.
I think in situations like that the person doesn't deserve the right to a second transplant if they have abused their body again when so many people need a transplant.
A few years ago a baseball manager who was an alcoholic received a liver transplant. After the surgery he continued to drink and tried to get another liver and he was actually put on the list AGAIN. He died before he had the chance to get the second liver.
I think in situations like that the person doesn't deserve the right to a second transplant if they have abused their body again when so many people need a transplant.
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montemonte: If a person receives an organ transplant should they be able to get the same organ again if they abused the first transplant?
A few years ago a baseball manager who was an alcoholic received a liver transplant. After the surgery he continued to drink and tried to get another liver and he was actually put on the list AGAIN. He died before he had the chance to get the second liver.I think in situations like that the person doesn't deserve the right to a second transplant if they have abused their body again when so many people need a transplant.
A few years ago a baseball manager who was an alcoholic received a liver transplant. After the surgery he continued to drink and tried to get another liver and he was actually put on the list AGAIN. He died before he had the chance to get the second liver.I think in situations like that the person doesn't deserve the right to a second transplant if they have abused their body again when so many people need a transplant.
I remember the case - which I think speaks more to being able to get the best that money can buy - in medical treatment and the poor just can't afford the same opportunities including getting on the organ donation list - even for the first time.
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JeanKimberley: For society as a whole mandatory with an opt-out clause might be the best way to go. However in America the individual is much more in control of themselves than a governmental policy - and I can see the religious right getting into a tizzy over this.... they do on everything else.
I guess someone always has to object, no matter how much sense something makes.
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Susanne1: Oh, you mean people ought to have registered as possible donors years before they need a transplant? Hm, I don't know - that would be a very harsh policy.
I think it would be best if organ donation was mandatory and people could only opt for very few and specific reasons.
I think it would be best if organ donation was mandatory and people could only opt for very few and specific reasons.
Susanne...here you have the option on your license as soon as you get it, so most people over 18 here have already opted in or out. I didn't mean it to sound harsh. I am actually a very compassionate person. I just wonder at the fairness of some-one who says 'no' getting an organ and some-one who has always said 'yes' misses out. I am not trying to be judgemental...just opening up the pandora's box.
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JeanKimberley: I remember the case - which I think speaks more to being able to get the best that money can buy - in medical treatment and the poor just can't afford the same opportunities including getting on the organ donation list - even for the first time.
It wasn't about buying the best liver. He abused the transplant and expected to be able to get a second liver because he was a very well known baseball manager. Celebrities expect to be treated as if they are more important then everybody else just like Kim Kardashian and Kanye West bypassed security at the airport yesterday. This baseball manager was an alcoholic. His liver didn't fall due to natural failure....he destroyed his liver with alcohol. If the liver failed due to rejection then yes, he deserves to go to on the list again.
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montemonte: If a person receives an organ transplant should they be able to get the same organ again if they abused the first transplant?
A few years ago a baseball manager who was an alcoholic received a liver transplant. After the surgery he continued to drink and tried to get another liver and he was actually put on the list AGAIN. He died before he had the chance to get the second liver.
I think in situations like that the person doesn't deserve the right to a second transplant if they have abused their body again when so many people need a transplant.
Didn't you say on another thread, you thought alcohol dependence was a disease?A few years ago a baseball manager who was an alcoholic received a liver transplant. After the surgery he continued to drink and tried to get another liver and he was actually put on the list AGAIN. He died before he had the chance to get the second liver.
I think in situations like that the person doesn't deserve the right to a second transplant if they have abused their body again when so many people need a transplant.
What's you concept of 'disease'?
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Thank you all for your comments. I am off to bed (at 6:20 a.m) but shall be back tomorrow to see any other comments
Nite all
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pisceslady7: Thank you all for your comments. I am off to bed (at 6:20 a.m) but shall be back tomorrow to see any other comments
Nite all
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I would love some input on the question.......
'If you are NOT an organ donor, should you have the right to receive organs if you need them?'