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May 4, 2013 6:05 AM CST Just wondering
ekself
ekselfekselfOnehorsetown, Eastern Cape South Africa8 Threads 261 Posts
People say such a lot of lame things that doesn't really make sense like
God helps those who help themselves. What do we need God for then? You can even take it a step further....if God helps those who help themselves then He should support criminals as they are helping themselves constantly.
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May 4, 2013 6:10 AM CST Just wondering
Migsy
MigsyMigsycandelaria quezon, Calabarzon Philippines16 Threads 1,632 Posts
Im scared
Catholic,i would never questioned or argue about HIM:-)
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May 4, 2013 6:24 AM CST Just wondering
Adalstef
AdalstefAdalstefReykjavik, Northwest Iceland94 Threads 896 Posts
It was flooding in California. As the flood waters were rising, a man was on the stoop of his house and another man in a row boat came by. The man in the row boat told the man on the stoop to get in and he'd save him. The man on the stoop said, no, he had faith in God and would wait for God to save him.
The flood waters kept rising and the man had to go to the second floor of his house. A man in a motor boat came by and told the man in the house to get in because he had come to rescue him. The man in the house said no thank you. He had perfect faith in God and would wait for God to save him.
The flood waters kept rising.
Pretty soon they were up to the man's roof and he got out on the roof. A helicopter then came by, lowered a rope and the pilot shouted down in the man in the house to climb up the rope because the helicopter had come to rescue him. The man in the house wouldn't get in. He told the pilot that he had faith in God and would wait for God to rescue him.
The flood waters kept rising and the man in the house drowned. When he got to heaven, he asked God where he went wrong. He told God that he had perfect faith in God, but God had let him drown.
"What more do you want from me?" asked God.
"I sent you two boats and a helicopter."
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May 4, 2013 6:45 AM CST Just wondering
Halv0
Halv0Halv0Marcoola, Queensland Australia19 Threads 766 Posts
ekself: People say such a lot of lame things that doesn't really make sense like
God helps those who help themselves. What do we need God for then? You can even take it a step further....if God helps those who help themselves then He should support criminals as they are helping themselves constantly.


Well, it depends on how you interpret what is said. This is the problem with english. It can have double or triple meanings for the same saying or words.

God helps those who love him by working all things for their ultimate good, but this ultimate good may not be manifested or realised here in the physical where God is not manifested or realised in person. Instead God manifested himself in the person of Jesus Christ, and since then, has manifested his help through people who believe in Christ, trust in Christ, and obey the instructions of Christ.

So in as much as God "lives" in these people, and these people help other people, then God helps those who are helped by their own kind, by other people.

Just because someone makes a statement like "God helps those who help themselves" does not make the statement true.

So if someone said, "The sky is pink". Would you then ask the same question of them? Of course not, because their statement is not true. So maybe the statement "God helps those who help themselves" may also not be true.
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May 10, 2013 6:09 PM CST Just wondering
mijas36
mijas36mijas36Mijas Costa, Andalusia Spain313 Posts
ekself: People say such a lot of lame things that doesn't really make sense like
God helps those who help themselves. What do we need God for then? You can even take it a step further....if God helps those who help themselves then He should support criminals as they are helping themselves constantly.

Good point.I´m going to steal your TV and car stereo then you can buy them back from me.Everyones a winner baby!
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May 10, 2013 6:12 PM CST Just wondering
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
Halv0: Well, it depends on how you interpret what is said. This is the problem with english. It can have double or triple meanings for the same saying or words.

God helps those who love him by working all things for their ultimate good, but this ultimate good may not be manifested or realised here in the physical where God is not manifested or realised in person. Instead God manifested himself in the person of Jesus Christ, and since then, has manifested his help through people who believe in Christ, trust in Christ, and obey the instructions of Christ.

So in as much as God "lives" in these people, and these people help other people, then God helps those who are helped by their own kind, by other people.

Just because someone makes a statement like "God helps those who help themselves" does not make the statement true.

So if someone said, "The sky is pink". Would you then ask the same question of them? Of course not, because their statement is not true. So maybe the statement "God helps those who help themselves" may also not be true.



oh good f..., people really will convince themselves of anything doh
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May 10, 2013 11:36 PM CST Just wondering
ekself: People say such a lot of lame things that doesn't really make sense like
God helps those who help themselves. What do we need God for then? You can even take it a step further....if God helps those who help themselves then He should support criminals as they are helping themselves constantly.
thumbs up
Never stop wondering!
If it is Good, it is Godly!
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May 10, 2013 11:56 PM CST Just wondering
mrpebbs
mrpebbsmrpebbscentral highlands, vic, Victoria Australia2 Threads 60 Posts
ekself: People say such a lot of lame things that doesn't really make sense like
God helps those who help themselves. What do we need God for then? You can even take it a step further....if God helps those who help themselves then He should support criminals as they are helping themselves constantly.

If you cannot interpret what that means, I feel sorry for you,maybe going back to school might help.
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May 10, 2013 11:57 PM CST Just wondering
mrpebbs
mrpebbsmrpebbscentral highlands, vic, Victoria Australia2 Threads 60 Posts
ekself: People say such a lot of lame things that doesn't really make sense like
God helps those who help themselves. What do we need God for then? You can even take it a step further....if God helps those who help themselves then He should support criminals as they are helping themselves constantly.

If you cannot interpret what that means, I feel sorry for you,maybe going back to school might help.
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