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Sep 30, 2013 5:34 PM CST Religious people are...
Dadude62
Dadude62Dadude62Elkton, Maryland USA1,120 Posts
DaytonaDude: Romans 1:22

King James Version (KJV)22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools

Scientist haven't proven anything. Easy to say something happen 60 billion years ago. Can anyone actually fathom how long ago that was

Let's see these brilliant scientist create a life form that thinks and acts on it's own as well as has the capability to procreate. Let's see them create a power source that goes on for million of years without burning out like the sun. They have theories (ideas and beliefs about these things) but are powerless to create anything like it. If they did, it would still be out of the materials supplied to them. Not out of nothing.




Science has no "beliefs". Albeit there are certainly a few scientists who want to make science a religion.
Actually the immediate universe is about 14 billion years old. Science did not conjure that up. Through observation of movement of the stars which seem to be coming from some common point they have been able to determine that, and a big bang theory. Science has proven that the speed of light is aprox. 186,000 miles per second for instance. The sun we see at any given moment is the sun as it was 8 minutes ago.
BTW,, a theory is not a fact. A theory will be based on available evidence and once proven with evidence it becomes fact.
Nothing is assumed on "faith".
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Sep 30, 2013 5:34 PM CST Religious people are...
SoonerGal
SoonerGalSoonerGalPonca City, Oklahoma USA21 Threads 10 Polls 2,363 Posts
Glatlol: So why doesnt this wonderful god share it?



he has with thousands that believe in healing...my Granddaughter being one... she was born with a malignant yolk sac tumor in her nasal passage...she will be turning 1 Oct 22... here's her page
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Sep 30, 2013 5:36 PM CST Religious people are...
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
SoonerGal: he has with thousands that believe in healing...my Granddaughter being one... she was born with a malignant yolk sac tumor in her nasal passage...she will be turning 1 Oct 22... here's her page



Oh so those of us that dont believe cant get cured, hmmm really loving god eh.I thought you said he was part of us whether we believed or not confused
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Sep 30, 2013 5:37 PM CST Religious people are...
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
SoonerGal: he has with thousands that believe in healing...my Granddaughter being one... she was born with a malignant yolk sac tumor in her nasal passage...she will be turning 1 Oct 22... here's her page



Sorry meant to add that she is absolutely gorgeous.
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Sep 30, 2013 5:37 PM CST Religious people are...
SoonerGal
SoonerGalSoonerGalPonca City, Oklahoma USA21 Threads 10 Polls 2,363 Posts
Dadude62: Science has no "beliefs". Albeit there are certainly a few scientists who want to make science a religion.
Actually the immediate universe is about 14 billion years old. Science did not conjure that up. Through observation of movement of the stars which seem to be coming from some common point they have been able to determine that, and a big bang theory. Science has proven that the speed of light is aprox. 186,000 miles per second for instance. The sun we see at any given moment is the sun as it was 8 minutes ago.
BTW,, a theory is not a fact. A theory will be based on available evidence and once proven with evidence it becomes fact.
Nothing is assumed on "faith".


you know, I have to give Science credit, because it originated from God...but for me to actually believe that mere men can say how old the world or universe is, but can't cure diseases if not acceptable to me... I'll believe my God way before I will ever ever believe anything a man (human lol) well or man:) says!
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Sep 30, 2013 5:39 PM CST Religious people are...
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
SoonerGal: you know, I have to give Science credit, because it originated from God...but for me to actually believe that mere men can say how old the world or universe is, but can't cure diseases if not acceptable to me... I'll believe my God way before I will ever ever believe anything a man (human lol) well or man:) says!



And to me to say that god can cure illnesses but doesnt is not acceptable.
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Sep 30, 2013 5:40 PM CST Religious people are...
SoonerGal
SoonerGalSoonerGalPonca City, Oklahoma USA21 Threads 10 Polls 2,363 Posts
Glatlol: Sorry meant to add that she is absolutely gorgeous.


thank you, she is an angel!
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Sep 30, 2013 5:41 PM CST Religious people are...
SoonerGal
SoonerGalSoonerGalPonca City, Oklahoma USA21 Threads 10 Polls 2,363 Posts
stringman: “But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.”

Daniel 12 : 4


Amen!!
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Sep 30, 2013 5:45 PM CST Religious people are...
justjim63
justjim63justjim63port macquarie, New South Wales Australia14 Threads 2,592 Posts
Glatlol: And to me to say that god can cure illnesses but doesnt is not acceptable.


Good point, My Son died when he was three and a half years old from a brain tumour, where was God then? or does he pick and choose?
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Sep 30, 2013 5:45 PM CST Religious people are...
SoonerGal
SoonerGalSoonerGalPonca City, Oklahoma USA21 Threads 10 Polls 2,363 Posts
Glatlol: And to me to say that god can cure illnesses but doesnt is not acceptable.



but we have to look at who the actual creator of bad/evil things is, it isn't God, it's Satan...and as long as there is people who deny God, Satan has a strong foothold...if God cured all evil in this world (which he can) we wouldn't be living on earth, we would be in heaven...I really don't see how hard this is to see doh
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Sep 30, 2013 5:46 PM CST Religious people are...
Dadude62
Dadude62Dadude62Elkton, Maryland USA1,120 Posts
SoonerGal: he has with thousands that believe in healing...my Granddaughter being one... she was born with a malignant yolk sac tumor in her nasal passage...she will be turning 1 Oct 22... here's her page


I'm happy for you and your granddaughter,,,
There are countless more believers who did not get cured. Many children he does not cure,,, What about them?
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Sep 30, 2013 5:47 PM CST Religious people are...
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
SoonerGal: but we have to look at who the actual creator of bad/evil things is, it isn't God, it's Satan...and as long as there is people who deny God, Satan has a strong foothold...if God cured all evil in this world (which he can) we wouldn't be living on earth, we would be in heaven...I really don't see how hard this is to see



Oh please, satan, best creation whoever started the whole god thing ever came up with. Same as confession,cope outs for reality.
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Sep 30, 2013 5:48 PM CST Religious people are...
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
SoonerGal: but we have to look at who the actual creator of bad/evil things is, it isn't God, it's Satan...and as long as there is people who deny God, Satan has a strong foothold...if God cured all evil in this world (which he can) we wouldn't be living on earth, we would be in heaven...I really don't see how hard this is to see



Same way I dont see how you can actually believe any of it.
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Sep 30, 2013 5:49 PM CST Religious people are...
Dadude62
Dadude62Dadude62Elkton, Maryland USA1,120 Posts
SoonerGal: you know, I have to give Science credit, because it originated from God...but for me to actually believe that mere men can say how old the world or universe is, but can't cure diseases if not acceptable to me... I'll believe my God way before I will ever ever believe anything a man (human lol) well or man:) says!



You keep telling everyone to read the bible,,
You should read about scientific discovery,,,
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Sep 30, 2013 5:51 PM CST Religious people are...
SoonerGal
SoonerGalSoonerGalPonca City, Oklahoma USA21 Threads 10 Polls 2,363 Posts
justjim63: Good point, My Son died when he was three and a half years old from a brain tumour, where was God then? or does he pick and choose?



First of all I'm so very sorry...I mean that from the bottom of my heart...sad flower you see justjim63 like I said we need to be blaming the accuser/ the one that actually let evil here on earth...I don't have all the answers, actually none hardly at all...one thing I do know is that your baby is looking down on you and is with you every step of the way...and one day you will be together again...life is NOT fair, but all we can do is put our trust in Jesus Christ and know that one day we will be reunited and to never part again.
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Sep 30, 2013 5:53 PM CST Religious people are...
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
SoonerGal: First of all I'm so very sorry...I mean that from the bottom of my heart... you see justjim63 like I said we need to be blaming the accuser/ the one that actually let evil here on earth...I don't have all the answers, actually none hardly at all...one thing I do know is that your baby is looking down on you and is with you every step of the way...and one day you will be together again...life is NOT fair, but all we can do is put our trust in Jesus Christ and know that one day we will be reunited and to never part again.



So all the good on earth is down to god but all the bad is satan, convenient isnt it.
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Sep 30, 2013 5:53 PM CST Religious people are...
janie1305
janie1305janie1305Southampton, Hampshire, England UK16 Threads 916 Posts
justjim63: Good point, My Son died when he was three and a half years old from a brain tumour, where was God then? or does he pick and choose?


How very sad Jim. Perhaps these tragic times are when religion is a comfort to believers, and that's not such a bad thing is it?

I am not a believer but I couldn't guarantee that I wouldn't pray if my son or daughter were seriously ill. Hypocritical I know. blues
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Sep 30, 2013 5:53 PM CST Religious people are...
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
SoonerGal: oh my (closing my eyes)



Why? I simply answered a question.
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Sep 30, 2013 5:54 PM CST Religious people are...
Dadude62
Dadude62Dadude62Elkton, Maryland USA1,120 Posts
SoonerGal: but we have to look at who the actual creator of bad/evil things is, it isn't God, it's Satan...and as long as there is people who deny God, Satan has a strong foothold...if God cured all evil in this world (which he can) we wouldn't be living on earth, we would be in heaven...I really don't see how hard this is to see


I hope you're not saying that the little babies and children he does not cure have somehow denied God in favor of Satan,,,
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Sep 30, 2013 5:54 PM CST Religious people are...
SoonerGal
SoonerGalSoonerGalPonca City, Oklahoma USA21 Threads 10 Polls 2,363 Posts
Dadude62: You keep telling everyone to read the bible,,
You should read about scientific discovery,,,


why would I do that? all the scientific discovery has already been foretold..in my Bible... why don't you step out of your box and read the Bible with as much of an open mind as you do everything else

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