SoonerGal: first of all Darwin isn't scientifically proven...it's a theory...anyone can pick up dust and create a theory on its origin...I could do that myself if I wanted..so no there isn't any scientific proof...sorry
Surely that can be said about any religion. There is no proof,just words in books,which anyone could have written,and added to over the years. I am not knocking your beliefs,i am just saying until one pegs it,one doesnt know. Its all just a belief.
Dadude62: How would I know she "did" hold things against me? And please don't site the bible as proof. I don't feel as if I have received " Gods punishment" for anything bad that I have done in my life. From that I conclude she does not hold grudges against me. Now if you are going to argue that "punishment" is awaiting me after I die, just as religion threatens, I'm going to tell you you have no proof of that whatsoever and you would be promoting religious fabrications.
I don't pray,,, I'm sure he knows what he's doing and does not need my advice.
I do reap the "consequences" for my bad behaviors in many ways. A severe case of the guilties for one. For some bad behavior I might get Man's punishments, not God's. I can go on and on about real consequences.
So I'm confused, is "your" God a he or she? Ok lets go this avenue...say you do something that is wrong, what do you do to make it right? say you do something and don't get caught, but as you say have this guilty feeling, how do you make that go away?
SoonerGal: first of all Darwin isn't scientifically proven...it's a theory...anyone can pick up dust and create a theory on its origin...I could do that myself if I wanted..so no there isn't any scientific proof...sorry
In science the word "theory" is not meant in the same was as in every day language, it means something that has been proven time and time again. I never mentioned Darwin.
Glatlol: In science the word "theory" is not meant in the same was as in every day language, it means something that has been proven time and time again. I never mentioned Darwin.
Where is the proof of a god?
you, me, trees, animals, clouds...I could go on and on...you know if you really really stopped and thought about it long and hard...then in that case evolution hasn't stopped...obviously it will continue to evolve...so with that being said...maybe just maybe we are just like the cavemen...maybe who knows what we would be in a bazillion years...I wouldn't buy that hogwash even if I wasn't a Christian..seriously
SoonerGal: you, me, trees, animals, clouds...I could go on and on...you know if you really really stopped and thought about it long and hard...then in that case evolution hasn't stopped...obviously it will continue to evolve...so with that being said...maybe just maybe we are just like the cavemen...maybe who knows what we would be in a bazillion years...I wouldn't buy that hogwash even if I wasn't a Christian..seriously
Proof of evolution IMO not proof of a god at all. What does not exist cannot be proven, god is a belief not a fact.
Glatlol: Proof of evolution IMO not proof of a god at all. What does not exist cannot be proven, god is a belief not a fact.
let me ask you this, in 100 years (oh course the earth is gazillion years old) we went from horse and buggy, to automobile...lanterns to the good ole light bulb (electricity) from smoke signals to the telephone...from Tonto to airplanes...how do you explain the explosion of technology in such a short time frame?
SoonerGal: So I'm confused, is "your" God a he or she? Ok lets go this avenue...say you do something that is wrong, what do you do to make it right? say you do something and don't get caught, but as you say have this guilty feeling, how do you make that go away?
Make amends. Some guilts I have to live with, I can. Guilt is a good thing really, it keeps me from doing bad things. I also know that I am human and will screw up from time to time, yes sometimes even because I feel like it. WHAT I DON'T HAVE, THAT RELIGIOUS FOLKS SUFFER FROM AND JUSTIFY WITH "BELIEFS", IS THAT SENSE OF ETERNAL WORTHLESSNESS OR CONDEMNATION. That terrible sense has been instilled in mankind for centuries by the witch doctors of religion.
SoonerGal: let me ask you this, in 100 years (oh course the earth is gazillion years old) we went from horse and buggy, to automobile...lanterns to the good ole light bulb (electricity) from smoke signals to the telephone...from Tonto to airplanes...how do you explain the explosion of technology in such a short time frame?
Can I assume that you actually think an imaginary being was behind all this progress?
I think that each invention helped with the next one, and this will keep happening.
SoonerGal: So I'm confused, is "your" God a he or she? Ok lets go this avenue...say you do something that is wrong, what do you do to make it right? say you do something and don't get caught, but as you say have this guilty feeling, how do you make that go away?
I have no idea what God is,,, I doubt "it" has a gender. For lack of a word for ?,,,, I will use He/She/It from time to time.
Dadude62: Make amends. Some guilts I have to live with, I can. Guilt is a good thing really, it keeps me from doing bad things. I also know that I am human and will screw up from time to time, yes sometimes even because I feel like it. WHAT I DON'T HAVE, THAT RELIGIOUS FOLKS SUFFER FROM AND JUSTIFY WITH "BELIEFS", IS THAT SENSE OF ETERNAL WORTHLESSNESS OR CONDEMNATION. That terrible sense has been instilled in mankind for centuries by the witch doctors of religion.
I think I see where the problem with all this...I surely hope you don't think that I live a sin-free life...but what differs between you and I is called "Grace", when I do wrong all I have to do is ask for forgiveness and he knows it no more... THE ETERNAL WORTHLESSNESS AND CONDEMNATION that you are talking about comes from not accepting Jesus Christ as your savior...being a Christian doesn't mean your not going to sin anymore or fall short...it means you HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN...so I think you really need to read the New Testament...
SoonerGal: Boy I don't know what God or religion you people have come in contact with, but my God is all loving and full of grace and sent Jesus Christ to bear all of your sins...
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools
Scientist haven't proven anything. Easy to say something happen 60 billion years ago. Can anyone actually fathom how long ago that was
Let's see these brilliant scientist create a life form that thinks and acts on it's own as well as has the capability to procreate. Let's see them create a power source that goes on for million of years without burning out like the sun. They have theories (ideas and beliefs about these things) but are powerless to create anything like it. If they did, it would still be out of the materials supplied to them. Not out of nothing.
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