CuddlingSoul: On the surface, it seems that most women here in the western world, don't take Sharia Law seriously. Kind-of like:'Oh, it won't happen to me' approach. I can't believe it myself, it's crazy.
are you really afraid that sharia law in the west will be and take away the freedom?
Obstinance_Works: Islam is dying at home which is where it counts as it is mans' evolution with the land he inhabits that ultimately forms culture and grant to it its character.
Whatever Islam becomes in Europe and the US it will not be the Islam that we know and if anything it will merely tie into the death of the West. Islam will just be one amongst a panoply of transplanted incompatible factions that we have here in our melting pot, just like Ancient Rome that declined when it was at its most diverse and decadent.
there is some truth in it,on the outside islan is growing, but in the families there is a change. Women want more rights, like driving a car.
CuddlingSoul: Spent 2/3 of my life feeling that the Christian crusades were very wrong and gave Christianity a bad name, but over the last several years, I can see why the crusades were necessary.
What an opinion, to say that killing was necessary. Last time i heard this from a fundamentalistic muslim.
SoonerGal: Well, as weak as it maybe...when your being FORCED to accept a religion or die, I bet there will be fighters emerge... since you like facts or proof, learn about Chrislam....it's where they are combining Christianity and Islam together to create a one religion...as much as people who say they don't BELIEVE in religion or God, well guess what, obviously most of the world does but just not the same God...it's fixing to real and crazy I promise
reb56: yup,more worried,about our govt.patriot act,was the final nail,it was drawn up,by congress,before 9/11,smells fishy,fails taste test,but it gets renewed,time n time,again!bin laden,etc.won!
yes patriot act cut human rights cut freedom more then islam in the states
sofarsogood74: Why look at UK? They don't have Sharia law....and what has building a mosque got to dowith Sharia law?
Tsk,tsk,tsk,Sunshine,read again! Imam Rauf claims that the US Constitution is Shariah-compliant! So you really,with a straight face,tell me that there is no creeping Shariah in the UK,and even in the rest of Europe as well?
lovemedofr: I sincerely think and hope that women are the future of Islam.. all those i know and i talk with don't want these false laws imposed by men !!!!!!
Conrad73: Tsk,tsk,tsk,Sunshine,read again! Imam Rauf claims that the US Constitution is Shariah-compliant! So you really,with a straight face,tell me that there is no creeping Shariah in the UK,and even in the rest of Europe as well?
here in germany are muslims, 3. generation, kids are born here,what i can say is :no problem, and sharia in germany has no chance
lovemedofr: same in France, whatever the medias say..... pure BS
I was 3 hours away this afternoon,when i came back i read what ppl. posted here about islam.My impression is that there is great paranoia,and much overstated.Comunism is no more an enemy, the new enemy is islam, this is all made by USA. In this discussion it was always spoken about islam.There should be a distinction between islam and fundamentalistc islam. It is time to drop all religions....
nokundi: I was 3 hours away this afternoon,when i came back i read what ppl. posted here about islam.My impression is that there is great paranoia,and much overstated.Comunism is no more an enemy, the new enemy is islam, this is all made by USA. In this discussion it was always spoken about islam.There should be a distinction between islam and fundamentalistc islam. It is time to drop all religions....
Most are anti-terrorism oriented, so am i most of time, because it's cause of big damages ... we must not be blind or deaf, it's a reality alas... but about pure Islam, it's a Religion, and has to be respected as any other else ! although we are living in civilian, democratic republics, we can still choose and practice our Cult... Terrorism will not pass, that is sure !!!!!!
lovemedofr: Most are anti-terrorism oriented, so am i most of time, because it's cause of big damages ... we must not be blind or deaf, it's a reality alas... but about pure Islam, it's a Religion, and has to be respected as any other else ! although we are living in civilian, democratic republics, we can still choose and practice our Cult... Terrorism will not pass, that is sure !!!!!!
i think in france are much more muslims as in germany, but i never heard of probs. Good to live in a democratic country , yes.
SoonerGal: I have a new found respect for you....you are absolutely right. The Right wing is just as corrupt and we are losing all our rights. I feel so sorry for the future generations, I can't imagine what world they will be living in, believe it or not, I' am a traditionalist...
a religious traditionalist yes What can you do by following a tradition? You will become a imitator. A tradition means something of the past and life has to happen right now ! A tradition, maybe very ancient--the more ancient the more dead. A tradition is nothing but footprints of a jesus or buddha on the sands of time.Those footprints are not a jesus or buddha or whoever. You can follow those footprints very religiously and they will not lead you anywhere, coz each person is unique.If you remember the uniqueness of the person no following may help you....
nokundi: thank you,from all religions this one makes the biggest probs. Now there a millions in england, the best way to avoid more bad circumstances is to integrate them.What else could you do? According to you there are really bad probs in england.It is not like this over here.the first 2 generations make the most difficulties, from the 3. one they dont make any probs. What i am afraid of is that hardened fronts come up, this is to prevent.With such fronts a solution will be far away. when i read here in the threads it seems to me that there is already a hard front there, which really disapoints me. Nowadays christianity is more human, but some 100 years before it was same inhuman and cruel like islam is nowadays. What we can do is to speak, to clarify again and again, but in a good way.What to do? whats your idea, young boy (joking)
Here's what I think and I know it don't matter to whomever reads it....there is ALWAYS extremist in every realm of religion, be it Christianity or Islam...what sets the two apart is Islam is a man, Muslim ruling religion and if anyone disagrees with them especially their own women, it's death or torture....I read in the paper here where a Muslim woman was going to marry outside the Muslim faith and her OWN father had her put to death...really????? and this is a loving religion????? for the majority nokundi Christianity isn't like that at all, there were extremist back in the day, but it wasn't the majority....and yes property here in the states is getting bought up by Muslims....
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are you really afraid that sharia law in the west will be and take away the freedom?
Are you parranoid??