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Nov 18, 2013 1:32 PM CST Thus Do They All (women).
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
From an Opera Bufa(comic)

Cossì fan tutte ( Thus Do They All -women-).

Abstract:
Two naive young men, Ferrando and Guglielmo, insist their sweethearts, Dorabella and Fiordiligi, would never prove unfaithful. Their cynical older friend Don Alfonso contends that, given the opportunity,
the fetching sisters would prove fickle as any other women. 1789

violin




Any comments?



bouquet
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Nov 18, 2013 1:40 PM CST Thus Do They All (women).
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
lifeisadream: From an Opera Bufa(comic)

Cossì fan tutte ( Thus Do They All -women-).

Abstract:
Two naive young men, Ferrando and Guglielmo, insist their sweethearts, Dorabella and Fiordiligi, would never prove unfaithful. Their cynical older friend Don Alfonso contends that, given the opportunity,
the fetching sisters would prove fickle as any other women. 1789



comments?

Its not up to Ferrando, Guglielmo, or Don Alfonso to decide, or pre-determine their actions.

Dorabella and Fiordiligi have free will and volition and can decide for themselves.
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Nov 18, 2013 1:55 PM CST Thus Do They All (women).
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
jac379: Its not up to Ferrando, Guglielmo, or Don Alfonso to decide, or pre-determine their actions.

Dorabella and Fiordiligi have free will and volition and can decide for themselves.


The point is that Don Alfonso states that all women do the same.

Which I do not agree with, as it would be the same to say that all men do the same.

Other arista of the play is that the two sisters got enamored by the oposite brother in disguise.

Would they have been happier, better that way?
We are talking about a 1789's play but on modern times.

Would it better for the two sisters to marry the two brothers and share partner?

Any way, monogamy seems to be outdated and they are family after all.


giggle


conversing
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Nov 18, 2013 2:04 PM CST Thus Do They All (women).
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
lifeisadream: The point is that Don Alfonso states that all women do the same.

Which I do not agree with, as it would be the same to say that all men do the same.

Other arista of the play is that the two sisters got enamored by the oposite brother in disguise.

Would they have been happier, better that way?
We are talking about a 1789's play but on modern times.

Would it better for the two sisters to marry the two brothers and share partner?

Any way, monogamy seems to be outdated and they are family after all.

Whether monogamy is outdated, or not, I still say we each decide for ourselves. bouquet
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Nov 18, 2013 2:12 PM CST Thus Do They All (women).
lifeisadream: The point is that Don Alfonso states that all women do the same.

Which I do not agree with, as it would be the same to say that all men do the same.

Other arista of the play is that the two sisters got enamored by the oposite brother in disguise.

Would they have been happier, better that way?
We are talking about a 1789's play but on modern times.

Would it better for the two sisters to marry the two brothers and share partner?


Case of.............get behind me satan!!!! Resisting temptation is difficult, especially when the loved ones have absented themselves.
In the case of Cosi fan Tutte............I think their lives were so enclosed.....they didn´t have much choice!!!! Unlike us fortunate 21st century folk.....who have the INTERNET!!!!!!!

Any way, monogamy seems to be outdated and they are family after all.
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Nov 18, 2013 2:12 PM CST Thus Do They All (women).
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
lifeisadream: Any comments?


The 18th century was right about women.
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Nov 18, 2013 2:13 PM CST Thus Do They All (women).
Looks like I came in too soon there..........exit stage left..that last comment......that belongs to Lifesadream.grin
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Nov 18, 2013 2:14 PM CST Thus Do They All (women).
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
Obstinance_Works: The 18th century was right about women.


sigh here we go again...yawn
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Nov 18, 2013 2:16 PM CST Thus Do They All (women).
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Obstinance_Works: The 18th century was right about women.


Yes, I know OW all problemns and troubles are the Women's fault!






Just remember that Women we are half of the population and
the Mother of the other half!

laugh

flex
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Nov 18, 2013 2:18 PM CST Thus Do They All (women).
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
hoolet: Case of.............get behind me satan!!!! Resisting temptation is difficult, especially when the loved ones have absented themselves.
In the case of Cosi fan Tutte............I think their lives were so enclosed.....they didn´t have much choice!!!! Unlike us fortunate 21st century folk.....who have the INTERNET!!!!!!!


Still 2 brothers and 2 sisters could be matched by the internet, although much less probable.


wave
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Nov 18, 2013 2:30 PM CST Thus Do They All (women).
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
unlaoised: here we go again...


It is ok if that makes him feel good.


Btw i liked your comments on the "French a ss/b utt from the European fora.


wave
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Nov 18, 2013 8:17 PM CST Thus Do They All (women).
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
lifeisadream: From an Opera Bufa(comic)

Cossì fan tutte ( Thus Do They All -women-).

Abstract:
Two naive young men, Ferrando and Guglielmo, insist their sweethearts, Dorabella and Fiordiligi, would never prove unfaithful. Their cynical older friend Don Alfonso contends that, given the opportunity,
the fetching sisters would prove fickle as any other women. 1789



comments?



Does one have to be young and innocent to still believe in love?

Like the brothers and sisters in the play.


wine


(Where is Jan? I could not find a more proper word as for innocent)
Naive..no
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Nov 20, 2013 8:37 PM CST Thus Do They All (women).
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
unlaoised: here we go again...



I did not mean to disregard your comment Unlaoised.

Rumplesforskin(before name)-OB (present name) is well know for his pessimist, dark comments on the world view and problems and very frequently –if not always- he blames women for everythink.

There is not sense -and not fun- into trying to make him to consider other points of view.


wave

wine
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