Evolution VS God.Or can Evolution be part of Intelliegent Design? ( Archived) (49)

Nov 28, 2013 10:15 AM CST Evolution VS God.Or can Evolution be part of Intelliegent Design?
Leo_7
Leo_7Leo_7Baku, Azerbaijan87 Threads 16 Polls 2,514 Posts
I cannot understand why people always put evolution against God.Couldnt God be the biggest scientist and create everything in a scientific way going on with the evolution.

Put all the religion and its made up stories aside.

Lets imagine.
God Is an super intelliegent super Energy.He (she,it whatever u prefer)first Creates fundamental forces of nature such as Gravity,electromagnetism,Weak force and Strong force.And given them super energy causes a Big Bang.The rest u know.Evolution takes over as part of Gods plan and God enjoying His great work going.

Science can go as far as beggining the Big Bang and think that they can explaing all physic laws of the Universe,but they would never be able find out what created fundamental forces of Nature and why they work exactly that way.
Yes every living creature can have a same deccendants just as everything in the Universe have the same material from little stone to the biggest stars.But that doesnt prove that there's no God.

So could Evolution be the planned part of Intelliegent Design ?

Opinions?
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Nov 29, 2013 6:08 PM CST Evolution VS God.Or can Evolution be part of Intelliegent Design?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
I agree.

That some sort of evolution has taken place is pretty evident.

The species of today are different from species of the past.

But I don't believe Darwin's version of evolution.
It's not driven by random accidents.
If it were there would be increasing disorder not increasing complexity.

DNA has been around since the beginning of life. Yet it's a code and can't exist without intelligence. Codes have to be encoded and decoded.

To me, the creation proves the existence of a creator. A guiding hand that steers the evolution of natural processes.
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Nov 29, 2013 8:50 PM CST Evolution VS God.Or can Evolution be part of Intelliegent Design?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
RayfromUSA: I agree.

That some sort of evolution has taken place is pretty evident.

The species of today are different from species of the past.

But I don't believe Darwin's version of evolution.
It's not driven by random accidents.

If it were there would be increasing disorder not increasing complexity.

DNA has been around since the beginning of life. Yet it's a code and can't exist without intelligence. Codes have to be encoded and decoded.

To me, the creation proves the existence of a creator. A guiding hand that steers the evolution of natural processes.



So where does it say that evolution is random or a random accident ? confused
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Nov 29, 2013 8:53 PM CST Evolution VS God.Or can Evolution be part of Intelliegent Design?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
If there was a creator involved we wouldn’t have evolution.
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Nov 29, 2013 8:56 PM CST Evolution VS God.Or can Evolution be part of Intelliegent Design?
I don't usually care these types of threads, since there can be no answer which changes anyone's mind - ever.

Because those that believe in the existence of god (an abiding faith0 will use all their reasoning to affirm or reaffirm that belief.

therefore,

I believe, I'll have a coffee in the morning after a good night sleep.
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Nov 30, 2013 1:06 AM CST Evolution VS God.Or can Evolution be part of Intelliegent Design?
Leo_7
Leo_7Leo_7Baku, Azerbaijan87 Threads 16 Polls 2,514 Posts
AgentAjax: If there was a creator involved we wouldn’t have evolution.
why is that? Why couldnt evolution be the part of the Creation or Gods plan?
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Nov 30, 2013 1:06 AM CST Evolution VS God.Or can Evolution be part of Intelliegent Design?
Leo_7
Leo_7Leo_7Baku, Azerbaijan87 Threads 16 Polls 2,514 Posts
RayfromUSA: I agree.

That some sort of evolution has taken place is pretty evident.

The species of today are different from species of the past.

But I don't believe Darwin's version of evolution.
It's not driven by random accidents.
If it were there would be increasing disorder not increasing complexity.

DNA has been around since the beginning of life. Yet it's a code and can't exist without intelligence. Codes have to be encoded and decoded.

To me, the creation proves the existence of a creator. A guiding hand that steers the evolution of natural processes.
thumbs up cheers
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Nov 30, 2013 1:14 AM CST Evolution VS God.Or can Evolution be part of Intelliegent Design?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
Leo_7: why is that? Why couldnt evolution be the part of the Creation or Gods plan?
Because apparently god doesn’t make mistakes and made everything perfect…..no need for evolution. wink
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Nov 30, 2013 1:26 AM CST Evolution VS God.Or can Evolution be part of Intelliegent Design?
Leo_7
Leo_7Leo_7Baku, Azerbaijan87 Threads 16 Polls 2,514 Posts
AgentAjax: Because apparently god doesn’t make mistakes and made everything perfect…..no need for evolution.
thats what religions say.
God could create and leave the rest to the evolution.Why not? after all we all base our faith in theories.dont we?
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Nov 30, 2013 1:39 AM CST Evolution VS God.Or can Evolution be part of Intelliegent Design?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
Leo_7: thats what religions say.
God could create and leave the rest to the evolution.Why not? after all we all base our faith in theories.dont we?
No this is incorrect- a scientific theory is solemnly based on testable fact.



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Nov 30, 2013 1:48 AM CST Evolution VS God.Or can Evolution be part of Intelliegent Design?
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
Leo_7: thats what religions say.
God could create and leave the rest to the evolution.Why not? after all we all base our faith in theories.dont we?


wave Hi Leo ...... got any theories on how god evolved ?

From the minds of men is my theory.
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Nov 30, 2013 1:52 AM CST Evolution VS God.Or can Evolution be part of Intelliegent Design?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
RDM59: Hi Leo ...... got any theories on how god evolved ?

From the minds of men is my theory.
I have though.laugh



Once upon a time a goat herder broke his toe and he wanted to blame someone for his clumsiness . laugh
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Nov 30, 2013 2:03 AM CST Evolution VS God.Or can Evolution be part of Intelliegent Design?
ivajlov
ivajlovivajlovSofia, Sofia City Bulgaria25 Threads 12 Polls 387 Posts
First it was the light and then there were the words.confused
Or was it just vice versa??

Like: First there were the words and then came the light? doh dunno
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Nov 30, 2013 2:09 AM CST Evolution VS God.Or can Evolution be part of Intelliegent Design?
Leo_7
Leo_7Leo_7Baku, Azerbaijan87 Threads 16 Polls 2,514 Posts
RDM59: Hi Leo ...... got any theories on how god evolved ?

From the minds of men is my theory.
yes sure.when man saw that they cannot explain simple natural happenings like thunderballs they started thinking about higher power.but evolution of God in human mind got wrong. laugh
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Nov 30, 2013 2:11 AM CST Evolution VS God.Or can Evolution be part of Intelliegent Design?
ivajlov
ivajlovivajlovSofia, Sofia City Bulgaria25 Threads 12 Polls 387 Posts
Can super intelligence exist without words??dunno

who tells you these forces are 4??

If you ask any Chinese man he will say they are 5!
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Nov 30, 2013 2:11 AM CST Evolution VS God.Or can Evolution be part of Intelliegent Design?
Leo_7
Leo_7Leo_7Baku, Azerbaijan87 Threads 16 Polls 2,514 Posts
AgentAjax: No this is incorrect- a scientific theory is solemnly based on testable fact.
come on no science can give answer to where 4 fundamental forces coming and why they work exactly the way that they work.
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Nov 30, 2013 2:13 AM CST Evolution VS God.Or can Evolution be part of Intelliegent Design?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
AgentAjax: Because apparently god doesn’t make mistakes and made everything perfect…..no need for evolution.
thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up
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Nov 30, 2013 3:05 AM CST Evolution VS God.Or can Evolution be part of Intelliegent Design?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
Leo_7: come on no science can give answer to where 4 fundamental forces coming and why they work exactly the way that they work.
Don’t forget science is relatively new it has been supressed by religion for thousands of years. There are only ideas and very vague hypothesis at the moment which are opened to challenge but some things are not like evolution.
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Nov 30, 2013 3:12 AM CST Evolution VS God.Or can Evolution be part of Intelliegent Design?
Leo_7: I cannot understand why people always put evolution against God.Couldnt God be the biggest scientist and create everything in a scientific way going on with the evolution.

Yes there's something afoot, Leo. The universe doesn't need life. It never has and it never will. It's beginning and end will never need us. It's path is set. And yet here we are. The Universes' Magnum Opus.
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Nov 30, 2013 3:12 AM CST Evolution VS God.Or can Evolution be part of Intelliegent Design?
jackson 5, can you feel it


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