Do you think,would very soon be a "divorce",between the EU and UK ??? (76)
online today!online today!Conrad73Zurich, Switzerland204 Threads 6 Polls 59,470 PostsConrad73: Scru the EU!
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chris27292729: Its obvious,if Greece's half work force,works for the Public sector,and the other half,supporting them,your days are numbered.
Not that different from my country. It is not a problem as long as there is solidarity among the people. Quite frankly I don't see Greece as taking over Germanys export so some people will be fortunate to run hotels or be big in shipping - they have to pay to the less fortunate somehow.
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Axcell: Not that different from my country. It is not a problem as long as there is solidarity among the people. Quite frankly I don't see Greece as taking over Germanys export so some people will be fortunate to run hotels or be big in shipping - they have to pay to the less fortunate somehow.
Yep,once more the great Idea of Collectivism rears its Ugly Head!
Lets make everyone look and feel equally shabby,just like in the old USSR!
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Axcell: You're old enough to have lived in the 70s
That guy is still in the Machine Gun tower waiting for the Germans on one side and the Russians on the other.
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Do you think,would very soon be a "divorce",between the EU and UK ???
UK needs EU!
Even if UK divorce EU, UK has to pay a lot of money to gain the EU market, but with no influence. Staying outside EU, UK would simply has to follow the rules EU decides.
This is just how it was for Sweden before joining the EU. Norway, as a non-member in the EU, has to pay an annual fee just to get access to the EU-market.
UK needs EU!
Even if UK divorce EU, UK has to pay a lot of money to gain the EU market, but with no influence. Staying outside EU, UK would simply has to follow the rules EU decides.
This is just how it was for Sweden before joining the EU. Norway, as a non-member in the EU, has to pay an annual fee just to get access to the EU-market.
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And they have the means ( meaning money from oil ) to pay!!! Has the UK the means, Norway has????.
abcWOMAN: Do you think,would very soon be a "divorce",between the EU and UK ???
UK needs EU!
Even if UK divorce EU, UK has to pay a lot of money to gain the EU market, but with no influence. Staying outside EU, UK would simply has to follow the rules EU decides.
This is just how it was for Sweden before joining the EU. Norway, as a non-member in the EU, has to pay an annual fee just to get access to the EU-market.
UK needs EU!
Even if UK divorce EU, UK has to pay a lot of money to gain the EU market, but with no influence. Staying outside EU, UK would simply has to follow the rules EU decides.
This is just how it was for Sweden before joining the EU. Norway, as a non-member in the EU, has to pay an annual fee just to get access to the EU-market.
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chris27292729: Who doesn't want,in Europe,to join this "political Monstrosity"????Even the Swiss is an associated member.
actually we ain't,even though the Concrete-Heads in Bern are hellbent to get there!
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Axcell: You're old enough to have lived in the 70s - constant devaluations, crisis and every nation for itself after the Nixon shock.
I would much rather have the days of the gold-standard back - not with gold but with a system we all can rely on - as it is now only the EU can produce that kind of stability. This would be Europe for the people of Europe and completely opposite of the old nationalistic dictators that wanted to be masters of all others through crime. BTW points for not mentioning his name!
You can call it collectivism I would call it pragmatism - I'm only interested in what works for once again have the future that we thought we had many years ago (better).
I would much rather have the days of the gold-standard back - not with gold but with a system we all can rely on - as it is now only the EU can produce that kind of stability. This would be Europe for the people of Europe and completely opposite of the old nationalistic dictators that wanted to be masters of all others through crime. BTW points for not mentioning his name!
You can call it collectivism I would call it pragmatism - I'm only interested in what works for once again have the future that we thought we had many years ago (better).
a Turd by any other name is still a Turd,to paraphrase the Bard!
Hope you're not holding your Breath,while waiting for the EU to bring in the Goldstandard!
How do you think the European Central Bank would be able to manipulate the EURO,and the amount in circulation under a Goldstandard!
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MADDOG69: That guy is still in the Machine Gun tower waiting for the Germans on one side and the Russians on the other.
You betcha!
You really think all those animosities that have been plaguing Europe for Centuries have been forgotten?
If you paint over a Dung-heap with festive colors,it's still a Dung-heap!
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Conrad73: You betcha!
You really think all those animosities that have been plaguing Europe for Centuries have been forgotten?
If you paint over a Dung-heap with festive colors,it's still a Dung-heap!
You really think all those animosities that have been plaguing Europe for Centuries have been forgotten?
If you paint over a Dung-heap with festive colors,it's still a Dung-heap!
Blut und Eisen
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More Eurosceptic in Cameron's recent reshuffle.
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Cameron is looking for trouble with EU. Most of his ministers are Euro sceptics.
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chris27292729: Cameron is looking for trouble with EU. Most of his ministers are Euro sceptics.
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A high five by Cameron to the winner, Jean Claude Juncker, yesterday. First vicariously opposing him,and then with your tail between your legs,offer your congratulations.
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Extra!Extra!Extra! This just in!
French Government Resigns
France's Prime Minister Manuel Valls presented the resignation of his government to the president on Monday, Francois Hollande's office said in a statement.
The statement said a new government would be formed on Tuesday in line with the "direction he (the president) has defined for our country."
The move comes a day after leftist Economy Minister Arnaud Montebourg called for new economic policies and questioned what he called Germany's "obsession" with budgetary rigor.
"France is the eurozone's second-biggest economy, the world's fifth-greatest power, and it does not intend to align itself, ladies and gentlemen, with the excessive obsessions of Germany's conservatives," Montebourg said on Sunday.
Valls, a centrist within the socialist party, replaced Jean-Marc Ayrault as prime minister in March. He was appointed by French president Hollande to lead a cabinet reshuffle after serving as interior secretary.
Since then, policy differences between Socialist Party leftists like Montebourg and centrist supporters of the prime minister have continued to cause infighting in the government led by Valls.
Montebourg's criticism of the economic policy in Germany, France's ally, seems to have been the last straw. Valls has "consistently said he will not tolerate any form of insubordination among his ministers," according to The Guardian. Valls' aides said on Sunday "that Montebourg had crossed a line."
Valls' resignation gives him the power to set up a new cabinet.
France is facing a mountain of economic problems. The country showed zero growth in the second quarter, forcing the government to cut its 2014 growth forecast in half from the expected 1%.
French Government Resigns
France's Prime Minister Manuel Valls presented the resignation of his government to the president on Monday, Francois Hollande's office said in a statement.
The statement said a new government would be formed on Tuesday in line with the "direction he (the president) has defined for our country."
The move comes a day after leftist Economy Minister Arnaud Montebourg called for new economic policies and questioned what he called Germany's "obsession" with budgetary rigor.
"France is the eurozone's second-biggest economy, the world's fifth-greatest power, and it does not intend to align itself, ladies and gentlemen, with the excessive obsessions of Germany's conservatives," Montebourg said on Sunday.
Valls, a centrist within the socialist party, replaced Jean-Marc Ayrault as prime minister in March. He was appointed by French president Hollande to lead a cabinet reshuffle after serving as interior secretary.
Since then, policy differences between Socialist Party leftists like Montebourg and centrist supporters of the prime minister have continued to cause infighting in the government led by Valls.
Montebourg's criticism of the economic policy in Germany, France's ally, seems to have been the last straw. Valls has "consistently said he will not tolerate any form of insubordination among his ministers," according to The Guardian. Valls' aides said on Sunday "that Montebourg had crossed a line."
Valls' resignation gives him the power to set up a new cabinet.
France is facing a mountain of economic problems. The country showed zero growth in the second quarter, forcing the government to cut its 2014 growth forecast in half from the expected 1%.
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In the end,is going to be Germany's slogan. ""Either do it,as the Germans,or else"""
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