Leo_7: what? should i be sorry for all the death that big empires caused thrue the history? wth?
What's next, the Greeks feeling ashamed for destroying Troy and all wish to pay reparations to Turkey…. Same goes for China, suddenly feeling ashamed for what their neighbour, Mongolia did to Europe under Gengis Khan, and starts urging Mongolia to start paying reparations to all European countries that the Mongol hordes destroyed with China also contributing payments, out of shame for having Mongols as their neighbor… What logic! It's simply astounding!
Kattte: What's next, the Greeks feeling ashamed for destroying Troy and all wish to pay reparations to Turkey…. Same goes for China, suddenly feeling ashamed for what their neighbour, Mongolia did to Europe under Gengis Khan, and starts urging Mongolia to start paying reparations to all European countries that the Mongol hordes destroyed with China also contributing payments, out of shame for having Mongols as their neighbor… What logic! It's simply astounding!
Kattte: What's next, the Greeks feeling ashamed for destroying Troy and all wish to pay reparations to Turkey…. Same goes for China, suddenly feeling ashamed for what their neighbour, Mongolia did to Europe under Gengis Khan, and starts urging Mongolia to start paying reparations to all European countries that the Mongol hordes destroyed with China also contributing payments, out of shame for having Mongols as their neighbor… What logic! It's simply astounding!
This logic is the logic,ONLY, from a Turkophone.As about Gengis Khan,i think he might find,that he did the right thing.Turkophones and Mongols,very much related.
Kattte: What's next, the Greeks feeling ashamed for destroying Troy and all wish to pay reparations to Turkey…. Same goes for China, suddenly feeling ashamed for what their neighbour, Mongolia did to Europe under Gengis Khan, and starts urging Mongolia to start paying reparations to all European countries that the Mongol hordes destroyed with China also contributing payments, out of shame for having Mongols as their neighbor… What logic! It's simply astounding!
chris27292729: This logic is the logic,ONLY, from a Turkophone.As about Gengis Khan,i think he might find,that he did the right thing.Turkophones and Mongols,very much related.
And this is is the logic of Turkophobe.Now Chriss you want Turks to pay for Gengiz Khan and Atilla invasions as they are historically related?
In some of those 4 countries, with Kurdish minorities,have taken up,an arms strungles.Indications that,are not happy with their rulling governments.-It looks like a geopolitical chain of event, going up in the area.-JMO.
eurolady: It is difficult to answer not knowing Kurds mentality and what they want...you have to live there in order to know...
Exactly what it was..."Sarcasm""It seems lots of your post on the subject deserve it.Especially your post 112.-And am sure you have already forgotten,Azeri killings by the Armenians,(by the way,this is very recent ,just almost 20 years ago,NOT a historical killing,like the Empires,you claimed, did).If you have forgotten, be the first to extent a friendly hand,and shake up to Armenians.-Pointing out, genosides, ethnic cleansing,crimes against humanity,does not mean someone hate,the perpertrators,or their nationality,in this case Turks.-The fact remains they did,what the did 100 years ago.-The only one who has doubts,is you.-
chris27292729: Exactly what it was..."Sarcasm""It seems lots of your post on the subject deserve it.Especially your post 112.-And am sure you have already forgotten,Azeri killings by the Armenians,(by the way,this is very recent ,just almost 20 years ago,NOT a historical killing,like the Empires,you claimed, did).If you have forgotten, be the first to extent a friendly hand,and shake up to Armenians.-Pointing out, genosides, ethnic cleansing,crimes against humanity,does not mean someone hate,the perpertrators,or their nationality,in this case Turks.-The fact remains they did,what the did 100 years ago.-The only one who has doubts,is you.-
Chrissyou are talking about the subjects that you have no idea.Yes Armenians killed 30 k Azeris and occupied 20 % of Azerbaijanis territorry.But it wasnt just them.It was a part of the empires plan .(Russian Empire)Armenians as 100 years ago played a russian puppets and backstabbed their historical neighbours.Because we dont hold hate.Armenians occupied our territorry with Russian military help but have lost their independence.They r de jure independent but in reality they are part of the Russian empire.Their economy is broken and taken over by Russia.Thats where their shawinism took them.If they never used agression to Azerbaijan,then their economy would be 10 times bigger than they have today.Cos all the pipelines would go thrue their territorry instead of Georgia.Look biggest foreign investors in georgia is azerbaijani companies.Today We are 3 times more than Armenians in population and just our military budget is bigger than their entire state budget.But we are still keeping peace talks.Cos we are a peacefull nation.But big countries not interested in peace.They want war everywhere.Anyway,let the politicians deal with it. I m not accusing armenians (which i should) here for agression against my nation and dont wanna talk about it either here.So please dont use that argument here as its not related.
coming to a so called genocide fact. I wasnt there ,nor you were.There is not enough evidences from neutral sides.Each sides accusing the opposite side.I know there 300 k armenians died but at the same time millions of Turks died.So may be Armenians genosided Turks?Theres many facts that armenian natioanlist guarillas Dashnaksytun were attacking Turkish villages and killing civillans.Those photos of dead people armenians showing to world as a proof of killed armenians in fact mostly killed Turks by armenians.Thats why armenians scared of opening their own arcives ,specially dashnakstyn arcives in Boston.Turkish gov many times offered them to open all the arcives and let the scientist and historians say their last word. But you are accusing me denying that something I m not sure of or dont believe.Its my right to beleive whatever i believe or i dont believe.I believe in facts and a decent neutral historians.Not the propaganda 1 more thing. Armenians claim genoside took place in 24 aipril in 1915.That couldnt have happened as all Turkish soldiers were fighting for survival in gallipolli .Something doesnt add up here.Dont you think?
Leo the Historian!!!! Just wait and see, 2015,the centenary year of the Armenian genoside.
Leo_7: Chrissyou are talking about the subjects that you have no idea.Yes Armenians killed 30 k Azeris and occupied 20 % of Azerbaijanis territorry.But it wasnt just them.It was a part of the empires plan .(Russian Empire)Armenians as 100 years ago played a russian puppets and backstabbed their historical neighbours.Because we dont hold hate.Armenians occupied our territorry with Russian military help but have lost their independence.They r de jure independent but in reality they are part of the Russian empire.Their economy is broken and taken over by Russia.Thats where their shawinism took them.If they never used agression to Azerbaijan,then their economy would be 10 times bigger than they have today.Cos all the pipelines would go thrue their territorry instead of Georgia.Look biggest foreign investors in georgia is azerbaijani companies.Today We are 3 times more than Armenians in population and just our military budget is bigger than their entire state budget.But we are still keeping peace talks.Cos we are a peacefull nation.But big countries not interested in peace.They want war everywhere.Anyway,let the politicians deal with it. I m not accusing armenians (which i should) here for agression against my nation and dont wanna talk about it either here.So please dont use that argument here as its not related.
coming to a so called genocide fact. I wasnt there ,nor you were.There is not enough evidences from neutral sides.Each sides accusing the opposite side.I know there 300 k armenians died but at the same time millions of Turks died.So may be Armenians genosided Turks?Theres many facts that armenian natioanlist guarillas Dashnaksytun were attacking Turkish villages and killing civillans.Those photos of dead people armenians showing to world as a proof of killed armenians in fact mostly killed Turks by armenians.Thats why armenians scared of opening their own arcives ,specially dashnakstyn arcives in Boston.Turkish gov many times offered them to open all the arcives and let the scientist and historians say their last word. But you are accusing me denying that something I m not sure of or dont believe.Its my right to beleive whatever i believe or i dont believe.I believe in facts and a decent neutral historians.Not the propaganda 1 more thing. Armenians claim genoside took place in 24 aipril in 1915.That couldnt have happened as all Turkish soldiers were fighting for survival in gallipolli .Something doesnt add up here.Dont you think?
Leo_7: Chrissyou are talking about the subjects that you have no idea.Yes Armenians killed 30 k Azeris and occupied 20 % of Azerbaijanis territorry.But it wasnt just them.It was a part of the empires plan .(Russian Empire)Armenians as 100 years ago played a russian puppets and backstabbed their historical neighbours.Because we dont hold hate.Armenians occupied our territorry with Russian military help but have lost their independence.They r de jure independent but in reality they are part of the Russian empire.Their economy is broken and taken over by Russia.Thats where their shawinism took them.If they never used agression to Azerbaijan,then their economy would be 10 times bigger than they have today.Cos all the pipelines would go thrue their territorry instead of Georgia.Look biggest foreign investors in georgia is azerbaijani companies.Today We are 3 times more than Armenians in population and just our military budget is bigger than their entire state budget.But we are still keeping peace talks.Cos we are a peacefull nation.But big countries not interested in peace.They want war everywhere.Anyway,let the politicians deal with it. I m not accusing armenians (which i should) here for agression against my nation and dont wanna talk about it either here.So please dont use that argument here as its not related.
coming to a so called genocide fact. I wasnt there ,nor you were.There is not enough evidences from neutral sides.Each sides accusing the opposite side.I know there 300 k armenians died but at the same time millions of Turks died.So may be Armenians genosided Turks?Theres many facts that armenian natioanlist guarillas Dashnaksytun were attacking Turkish villages and killing civillans.Those photos of dead people armenians showing to world as a proof of killed armenians in fact mostly killed Turks by armenians.Thats why armenians scared of opening their own arcives ,specially dashnakstyn arcives in Boston.Turkish gov many times offered them to open all the arcives and let the scientist and historians say their last word. But you are accusing me denying that something I m not sure of or dont believe.Its my right to beleive whatever i believe or i dont believe.I believe in facts and a decent neutral historians.Not the propaganda 1 more thing. Armenians claim genoside took place in 24 aipril in 1915.That couldnt have happened as all Turkish soldiers were fighting for survival in gallipolli .Something doesnt add up here.Dont you think?
OMG,Not that Dolch-Stoss Legende (Stab In The Back Legend) again! Pulease
Very interesting about how climate changes have affected history in the movements of great migrations. I know of only one major work on both global climate and how it set off great tribal migrations so far as I know. That was a 500 some page book called "Catastrophe: Investigation Into The Origins Of The Modern World" by historian David Keys, around 2000 or so… or "Underworld" by Graham Hancock also does a good job and deals with all the countries that lost their coastlines and cities when the 'ice age' melted and ocean levels rose by more that 30/ 50 feet around the globe. The maps of old coastlines and where some cities have been found is absolutely fascinating. Climate changes changes many things, usually not for the good.
Conrad73: OMG,Not that Dolch-Stoss Legende (Stab In The Back Legend) again! Pulease
how would you call the situation ,when all your soldiers were at war for survival of your nation ,and minority inside your country taking advantage of the situatuion that there's no military men left to protect ,attacking villages massacring civilans trying to occupy those lands and join to russian empire?Forget about Turkey.What would you call it if it happened with Israel?I guess you would have different opinion then.Same as Criss if it happened to Greece.Yes we call it a backstabbing.Whatever you call it is your business.And this cenario repeated again after65 year in the collapse of the ussr.again armenians with russian help occupied neighbours territorry and massacred people.just 20 years ago.this is the proof of armenian nature.playing a russian puppets and backstabbing its neighbours as soon as they get a chance.dont wanna see it,its your problems.we dont really care.
So,,, When ""Stabbed in the back"", and the time is right , you return,and eliminate the ""minority Back-Stabbers"" Armenians,Greeks,Jews,Assyrians,kurds. Very sad way of thinking.
Leo_7: how would you call the situation ,when all your soldiers were at war for survival of your nation ,and minority inside your country taking advantage of the situatuion that there's no military men left to protect ,attacking villages massacring civilans trying to occupy those lands and join to russian empire?Forget about Turkey.What would you call it if it happened with Israel?I guess you would have different opinion then.Same as Criss if it happened to Greece.Yes we call it a backstabbing.Whatever you call it is your business.And this cenario repeated again after65 year in the collapse of the ussr.again armenians with russian help occupied neighbours territorry and massacred people.just 20 years ago.this is the proof of armenian nature.playing a russian puppets and backstabbing its neighbours as soon as they get a chance.dont wanna see it,its your problems.we dont really care.
Leo_7: how would you call the situation ,when all your soldiers were at war for survival of your nation ,and minority inside your country taking advantage of the situatuion that there's no military men left to protect ,attacking villages massacring civilans trying to occupy those lands and join to russian empire?Forget about Turkey.What would you call it if it happened with Israel?I guess you would have different opinion then.Same as Criss if it happened to Greece.Yes we call it a backstabbing.Whatever you call it is your business.And this cenario repeated again after65 year in the collapse of the ussr.again armenians with russian help occupied neighbours territorry and massacred people.just 20 years ago.this is the proof of armenian nature.playing a russian puppets and backstabbing its neighbours as soon as they get a chance.dont wanna see it,its your problems.we dont really care.
Yep,the Legend served one Mustachioed Swine very well! I wonder where he got the Idea from? Al-Husseini perhaps? His Buddy Joseph?
chris27292729: So,,, When ""Stabbed in the back"", and the time is right , you return,and eliminate the ""minority Back-Stabbers"" Armenians,Greeks,Jews,Assyrians,kurds. Very sad way of thinking.
When you dont eliminate terrorist the country falls into chaos,Chriss.you should know that already.just look at middle east and iraq today.I know ur dream is to see Turkey destroyed like those countries today,but sorry mate.it will never happen.just opposite,they will become more and more powerfull.you have to accept that.
""' My dream to see Turkey destroyed""" OMG what a stupid assumption.- So according to your post 24 million kurds,in Turkish territory,are terrorist,and MUST eliminated????? . So anyone who is fighting for his Ethnic identity and wishes to free themselves from been oppressed,is a terrorist???
Leo_7: When you dont eliminate terrorist the country falls into chaos,Chriss.you should know that already.just look at middle east and iraq today.I know ur dream is to see Turkey destroyed like those countries today,but sorry mate.it will never happen.just opposite,they will become more and more powerfull.you have to accept that.
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What's next, the Greeks feeling ashamed for destroying Troy and all wish to pay reparations to Turkey….
Same goes for China, suddenly feeling ashamed for what their neighbour, Mongolia did to Europe under Gengis Khan, and starts urging Mongolia to start paying reparations to all European countries that the Mongol hordes destroyed with China also contributing payments, out of shame for having Mongols as their neighbor… What logic! It's simply astounding!