World War 3 (252)
lindsyjones: Moose, I do understand your position, but if you look at 2.2 billion Christians, can you account as to their crimes?
Research....I could spend all day typing. Try researching Christian atrocities. Lots of reading.
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lindsyjones: In response to Friday’s series of coordinated attacks across Paris, French President Francois Hollande declared on Saturday that France would respond with a “pitiless” war against the group responsible. Speaking from the Bataclan, the site of one of the attacks, he stated, “We are going to lead a war which will be pitiless.”
On Sunday, 10 French fighter jets pummeled the ISIS-held city of Raqqa with at least 20 bombs, according to the French defence ministry. Britain’s Mirror reported the jets hit a command and control center, jihadi recruitment center, munitions depot and a training camp.Read more at already warned me.
Here is the declaration of war Moose. I agree with you. There are more events far worthy to opt war as a response in global scale but I believe the series of events and the help of the media, already has made the world fed up. But nevertheless, it is declared by France 3 hours ago and by the covenant of US, UK and France, these three countries is one for all and all for one, I think. I am still reading the news.
On Sunday, 10 French fighter jets pummeled the ISIS-held city of Raqqa with at least 20 bombs, according to the French defence ministry. Britain’s Mirror reported the jets hit a command and control center, jihadi recruitment center, munitions depot and a training camp.Read more at already warned me.
Here is the declaration of war Moose. I agree with you. There are more events far worthy to opt war as a response in global scale but I believe the series of events and the help of the media, already has made the world fed up. But nevertheless, it is declared by France 3 hours ago and by the covenant of US, UK and France, these three countries is one for all and all for one, I think. I am still reading the news.
IF France evokes Article 5 of the NATO charter, then it won't just be the US and the UK....it will be ALL of the NATO countries that get involved (although, I am not sure how the Ukraine, a NATO member will react based upon NATO's reluctance to assist with their situation....then again, they didn't evoke Article 5). Article 5 (an attack against one is an attack against all) WAS last evoked on 9/11 - did that result in World War III? No, it did not, and the title of this thread hints at a third global conflict that will be declared as such. Emotions are VERY on edge right now, and yes, there will be, and already has been, military reaction. Is it "war?" Yes it is. Is it the Third World War? I sincerely doubt it - but one never knows. I know, and have heard many, many stories from those who have experienced a WORLD WAR...we are a long ways away from that declaration. A true WW these days wouldn't kill tens of millions like WWII...more likely a few HUNDREDS of millions. As terrifying as ISIS/ISIL seems to be, and they are indeed very good at instilling terror, they simply do NOT have the infrastructure to evoke a third world war! Now,...let a superpower become sympathetic with them...things could change....
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lindsyjones: Rob, all your contribution are absolutely legitimate ways of making life peaceful, now what would you suggest to do, now from the immediate events?
I think (for once) most countries are reading politics in the same light, there is a realization a collective effort is needed to deal with isis, however there needs to be positive steps to be taken to bring all the parties to the table and resolve political divides in the region, Syria, Iraq, probably Kurdish region, which requires positive impute, including boots on the ground from other countries like Saudi Arabia and other neighboring Arab States, supported by the likes of Israel who clearly needs to listen up and start positively engaging in the region.
I think a lot of thought by the major five countries together have found an understanding flinging-dung needs to stop, meaningful action implemented with a good dollop of compassion assisting in the first instance, Syrian and Iraq political divides to bring together all the peoples of those two countries with a common goal displaying a clearly defined shared future.
Backed up by a powerful decisive and comprehensive military campaign directed towards ceasing all hostilities by any aggressive party isis or any other.
That want happen over night, so meanwhile compassion must be directed towards those that have fled the region, as they are and will be, part of the solution, I think that's whats happening and therefore with certainty bound up in time, positive impute can and will lead to positive out comes.
If you plant an apple seed, apple tree grow, not something else, in same way plant positive seeds positive trees grow...
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lindsyjones: We're past that stage. It's facing reality as we speak. France declared war and no turning back.
And back on 9/11 Article 5 of the NATO charter was evoked...and there was NO need to stockpile food and build a bunker. ISIS enjoys irrational fear. Yes, it was a barbaric act of terrorism, but tonight, are you going to black out your windows for fear of the bombing runs? And who should we put into the camps until the war is over? Are you learning to speak the language of our enemies (an underground and spies will be very necessary)...the reality is, a non-uniformed, single extremist terror cell, evoked havoc once again. Your "fears" warm the cockles of the extremists hearts! There is no turning back? From what? A declaration of war on an ephemeral terrorist organization? We air strike (and over the decades this has proven ineffective....unless you go back to WW II...wherein enemy and innocents were ALL fair game) "them". whoever they are, back to the Stone Age?
Who is ISIS? What uniform do they wear? What country are they from? WHO do we declare war on and kill?
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lindsyjones: Exactly String, so what do you have in mind? Doing the same thing like Obama SAID, doesn't work either, so are we just keep on waiting who and where is the next?
ROFLMAO! Hit them hard and fast? Who are they? Really? This is ideological war....ask yourself where the ideology stems from,...and then nuke it? LOL! Simplistic fear-mongering.
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Dedovix: So, one question pops to mind, where is spiderman when he`s needed ...
Doing whatever a spiderman does....lookout, here's comes the spiderman,...(damn, never gonna get the song out of my head now!)
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lindsyjones: I just got done and yes I might be mistaken but I can tell you right now, his denial of the fact that this war is about Islam, he is stupid. I can tell you that anyone, you or me, who says that when they shout ALLAH AKBAR WHICH MEANS PRAISE TO GOD, that this is not about Islam? On top of that like I said, didn't we make the Acronym ISIS which stands for Islamic state of Iraq and Syria?
Now let us look for a moment about the video of the jubilation of the muslim community after the attack.
Another thing, do you really believe that there are non muslim of these terrorists? And why do they take the credit?
I listened and I said how it is said, Any president who solicits for response from the public yet doesn't see the problem is nonsense.
Now let us look for a moment about the video of the jubilation of the muslim community after the attack.
Another thing, do you really believe that there are non muslim of these terrorists? And why do they take the credit?
I listened and I said how it is said, Any president who solicits for response from the public yet doesn't see the problem is nonsense.
And me? The ever-tolerant atheist was earlier in this thread accused of condemning and calling this a religious war (which I did not).....so? You are stating that war should be declared against Islam?
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In response to: It is here and very real.
The bombing of the most beautiful city of the world is an aggression that assaults the whole of humanity.
Obama said and quote: "war against humanity".
Being one of the most powerful person in the world, do you think, that if this truly is a war against mankind, what would he do? If you were in a position to act upon it, what would you do?
I don't know any answer that can immediately make an impact to stop this madness, but I am hoping somewhere, somehow there is a solution that won't cost the whole of the one and only earth we have.
Anyone?
Thank you all for your participation.
The bombing of the most beautiful city of the world is an aggression that assaults the whole of humanity.
Obama said and quote: "war against humanity".
Being one of the most powerful person in the world, do you think, that if this truly is a war against mankind, what would he do? If you were in a position to act upon it, what would you do?
I don't know any answer that can immediately make an impact to stop this madness, but I am hoping somewhere, somehow there is a solution that won't cost the whole of the one and only earth we have.
Anyone?
Thank you all for your participation.
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This shouldn't scare any of us, that's way we have our troops over seas. So lets show our support to our men and women fighting for our safety
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Da_Moose: And me? The ever-tolerant atheist was earlier in this thread accused of condemning and calling this a religious war (which I did not).....so? You are stating that war should be declared against Islam?
I'm not the one who declared nor will I ever.
I just want the madness of killing end.
Now if the terrorists are using religion as a tool to carry their goal of killing every one is it not a war against them, that uses religion? Don't be naive every time they kill they praise their god. However this war is shaping up, it's because of many factors but the obvious is religion. There are so many videos uploaded.
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lindsyjones: I'm not the one who declared nor will I ever.
I just want the madness of killing end.
Now if the terrorists are using religion as a tool to carry their goal of killing every one is it not a war against them, that uses religion? Don't be naive every time they kill they praise their god. However this war is shaping up, it's because of many factors but the obvious is religion. There are so many videos uploaded.
I just want the madness of killing end.
Now if the terrorists are using religion as a tool to carry their goal of killing every one is it not a war against them, that uses religion? Don't be naive every time they kill they praise their god. However this war is shaping up, it's because of many factors but the obvious is religion. There are so many videos uploaded.
Huckabee already said: Reputation of islam is not the job of the president.
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tazdevil4406: This shouldn't scare any of us, that's way we have our troops over seas. So lets show our support to our men and women fighting for our safety
Thanks taz. My pleasure to see you and your input is appreciated.
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lindsyjones: I'm not the one who declared nor will I ever.
I just want the madness of killing end.
Now if the terrorists are using religion as a tool to carry their goal of killing every one is it not a war against them, that uses religion? Don't be naive every time they kill they praise their god. However this war is shaping up, it's because of many factors but the obvious is religion. There are so many videos uploaded.
I just want the madness of killing end.
Now if the terrorists are using religion as a tool to carry their goal of killing every one is it not a war against them, that uses religion? Don't be naive every time they kill they praise their god. However this war is shaping up, it's because of many factors but the obvious is religion. There are so many videos uploaded.
Ah, but you have. Carefully re-read your posts - I would be more than willing to engage in a legalese discussion of what you have stated.
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tazdevil4406: This shouldn't scare any of us, that's way we have our troops over seas. So lets show our support to our men and women fighting for our safety
Exactly! Hell 9/11 was WAY worse than this!
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lindsyjones: Moose, I understand, I'm tired too, the world is tired. Yet it remains unsolved. Don't concern yourself about this thread. All mode of information is in full blast talking about them. Don't suggest we should not talk on here.
Just don't participate. I have the right to express and so is everyone who choose to participate. Thanks for your input.
Just don't participate. I have the right to express and so is everyone who choose to participate. Thanks for your input.
And alas, I agree with you...I shall no longer participate. I see far too much intolerance, panic, and fear-mongering. Yes, this is a problem...but it sure as HELL AIN'T WW III! This kind of talk only serves to feed the hearts of terrorists. No, feel, free, talk to your hearts content. Your statement that the world is tired? Far from it! ISIL absolutely loves this and is fully awake! But recognize them for who they are - an EXTREMIST terrorist cell, that has twisted Islamic faith to suit their means...not something that could ever generate a world war! Remember Rwanda? Maybe Vietnam? Seven figure battles....never declared as World Wars. AND that was the title of this thread! I remember the days after 9/11....we were MINUTES from World War! Never happened. And now, I bid farewell...I have been "warned"...and yes,...I am HEAVILY armed and ready to fight. Talk the talk, just realize, you may be asked to walk the walk.
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Da_Moose: And alas, I agree with you...I shall no longer participate. I see far too much intolerance, panic, and fear-mongering. Yes, this is a problem...but it sure as HELL AIN'T WW III! This kind of talk only serves to feed the hearts of terrorists. No, feel, free, talk to your hearts content. Your statement that the world is tired? Far from it! ISIL absolutely loves this and is fully awake! But recognize them for who they are - an EXTREMIST terrorist cell, that has twisted Islamic faith to suit their means...not something that could ever generate a world war! Remember Rwanda? Maybe Vietnam? Seven figure battles....never declared as World Wars. AND that was the title of this thread! I remember the days after 9/11....we were MINUTES from World War! Never happened. And now, I bid farewell...I have been "warned"...and yes,...I am HEAVILY armed and ready to fight. Talk the talk, just realize, you may be asked to walk the walk.
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Da_Moose: And alas, I agree with you...I shall no longer participate. I see far too much intolerance, panic, and fear-mongering. Yes, this is a problem...but it sure as HELL AIN'T WW III! This kind of talk only serves to feed the hearts of terrorists. No, feel, free, talk to your hearts content. Your statement that the world is tired? Far from it! ISIL absolutely loves this and is fully awake! But recognize them for who they are - an EXTREMIST terrorist cell, that has twisted Islamic faith to suit their means...not something that could ever generate a world war! Remember Rwanda? Maybe Vietnam? Seven figure battles....never declared as World Wars. AND that was the title of this thread! I remember the days after 9/11....we were MINUTES from World War! Never happened. And now, I bid farewell...I have been "warned"...and yes,...I am HEAVILY armed and ready to fight. Talk the talk, just realize, you may be asked to walk the walk.
You have the right to do anything you want. Doesn't make sense on your fear mongering points. All media are in full blast on this talks, anyways go on ahead and anyone who's in their right mind would not label this as you've done.
But all the terrorists would love to silence everyone if they'd rum the whole show. Who's side are you?
Don't bother to answer. I already know.
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lindsyjones: You have the right to do anything you want. Doesn't make sense on your fear mongering points. All media are in full blast on this talks, anyways go on ahead and anyone who's in their right mind would not label this as you've done.
But all the terrorists would love to silence everyone if they'd rum the whole show. Who's side are you?
Don't bother to answer. I already know.
But all the terrorists would love to silence everyone if they'd rum the whole show. Who's side are you?
Don't bother to answer. I already know.
Normally, I would have just laughed and ignored, but you SUGGESTED I was not of a right mind. That is your opinion.
Media is ALWAYS in full blast....it is their BUSINESS to monger!
However, the reason I LASTLY respond is your question...who's side are you? Really? In my family their exist military medals from the Boer War to present, including both World Wars, the Korean Conflict, a cousin who fought in Vietnam in that losing cause, and all Canadian military actions up to and including November 17, 2015. I have far too much respect for the citizens of the USA, a country I am proud to call today and forever, an ally, to even begin to try and formulate a response to that CHILDISH a remark. May you fare well with your life.
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As far as I was aware , it's a war on terror, and atheist America is involved in this "so called war", so before you start condemning religion, remember there are as many Muslims fighting these terrorists , as there are Christians .
I did not condemn ANY particular religion...only those within the sect, no matter be it Muslim, Jewish, Christian, or any polytheistic religion, that MIS-interpretation the doctrines of their religion wherein they elevate their interpretations to an extremist level is WRONG! I do easily concede your point that there are Muslims just as actively engaged in the "war on terror", but this statement does indicate that the "bulk" of the war against terror relates to religious ideology. And, unfortunately, there are many, no matter what they belief in, that are indeed looking upon this as a war on Islam. Already I am seeing hate crimes on the news DIRECTLY aimed at the Muslim community! Just as barbaric in nature (but thankfully, not in intensity so far)