Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush. ( Archived) (281)

Dec 26, 2006 7:14 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
M117A1
M117A1M117A1Maineville, USA149 Posts
Ok Rich. Like I said, it just looked like it. They just came down. Straight down. The fear and anguish those people were going through. Its awful.
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Dec 26, 2006 7:16 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
ladydancerdivine
ladydancerdivineladydancerdivinejackson, Ohio USA19 Threads 256 Posts
well, some of the chemical compounds found at ground zero were not from jets.... there was evidence of bomb usage, and if you slow down the videos of the crashes and count the explosions you will notice that the first explosion occurred just prior to impact....and other explosions were in different parts of the building like the basement... other buildings undergoing the same type of damage did not collapse
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Dec 26, 2006 7:18 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
AlphaWolfe1954
AlphaWolfe1954AlphaWolfe1954Longmont, Colorado USA1 Threads 74 Posts
My son has been very verbal in the impeach Bush forums on the internet, as a result of this, he has now been listed as a "person of interest" by the powers to be. I think it's very sad that he is still walking on this earth, jmho. However, when I was in Dublin in 2003 and he was meeting with Tony Blair ... there were a lot of rallies to have him impeached being held. I brought home a poster which was placed on one of the pillars in the city and got a lot of grief as I went through customs about it. The other question I would ask .... I was of the understanding that he really wasn't voted in as the president. Would be hard to impeach somebody who was wasn't really elected. Just my two cents worth!
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Dec 26, 2006 7:19 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
M117A1
M117A1M117A1Maineville, USA149 Posts
Still, when demolition takes place, there is a set order to it, hence the reason why building collaps and not fly everywhere. Besides, I would think that if it were controlled demolition, people would have seen it taken place.
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Dec 26, 2006 7:20 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
ladydancerdivine
ladydancerdivineladydancerdivinejackson, Ohio USA19 Threads 256 Posts
there was thermite charges every thirty feet... in the twin towers, also used in building 7 which had nothing to do with it... it was "pulled" which is a demolition term, and was rigged at the same time, also keep in mind that the owners of said buildings, took 30x the value of the building just days before....
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Dec 26, 2006 7:22 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
freebird516
freebird516freebird516durango, Colorado USA28 Threads 232 Posts
Whats 8 in long and hangs between george bush's legs?
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Dec 26, 2006 7:23 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
TheProfessor
TheProfessorTheProfessorPandoras Box, USA91 Threads 4,746 Posts
To pull off consistant values with thermite alone, they'd have to have the building blueprints, and what type of steel went where though. There were 17 producers who created the beams, all with different tensile mixes due to specific parts of the tower, and how it was built.
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Dec 26, 2006 7:24 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
ladydancerdivine
ladydancerdivineladydancerdivinejackson, Ohio USA19 Threads 256 Posts
not necessarily it was done in the beams in the core, nothing was done in plain sight, actually... there were plenty of spectators that were shown on the news, but the information was later removed, stating that it looked like a controlled demolition and multiple explosions were also heard..... the planes that hit also had no windows, and had laser guidance.... commercial airlines have windows
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Dec 26, 2006 7:25 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
M117A1
M117A1M117A1Maineville, USA149 Posts
If there were thermite charges put every 30 feet, the team would have been seen putting the charges in there. I mean, to put that much thermite in a building, someone would have seen someone doing it. That also means that someone would have had to do it before the planes crashed into the building. No one in thier right mind would take thermite (especially that much) into a burning building to make the towers come down.
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Dec 26, 2006 7:26 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
ladydancerdivine
ladydancerdivineladydancerdivinejackson, Ohio USA19 Threads 256 Posts
well if the ownder of was the buildings was in on it, i don't think it would be too difficult to come up with blueprints...
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Dec 26, 2006 7:28 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
TheProfessor
TheProfessorTheProfessorPandoras Box, USA91 Threads 4,746 Posts
The building is way too big to pull it off with thermite alone, and semtex in an enclosed space would be making very loud 'booms' as the stages went off. There's no way this building could have been taken down by demo teams without cooperation of everyone that works there, and anyone who may have happened to visit on the day in question. Physics and demolitions planning says it's not anywhere near feasible. On top of that, how many who work there would want to die on that day as a result?
Doesn't fit, I don't feel.
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Dec 26, 2006 7:29 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
M117A1
M117A1M117A1Maineville, USA149 Posts
Yes, Pulled". Thermite comes in handgernades. That would have been an awful lot of rope to pull those pins.
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Dec 26, 2006 7:30 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
ladydancerdivine
ladydancerdivineladydancerdivinejackson, Ohio USA19 Threads 256 Posts
well, of course it was done before hand, and in the core of the building, it was sealed areas, maintenance areas... it would be easy to get in undetected... if they can come up with that much thermite what makes you think they can't get in there undetected, thermite compounds were found at ground zero.... according to professor steve jones he is the most respected physics doctor in the world.... google that info and see what you find
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Dec 26, 2006 7:31 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
adj4u
adj4uadj4unorth central, USA4,943 Posts
scare the masss to the point of giving away their civil liberties


if all the money spent in iraq was spent on securing or boarders i wonder how secure they would be
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Dec 26, 2006 7:33 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
ladydancerdivine
ladydancerdivineladydancerdivinejackson, Ohio USA19 Threads 256 Posts
add sulfur to it you get a much stronger compound with intensely more heat that doesn't require grenades... it was set off by radio...
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Dec 26, 2006 7:35 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
TheProfessor
TheProfessorTheProfessorPandoras Box, USA91 Threads 4,746 Posts
I would hope that thermite compounds were found at ground zero.. part of the metal mix for the beams contains the 2 metals in question. If not, that'd be really suspicious. As for sealed areas and the like.. you have to have -exact- measurements, 2 inches off down the side of a wall and things fail. He's stating the obvious without doing the math as to the type of metal. I however, have done plenty of research on the physics / chemistry /explosives math behind it and worked for a good while on a contest to de-bunk all 3 major conspiracy theories. If you're curious, I'd gladly scan and send you all of my physics and chemistry notes regarding this - almost 30ish pages.
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Dec 26, 2006 7:36 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
TikiGuy
TikiGuyTikiGuyWaterford, Michigan USA24 Threads 324 Posts
Not to mention the fact that he regularly fired on our planes as they patrolled the no-fly zone. Each time he did this it was an act of war.
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Dec 26, 2006 7:37 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
TheProfessor
TheProfessorTheProfessorPandoras Box, USA91 Threads 4,746 Posts
Problem with this, anything with laser guidance would mean that the target had to be 'painted'. Without extreme precision, much moreso than one could calculate from a good distance without even starting to factor weather conditions, it'd still be near impossible. Lasers happen to pass through glass, thus there is no laser deflection that would be noticeable with the way the sun was that morning.
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Dec 26, 2006 7:37 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
M117A1
M117A1M117A1Maineville, USA149 Posts
I am just looking at it from the standpoint of training and experiance. Thermite is nothing more than iron oxide, ie-rust.
Never-the-less, I will google Mr. Steve Jones and see what he has to say. Fair enough?
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Dec 26, 2006 7:39 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
ladydancerdivine
ladydancerdivineladydancerdivinejackson, Ohio USA19 Threads 256 Posts
i appreciate your comment, and i understnad but if you look at the pictures, slow down the videos and look closely you could see what i'm talking about, yes it sounds crazy and i didn't believe it at first either.... keep in mind that people that were there that day stated plainly that it was not a commercial airline... see if you have any magazines about it and look a little closer

an idea for everyone... go to google and type in the word failure and see what all comes up

or look for scholars for truth on google.... you'll find out a lot that you don't want to know
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