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Dec 26, 2006 5:42 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
Mitchell1
Mitchell1Mitchell1Chattanooga, USA116 Threads 5,584 Posts
"The hard fact is that so long as Saddam remains in power, he threatens the well-being of his people, the peace of his region, the security of the world.

The best way to end that threat once and for all is with a new Iraqi government -- a government ready to live in peace with its neighbors, a government that respects the rights of its people. Bringing change in Baghdad will take time and effort. We will strengthen our engagement with the full range of Iraqi opposition forces and work with them effectively and prudently".

You do know who this quote is from? right?
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Dec 26, 2006 5:43 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
Lionhearted1967
Lionhearted1967Lionhearted1967London, Ontario Canada143 Threads 10 Polls 9,887 Posts
No proof doesn't mean anything...If a murderer goes out and kills someone and there is no evidence...does that mean he is innocent?
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Dec 26, 2006 5:45 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
TheProfessor
TheProfessorTheProfessorPandoras Box, USA91 Threads 4,746 Posts
Of course they'll be found, they just won't be found in Iraq. We know he had them at one time, which was his justification to raiding. He dropped the ball, as Saddam has clearly moved them to another country. We know he didn't actively use them, or we would have been involved then.
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Dec 26, 2006 5:46 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
Mitchell1
Mitchell1Mitchell1Chattanooga, USA116 Threads 5,584 Posts
He certainly will not be convicted without proof. Example, OJ Simpson. and frankly, I thought they had plenty proof on him.
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Dec 26, 2006 5:46 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
TheProfessor
TheProfessorTheProfessorPandoras Box, USA91 Threads 4,746 Posts
Negative ghostrider, the pattern is full.
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Dec 26, 2006 5:48 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
Lionhearted1967
Lionhearted1967Lionhearted1967London, Ontario Canada143 Threads 10 Polls 9,887 Posts
Yup...the name of the game is...Don't leave incriminating evidence laying around...
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Dec 26, 2006 5:48 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
TikiGuy
TikiGuyTikiGuyWaterford, Michigan USA24 Threads 324 Posts
What about the huge underground WMD lab they found complete with hazmat suits and everything that had been evacuated? It is the size of an entire city. Is it possible he evacuated the stuff some time durring the 12 or so years of UN resolutions?

What about the $25,000 checks Saddam was publicly paying the families of suicide bombers in Iseal. Is supporting terror ok if it's only directed at Jews?

Am I the only one who wonders where a poor Iraqi who makes $4,000 per year gets money to buy $20,000 worth of weapons? Ge, do you think someone else might be financing the insurgency or do they just take out loans for the stuff because they want us out so bad?confused
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Dec 26, 2006 5:49 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
Mitchell1
Mitchell1Mitchell1Chattanooga, USA116 Threads 5,584 Posts
And President Clinton was the master of this strategy, except for that one little slip up.
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Dec 26, 2006 5:52 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
Jan1305
Jan1305Jan1305Sunshine and vino, Murcia Spain170 Threads 5,319 Posts
Impeachment? Maybe, more pressing is the need for education and lessons regarding public speaking,

How can a man in his position make so many gaffes in public? It baffles me, he is a joke, and America should be ashamed that such a man is representing their country.
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Dec 26, 2006 5:55 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
TheProfessor
TheProfessorTheProfessorPandoras Box, USA91 Threads 4,746 Posts
Failed to comply... That statement couldn't be any worse. -WE GAVE- him the weaponry to sort out the Iran issue in the early 80's. I fail to understand how he's all of a sudden guilty for having things -we- gave him, and then decide to raid his country to remove them. Why should he have to comply with the weapons inspectors now, and why is it a problem now when it wasn't years ago? He's been one in the same, and if you look at his history.. it doesn't really waver all that much.

This here is a typical example of the same things that the CIA and NSA pulls with their informants. If at any time feel they've lost 'positive control' or there is intelligence that the informant is actually playing both sides.. they attempt the dirt nap method - that's what's happened here imho, point blank.

Acting without warning... another good joke. The president is clueless as to how diplomacy works, and was probably hoping that Iraq wouldn't comply just so he could have yet another reason to go after the oil. Why do I think this? It's something that directly affects him, and in oil... profit is the bottom line.

I know this will be countered with 'He's looking out for the best interest of the people...' so I'll just make my statement on that right now. He's looking out for himself, and couldn't give a damn about the troops we're losing. Enlistment is up, especially due to increased college tuition and enlistment bonuses. If he truely cared, why would he be hunting for the WMD after we have him, does he think that there will be an uprising, and someone will build a homemade device to launch one over night? Realism folks, look and see - it's clear-cut.
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Dec 26, 2006 5:57 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
TheProfessor
TheProfessorTheProfessorPandoras Box, USA91 Threads 4,746 Posts
I'm definitely ashamed of the rodeo clown oil tycoon, and I sincerely hope they do impeach him and smack him with a big trial for war crimes as well.
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Dec 26, 2006 6:00 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
Mitchell1
Mitchell1Mitchell1Chattanooga, USA116 Threads 5,584 Posts
IQ Expert: Bush Smarter Than Kerry

Since the early days of his first presidential campaign, Democratic hit men and women have challenged George W. Bush on his alleged poor intellect.

The generalization was that sure, Bush might be a folksy, down-home, warm guy, but come on – when it comes to brains, he got left behind.


In fact, a phony claim from the non-existent "Lovenstein Institute" which circulated on the Internet in 2001 and was eventually included in leftist Gary Trudeau's "Doonesbury" comic strip, pegged the president's IQ at 91, the lowest of any modern-day president.


Never mind that the young George W. Bush mastered both Yale and fighter planes, and managed to succeed in a number of business ventures, which included the successful purchase and sale of Major League Baseball's Texas Rangers.


Now Bush bashers should get ready to wince, moan and groan: The New York Times reports Bush is not only a brainy guy, but may actually be smarter than the other Yale-educated presidential candidate, John Kerry.


The Times quoted Steve Sailer, a columnist for immigration reform Web magazine Vdare.com, who is also adept at estimating a person's IQ, and has done so for many presidents in the past.


In the 2000 presidential race, Sailer estimated Democrat Al Gore's IQ to be 10 points higher than Bush's score, which figured to be around the mid-120s.


Reports the Times: "Mr. Bush's score on the Air Force Officer Qualifying Test at age 22 again suggests that his I.Q. was the mid-120's, putting Mr. Bush in about the 95th percentile of the population, according to Mr. Sailer. Mr. Kerry's I.Q. was about 120, in the 91st percentile, according to Mr. Sailer's extrapolation of his score at age 22 on the Navy Officer Qualification Test."


Sailer's analysis was called credible by Linda Gottfredson, an IQ expert at the University of Delaware. She told the Times she wasn't surprised at the results or that so many people had assumed that Mr. Kerry was smarter.


"People will often be misled into thinking someone is brighter if he says something complicated they can't understand," she said.


We won't hold our breath waiting for the president's detractors to apologize.
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Dec 26, 2006 6:02 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
M117A1
M117A1M117A1Maineville, USA149 Posts
If we believe that 911 was an inside job, then we have to look at the oklahoma city bombing as being an inside job. Not one BATF agent was in the office that day, not even the admin people. A bomb made of ammonium nitrate, to do the kind of damage it did, has to be pure grade. Sorry folks, but farm grade ammonium nitrate will not produce a substantial explosion. While rescue operations were taking place, unexploded bombs were being pulled out of the rubble. McVeigh was blammed for the one bomb, that being the truck bomb. Also, the building was "to clean cut". In other words, bombs were planted inside the building to do that damage. The question has been asked "how come the building across the street did not sustain damage?".
The BATF knew that the explosion was going to take place, but did nothing at all to stop it. Innocent people died as a result of the govermental powers of that time.
Yes people, I know what I am talking about. I worked with munitions, ammunition and explosives while in the military. I know what works, and what doesn't work and I can tell you, farm grade ammonium nitrate just doesn't cut the mustard, when being used as an explosive.

Once again, as-per-usual and as per always, just my .02 worth.
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Dec 26, 2006 6:03 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
Mitchell1
Mitchell1Mitchell1Chattanooga, USA116 Threads 5,584 Posts
I`m not sure you understand who said that, that was a direct quote from the president you all fell in love with. None other than Willaim Jefferson Clinton.



"When Saddam still failed to comply, we prepared to act militarily. It was only then at the last possible moment that Iraq backed down. It pledged to the UN that it had made, and I quote, a clear and unconditional decision to resume cooperation with the weapons inspectors.

I made it very clear at that time what unconditional cooperation meant, based on existing UN resolutions and Iraq's own commitments. And along with Prime Minister Blair of Great Britain, I made it equally clear that if Saddam failed to cooperate fully, we would be prepared to act without delay, diplomacy or warning".

Bill Clinton
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Dec 26, 2006 6:04 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
TheProfessor
TheProfessorTheProfessorPandoras Box, USA91 Threads 4,746 Posts
Since you brought up IQ.. let's discuss that. If the president is some form of misunderstood genius, and can't think outside the box and figure out where Saddam put his WMD(which -supposedly exist, but have never been found).. does that make Saddam some form of immeasurable genius?
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Dec 26, 2006 6:07 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
Mitchell1
Mitchell1Mitchell1Chattanooga, USA116 Threads 5,584 Posts
I was just responding to the claims that the Presidend is an idiot. His IQ does not reflect that of a genius.
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Dec 26, 2006 6:09 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
Jan1305
Jan1305Jan1305Sunshine and vino, Murcia Spain170 Threads 5,319 Posts
Thankyou!

As an English woman living in Spain, I do not necessarily agree with much of Prime Minister Tony Blair's policies, despite being a life-long Labour supporter, however, he never embarrasses me when I hear his public speeches even though I may not agree with what he is saying, the same goes for the President of the Spanish Government. However, when I listen to Bush, and leaving aside political differences, I really cringe and feel embarrassed by his stupidity and crass remarks.

I know that everybody beilieves that anything is possible in America but how on earth did such an ill-educated man become President????
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Dec 26, 2006 6:11 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
sexysweeti
sexysweetisexysweetiClinton, USA22 Threads 1,788 Posts
What we are really talking about is not whether Iraq was a proliferator, because the UN had basically answered that question before the war began. It is really whether the US and Britain took what was a UN estimate that Iraq had capabilities that couldn't be accounted for and translated that into a false estimate that Iraq was actively developing and producing weapons for immediate deployment.

Bush lied to the people and the penalty is Impeachment.

John Dean, a leading figure in the Nixon era Watergate scandal, has written:

In the three decades since Watergate, this is the first potential scandal I have seen that could make Watergate pale by comparison. To put it bluntly, if Bush has taken Congress and the nation into war based on bogus information, he is cooked. Manipulation or deliberate misuse of national security intelligence data, if proven, could be 'a high crime' under the Constitution's impeachment clause. It would also be a violation of federal criminal law, including the broad federal anti-conspiracy statute, which renders it a felony 'to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose.
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Dec 26, 2006 6:13 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
Jan1305
Jan1305Jan1305Sunshine and vino, Murcia Spain170 Threads 5,319 Posts
handshake We crossed posts, you have said exactly what I was questioning earlier.

What's the answer though?
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Dec 26, 2006 6:14 PM CST Let's Debate.....Impeach George W. Bush.
TheProfessor
TheProfessorTheProfessorPandoras Box, USA91 Threads 4,746 Posts
The answer is that.. our president needs to be impeached before he gets outsmarted by a hunk of celery. wink hug
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