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Aug 6, 2016 8:27 PM CST Say Anything
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
finally some cooler air for the next few days, but

it won't last long as we'll be in the soup the first of the week.
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Aug 6, 2016 10:20 PM CST Say Anything
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
No surprise, the convention is history and it's now time for Hillary to roll on, business as usual.. frustrated


Hillary Clinton is growing cozier with the hydraulic fracturing industry, just months after she promised to heavily regulate it.

The Democratic Party's presidential candidate attended a $50,000 per place fundraiser in Aspen, Colorado on Tuesday, hosted by fracking magnate Charif Souaki. The event raised $650,000 for the campaign.

Comments..

Fiasco Linguini realistic4U • 7 hours ago

You've really guzzled down the Kool Aid, huh? You can delude yourself all you want, anyone with an iota of common sense can see she hasn't changed her spots, and never will. Just as Obama pushed for TPP, HRC will push for fracking. And TPP. And Monsanto, and Wall Street, etc. etc. etc.




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Aug 6, 2016 10:27 PM CST Say Anything
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
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Corporate Money Defeats GMO Labeling—What Would Gandhi Do?


The deed is done. On Friday, July 29, 2016, President Obama signed a bill that was written by corporations, paid for by corporations and that serves no one in this country—except corporations.

S.764, known by its opponents as the DARK (Deny Americans the Right to Know) Act, preempts Vermont’s mandatory GMO labeling law and substitutes in its place a federal bill that, no matter how Obama and his Congress try to spin it, is not mandatory and does not require labels—at least not labels that anyone can read. Not to mention that most GMO ingredients will be exempt under this fake "law."

I could, once again, list all the reasons this bill fails consumers. But I and others have already done that countless times, to no avail. The bill is a sham, a slap in the face to the 90 percent of Americans who support labeling. It’s an attack on states’ rights. It’s another “gift” to Monsanto and Big Food.

And, for anyone who still harbored any doubt, S.764 is proof that our Democracy is broken, that our lawmakers answer to Corporate America, not to us, the people who elect them.



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Aug 6, 2016 10:28 PM CST Say Anything
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
bohemianjack: Corporate Money Defeats GMO Labeling—What Would Gandhi Do?

The deed is done. On Friday, July 29, 2016, President Obama signed a bill that was written by corporations, paid for by corporations and that serves no one in this country—except corporations.

S.764, known by its opponents as the DARK (Deny Americans the Right to Know) Act, preempts Vermont’s mandatory GMO labeling law and substitutes in its place a federal bill that, no matter how Obama and his Congress try to spin it, is not mandatory and does not require labels—at least not labels that anyone can read. Not to mention that most GMO ingredients will be exempt under this fake "law."

I could, once again, list all the reasons this bill fails consumers. But I and others have already done that countless times, to no avail. The bill is a sham, a slap in the face to the 90 percent of Americans who support labeling. It’s an attack on states’ rights. It’s another “gift” to Monsanto and Big Food.

And, for anyone who still harbored any doubt, S.764 is proof that our Democracy is broken, that our lawmakers answer to Corporate America, not to us, the people who elect them.

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Aug 6, 2016 10:35 PM CST Say Anything
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
bohemianjack: No surprise, the convention is history and it's now time for Hillary to roll on, business as usual.. Hillary Clinton is growing cozier with the hydraulic fracturing industry, just months after she promised to heavily regulate it.

The Democratic Party's presidential candidate attended a $50,000 per place fundraiser in Aspen, Colorado on Tuesday, hosted by fracking magnate Charif Souaki. The event raised $650,000 for the campaign.

Comments..

Fiasco Linguini realistic4U • 7 hours ago

You've really guzzled down the Kool Aid, huh? You can delude yourself all you want, anyone with an iota of common sense can see she hasn't changed her spots, and never will. Just as Obama pushed for TPP, HRC will push for fracking. And TPP. And Monsanto, and Wall Street, etc. etc. etc.http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/37120-clinton-fundraises-with-frackers


wave

Bernie Sanders supporters are flocking to Jill Stein, the presumptive Green Party presidential candidate, with donations to her campaign exploding nearly 1000% after he endorsed Hillary Clinton. Stein salutes Sanders for the progressive populist movement he began and says it is up to her to carry the baton. Can she do it? Critics say her radical policies will not hold up to scrutiny. But supporters say they are just the medicine the economy needs.

Stein goes even further than Sanders on several key issues, and one of them is her economic platform. She has proposed a "Power to the People Plan" that guarantees basic economic human rights, including access to food, water, housing, and utilities; living-wage jobs for every American who needs to work; an improved "Medicare for All" single-payer public health insurance program; tuition-free public education through university level; and the abolition of student debt. She also supports the reinstatement of Glass-Steagall, separating depository banking from speculative investment banking; the breakup of megabanks into smaller banks; federal postal banks to service the unbanked and under-banked; and the formation of publicly-owned banks at the state and local level.

As with Sanders' economic proposals, her plan has been challenged as unrealistic. Where will Congress find the money?

But Stein argues that the funds can be found. Going beyond Bernie, she calls for large cuts to the bloated military budget, which makes up 55% of federal discretionary spending; and progressive taxation, ensuring that the wealthy pay their fair share. Most controversial, however, is her plan to tap up the Federal Reserve. Pointing to the massive sums the Fed produced out of the blue to bail out Wall Street, she says the same resources used to save the perpetrators of the crisis could be made available to its Main Street victims, beginning with the students robbed of their futures by massive student debt.



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Aug 6, 2016 10:36 PM CST Say Anything
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
"It’s an attack on states’ rights".

their being held hostage.

do as we say or were not giving federal funding for that bridge that's about to collapse.
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Aug 6, 2016 10:39 PM CST Say Anything
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
bohemianjack: Corporate Money Defeats GMO Labeling—What Would Gandhi Do?

The deed is done. On Friday, July 29, 2016, President Obama signed a bill that was written by corporations, paid for by corporations and that serves no one in this country—except corporations.

S.764, known by its opponents as the DARK (Deny Americans the Right to Know) Act, preempts Vermont’s mandatory GMO labeling law and substitutes in its place a federal bill that, no matter how Obama and his Congress try to spin it, is not mandatory and does not require labels—at least not labels that anyone can read. Not to mention that most GMO ingredients will be exempt under this fake "law."

I could, once again, list all the reasons this bill fails consumers. But I and others have already done that countless times, to no avail. The bill is a sham, a slap in the face to the 90 percent of Americans who support labeling. It’s an attack on states’ rights. It’s another “gift” to Monsanto and Big Food.

And, for anyone who still harbored any doubt, S.764 is proof that our Democracy is broken, that our lawmakers answer to Corporate America, not to us, the people who elect them.



We’ve alerted millions of consumers that they can’t trust the mass media, regulatory agencies or the scientific establishment. If consumers or farmers want truthful information about food and farming they need to tune in to the alternative and social media. This alternative media includes the mass circulation newsletters, websites and Facebook pages of groups like Mercola.com, the Organic Consumers Association, Center for Food Safety, Food Democracy Now, Friends of the Earth, Pesticide Action Network, Moms Across America, Regeneration International, Seed Freedom and hundreds of others that refuse to regurgitate industry propaganda. We need to keep supporting the truth-seekers, like U.S. Right to Know, as they continue to expose Big Food’s dark secrets.

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Aug 6, 2016 10:41 PM CST Say Anything
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
purr4mance: "It’s an attack on states’ rights".

their being held hostage.

do as we say or were not giving federal funding for that bridge that's about to collapse.


As usual, you are being intentionally vague.. doh

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Aug 6, 2016 10:44 PM CST Say Anything
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
bohemianjack: We’ve alerted millions of consumers that they can’t trust the mass media, regulatory agencies or the scientific establishment. If consumers or farmers want truthful information about food and farming they need to tune in to the alternative and social media. This alternative media includes the mass circulation newsletters, websites and Facebook pages of groups like Mercola.com, the Organic Consumers Association, Center for Food Safety, Food Democracy Now, Friends of the Earth, Pesticide Action Network, Moms Across America, Regeneration International, Seed Freedom and hundreds of others that refuse to regurgitate industry propaganda. We need to keep supporting the truth-seekers, like U.S. Right to Know, as they continue to expose Big Food’s dark secrets.


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Aug 6, 2016 10:55 PM CST Say Anything
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
bohemianjack: As usual, you are being intentionally vague..



not vague but succinct.
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Aug 6, 2016 11:04 PM CST Say Anything
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
purr4mance: "It’s an attack on states’ rights".

their being held hostage.

do as we say or were not giving federal funding for that bridge that's about to collapse.


Plenty money for pentagon and cia wasteful spending around the world robbing us all of the means to rebuild crumbling infrastructure.. roll eyes

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Aug 6, 2016 11:16 PM CST Say Anything
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
purr4mance: not vague but succinct.


President Obama, Minnesota Senators and the congressman from my district all get huge red marks for their vote for the dark act.. wink

This is the message I wrote to Obama from Hillary and the Daily Kos.. hmmm

No birthday present from me!

Realizing that your term is almost over without getting a handle on outright theft, waste and mismanagement of pentagon and cia programs! How much longer are we going to ignore crumbling US infrastructure and continue wasting billions of dollars, bankrupting our economy and our children's and grandchildren's future to fight endless undefined war? How many have already lost a good portion of promised future pension payments as we are turned over to the PBGC, acerbated by malfeasance by government and corporate leaders? Where is the money going if not into the pockets of ordinary people that believed in hope and change!? And where is the money coming from that will pay for the reduced benefits from the PBGC? Hope and Change were just your version of campaign lies and distortions, there is no transparency and I no longer believe you! And we're supposed to believe Clinton leadership(?) will save us? What a joke!

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Aug 6, 2016 11:28 PM CST Say Anything
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
bohemianjack: Plenty money for pentagon and cia wasteful spending around the world robbing us all of the means to rebuild crumbling infrastructure..



sure they have, but they've lost control and owe favors.

so it's get in line and we'll give you (the states) funds only if you say, tax the casino winnings at such and such rate.

it always seems to be this for that when states try and get funding.

the roads, especially around here are like skiing moguls due to salt. i wouldn't by a new car for anything.

i imagine up there you have the same problem.

infrastructure best be part of the plan for either of these two.
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Aug 6, 2016 11:40 PM CST Say Anything
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
bohemianjack: President Obama, Minnesota Senators and the congressman from my district all get huge red marks for their vote for the dark act..

This is the message I wrote to Obama from Hillary and the Daily Kos..

No birthday present from me!

Realizing that your term is almost over without getting a handle on outright theft, waste and mismanagement of pentagon and cia programs! How much longer are we going to ignore crumbling US infrastructure and continue wasting billions of dollars, bankrupting our economy and our children's and grandchildren's future to fight endless undefined war? How many have already lost a good portion of promised future pension payments as we are turned over to the PBGC, acerbated by malfeasance by government and corporate leaders? Where is the money going if not into the pockets of ordinary people that believed in hope and change!? And where is the money coming from that will pay for the reduced benefits from the PBGC? Hope and Change were just your version of campaign lies and distortions, there is no transparency and I no longer believe you! And we're supposed to believe Clinton leadership(?) will save us? What a joke!



sounds good bo. please let me know what the outcome is.

have you ever thought of getting involved at the local level and giving it your best shot at making some sort of impact?
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Aug 7, 2016 12:08 AM CST Say Anything
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
purr4mance: sounds good bo. please let me know what the outcome is.

have you ever thought of getting involved at the local level and giving it your best shot at making some sort of impact?


I told you before have been involved. And I did call the congressman's office and read his aid what I wrote on the legislation to restore voting rights as I got the standard answer that did not begin with Dear Jack! You might be able to tell I'm beyond disappointed with the process in a rigged system when politicians say one thing and do the exact opposite of what they know damn well is wrong to the nth degree!. Do you think I'll get a reply?.. wink


Restore the Voting Rights Act, and get rid of all barriers that prevent citizens from exercising their right to VOTE!

First things first, my personal experience. I have always attended caucus, except for the 2012 cycle when I felt left out because I couldn't stand the stuffy cologne, perfumed, chemical laden environment in the caucus place and wasn't allowed to just cast my straw ballot and go. For this 2016 caucus, when I saw lines 3 wide snaking through the hallways hundreds of feet to the commons area polling place, I thought 'OH HELL NO!' And I walked right past everyone there right up to the front, as there was no way that I would be denied the right to cast my ballot again, this year especially! I must say I have never voted republican, but longer story short, I must also say that I have not always voted for the preferred democrat either when it seems to be a choice between two evils. Fortunately I became bold enough for a few minutes this year and got to do what I had to do to VOTE. Also fortunate that I live in Minnesota where I didn't have to worry about some of the other BS and more nefarious situations others ran into all around the country.

All this and that said, beyond republican insistence on ridiculous measures like photo Id showing proof of residency, especially when so many people have been forced out of permanent residence, otherwise disadvantaged and have no residence, among other 'Show us your papers before proceeding to the next confusing step' measures like Non-Partisan Voters Are Receiving No-Party-Preference Ballots that Don’t Let Them Vote in the Presidential Primary. Voters Are Reporting Their Registrations Changed or Receiving the Wrong Ballots. Voter Registration Issues Have Been Reported All Over the Country, Including Arizona, New York, and More that the DNC used against Bernie Sanders supporters in particular. I read an article once that pretty much said our votes mean @@@@ as it's the electoral college that elects the president, and the people that decide who will be the electoral college have already decided who their preferred candidate will be. So you might be able to tell I'm well aware though beyond disappointed with the process and when the time comes to vote I certainly will, though I will reserve and preserve my right to cast my vote in protest rather than in support of the preferred candidate in a rigged system. Now, I've spent a considerable amount of time and effort to personalize this message. Extra credit as you reconsider importances and begin your reply 'Dear Jack' as my friends call me. It's not just a secret, sometimes words you regret most are words never said!

The right to vote is the cornerstone of our democracy. But when the Supreme Court gutted key portions of the Voting Rights Act in 2013, it opened the door to state laws that kept many Americans from exercising their right to be heard at the polls.
We're already seeing the disastrous impact of these anti-voter laws in states across the nation, including long lines, voter confusion, and eligible voters turned away on Election Day.

Please add your name as a cosponsor of the Voting Rights Advancement Act (S. 1659/H.R. 2867), and if you've already signed on, thank you for your leadership.

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Aug 7, 2016 12:12 AM CST Say Anything
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
purr4mance: i bought a new computer so it was already prepared or installed with 10.

the final date to download was last week.

it took only about fifteen minutes to install.

so i guess i lucked out.

good luck with your situation.


You did exactly what they wanted you to do, buy a new computer when the one you had would work just fine. Windows 7 will be supported until 2020 and I know I will have to replace it before then, but why should I do it now?

crazy crazy crazy
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Aug 7, 2016 12:19 AM CST Say Anything
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
for post #427...


yes bo, sounds good, but i think the level of response is going to directly depend on the number of signatures you're able to actually get.

majority is king and always rules with anything.

and yes, send it in, what are you waiting for?
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Aug 7, 2016 12:23 AM CST Say Anything
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
bohemianjack: You did exactly what they wanted you to do, buy a new computer when the one you had would work just fine. Windows 7 will be supported until 2020 and I know I will have to replace it before then, but why should I do it now?


no, it just so happens my other computer was already at least 15 years old if not older and i was do for another.

it had 10 installed and i could have stayed with 7 but decided to upgrade as it was free and would have cost over a 100 bucks if i let the time expire.

i'm happy with 10 as its running fine.
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Aug 7, 2016 12:28 AM CST Say Anything
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
bohemianjack: You did exactly what they wanted you to do, buy a new computer when the one you had would work just fine. Windows 7 will be supported until 2020 and I know I will have to replace it before then, but why should I do it now?


The microsoft upgrade said the reason my computer was not compatible was because the graphics system in the 4 year old HP desktop was not Win 10 compatible... 1 year newer and it may have worked.. beyond that I have plenty of ram and processor capacity, it's the DSL connection between the endpop 2 miles down the road and the central office 10 miles away. It's usually better during the week when there aren't so many kids laying on the computer while they should be outside when they're at the cabins around here. I'll try using the high speed from my cell phone as a hot spot cabled directly to my desktop in the next couple weeks here.
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Aug 7, 2016 12:30 AM CST Say Anything
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
purr4mance: no, it just so happens my other computer was already at least 15 years old if not older and i was do for another.

it had 10 installed and i could have stayed with 7 but decided to upgrade as it was free and would have cost over a 100 bucks if i let the time expire.

i'm happy with 10 as its running fine.


Jebus cripes any wonder, your old system was crap even for win7.. laugh
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