Trump To Signs Two Executive Orders: Ban Muslims & Build The Wall (150)
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Okay, it's just a fence in So. Cal.
A wall may help.
A wall may help.
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lifeisadream: Krema
I have seen your quoting wiki and the likes and I would many times to back up my ideas with some reference and if that is not ok for you, that is not my problem and I have not a desire to discuss it.
Regarding to the Ilegal drug dealing, it has two important ends:
1. The consumer in the biggest market of the world.
-with a ilegal trade of 100 billion dollars in USA per year-
2. The dealer
-including Mexican Drugs dealers yet not the only ones-
(and I am not part of either end)
The problem is way too big to deal with and the longer the govs (both USA and Mexico at least) take action the more harm it is causing not only in USA but in Mexico.
Crime related to illegal drugs is just unimaginable until you live it.
Let us please settle this down:
I do believe that both consumer and dealers of illegal drugs are both responsible of it and if you do not,
let us agree to disagree.
Thank for the beer yet I have never acquire a taste for it I would prefer a glass of table wine.
I have seen your quoting wiki and the likes and I would many times to back up my ideas with some reference and if that is not ok for you, that is not my problem and I have not a desire to discuss it.
Regarding to the Ilegal drug dealing, it has two important ends:
1. The consumer in the biggest market of the world.
-with a ilegal trade of 100 billion dollars in USA per year-
2. The dealer
-including Mexican Drugs dealers yet not the only ones-
(and I am not part of either end)
The problem is way too big to deal with and the longer the govs (both USA and Mexico at least) take action the more harm it is causing not only in USA but in Mexico.
Crime related to illegal drugs is just unimaginable until you live it.
Let us please settle this down:
I do believe that both consumer and dealers of illegal drugs are both responsible of it and if you do not,
let us agree to disagree.
Thank for the beer yet I have never acquire a taste for it I would prefer a glass of table wine.
Sure, quoting is fine and should be done, however, when you discard certain sources without even reading or watching, well..... How many times have you simply rejected even watching documentaries which were originally from the sources your do trust and your rejection was based only on the "argument" that they were on youtube?
The ones that you accuse of referring to "the wrong" sources are the usually the ones that follow both the established media and the media you do not like. I certainly do and find that the truth is most likely somewhere in the middle.
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lifeisadream: Krema
I have seen your quoting wiki and the likes and I would many times to back up my ideas with some reference and if that is not ok for you, that is not my problem and I have not a desire to discuss it.
Regarding to the Ilegal drug dealing, it has two important ends:
1. The consumer in the biggest market of the world.
-with a ilegal trade of 100 billion dollars in USA per year-
2. The dealer
-including Mexican Drugs dealers yet not the only ones-
(and I am not part of either end)
The problem is way too big to deal with and the longer the govs (both USA and Mexico at least) take action the more harm it is causing not only in USA but in Mexico.
Crime related to illegal drugs is just unimaginable until you live it.
Let us please settle this down:
I do believe that both consumer and dealers of illegal drugs are both responsible of it and if you do not,
let us agree to disagree.
Thank for the beer yet I have never acquire a taste for it I would prefer a glass of table wine.
I have seen your quoting wiki and the likes and I would many times to back up my ideas with some reference and if that is not ok for you, that is not my problem and I have not a desire to discuss it.
Regarding to the Ilegal drug dealing, it has two important ends:
1. The consumer in the biggest market of the world.
-with a ilegal trade of 100 billion dollars in USA per year-
2. The dealer
-including Mexican Drugs dealers yet not the only ones-
(and I am not part of either end)
The problem is way too big to deal with and the longer the govs (both USA and Mexico at least) take action the more harm it is causing not only in USA but in Mexico.
Crime related to illegal drugs is just unimaginable until you live it.
Let us please settle this down:
I do believe that both consumer and dealers of illegal drugs are both responsible of it and if you do not,
let us agree to disagree.
Thank for the beer yet I have never acquire a taste for it I would prefer a glass of table wine.
Of course you have seen me post something from Wikipedia, Life, just very few times as well...
I agree the drugs as any other illegal matter do rely on the demand...but the demand rises because the dealers are preying on new victims all the time...
But to get back to the problem with the illegal immigration...
It is true that your government has lost the plot with every major problem, the fact that 56% of the illegals in USA are Mexican speaks volumes, doesn't it?
I do hope that you agree the change should start from your own "home"?!
There is no other way...and when you achieve some good results then you can demand respect and equal rights for eased visa and work permit approval...
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KremaP: Of course you have seen me post something from Wikipedia, Life, just very few times as well...
I agree the drugs as any other illegal matter do rely on the demand...
but the demand rises because the dealers are preying on new victims all the time...Do you remotely think that the tons of illegal drugs that are sold in USA are sold by Mexican Drug dealers only?
But to get back to the problem with the illegal immigration...
It is true that your government has lost the plot with every major problem, the fact that 56% of the illegals in USA are Mexican speaks volumes, doesn't it?
Speaks that those lands were Mexico once.
Speaks that USA had requested "braceros" in the past.
(for this you must know some history of USA-Mexico)
Speaks that:
How is it possible that the most powerful country of the world -a country than spends one trillion in military- can NOT stop poor peasants being Mexican or any other nationality?
Those poor peasants enter USA because that is convenient for the American business and do not forget the other part, the Americans that hire them. Americans that are cheating to the IRS, pay lower wages and give not benefits to their undocumented workers
I do hope that you agree the change should start from your own "home"?!
The change, starts identifying the cause (s) of the problem and then you have to look at all the "homes"
There is no other way...and when you achieve some good results then you can demand respect and equal rights for eased visa and work permit approval.
I do not encourage undocumented migration to USA because I know what it has done to families here and we could go around this matter forever. .
I agree the drugs as any other illegal matter do rely on the demand...
but the demand rises because the dealers are preying on new victims all the time...Do you remotely think that the tons of illegal drugs that are sold in USA are sold by Mexican Drug dealers only?
But to get back to the problem with the illegal immigration...
It is true that your government has lost the plot with every major problem, the fact that 56% of the illegals in USA are Mexican speaks volumes, doesn't it?
Speaks that those lands were Mexico once.
Speaks that USA had requested "braceros" in the past.
(for this you must know some history of USA-Mexico)
Speaks that:
How is it possible that the most powerful country of the world -a country than spends one trillion in military- can NOT stop poor peasants being Mexican or any other nationality?
Those poor peasants enter USA because that is convenient for the American business and do not forget the other part, the Americans that hire them. Americans that are cheating to the IRS, pay lower wages and give not benefits to their undocumented workers
I do hope that you agree the change should start from your own "home"?!
The change, starts identifying the cause (s) of the problem and then you have to look at all the "homes"
There is no other way...and when you achieve some good results then you can demand respect and equal rights for eased visa and work permit approval.
I do not encourage undocumented migration to USA because I know what it has done to families here and we could go around this matter forever. .
Capricorn143: Sure, quoting is fine and should be done, however, when you discard certain sources without even reading or watching, well..... How many times have you simply rejected even watching documentaries which were originally from the sources your do trust and your rejection was based only on the "argument" that they were on youtube?
The ones that you accuse of referring to "the wrong" sources are the usually the ones that follow both the established media and the media you do not like. I certainly do and find that the truth is most likely somewhere in the middle.
The ones that you accuse of referring to "the wrong" sources are the usually the ones that follow both the established media and the media you do not like. I certainly do and find that the truth is most likely somewhere in the middle.
I have posted some youtube videos because I have never being able to post videos from other sources here in CS fora, I wonder if that can be possible.
I will give you an example:
I find something interesting in Nat Geo and there is a video and no way I can post it here, so I go to youtube (because I know everything is there: Fact or not) then I get that video that I am interested at and get the link from youtube. Yet, I do acknowledge that youtube is not source that I would trust unless I see the origen of the video.
Another example:
I would never consider "Pamela Geller" a reliable source she is twisted she does hate muslims,
I do not love Muslims but certainly I do not hate them.
Finally, I have never seen You and/or Krema citing any reference from a scientific journal or a more specialized magazine or any source that is not for the masses yet you could prove me wrong, could you?
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Aragorn11: I think LifeisADream posted a pic of a proposal for an alternative route for the wall which would give states back to Mexico
I would settle down with California
Any way Comrad has given his permit for Hillary to be the President of California
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We could use a "tamales" pot with a tight lid
We could use a "tamales" pot with a tight lid
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lifeisadream: I have posted some youtube videos because I have never being able to post videos from other sources here in CS fora, I wonder if that can be possible.
I will give you an example:
I find something interesting in Nat Geo and there is a video and no way I can post it here, so I go to youtube (because I know everything is there: Fact or not) then I get that video that I am interested at and get the link from youtube. Yet, I do acknowledge that youtube is not source that I would trust unless I see the origen of the video.
Another example:
I would never consider "Pamela Geller" a reliable source she is twisted she does hate muslims,
I do not love Muslims but certainly I do not hate them.
Finally, I have never seen You and/or Krema citing any reference from a scientific journal or a more specialized magazine or any source that is not for the masses yet you could prove me wrong, could you?
I will give you an example:
I find something interesting in Nat Geo and there is a video and no way I can post it here, so I go to youtube (because I know everything is there: Fact or not) then I get that video that I am interested at and get the link from youtube. Yet, I do acknowledge that youtube is not source that I would trust unless I see the origen of the video.
Another example:
I would never consider "Pamela Geller" a reliable source she is twisted she does hate muslims,
I do not love Muslims but certainly I do not hate them.
Finally, I have never seen You and/or Krema citing any reference from a scientific journal or a more specialized magazine or any source that is not for the masses yet you could prove me wrong, could you?
Life, I am talking about this exactly - I have posted youtube videos for the same reason, the video that were actually documentaries made by e.g. ZDF or BBC but you have never accepted that, you have always looked down upon youtube link even though I did tell you what the source was.
Pamela Geller - look down upon her as much as you want, she was the first to report on Cologne rapes! I know she adds a liitle flavour to the stories, but so does CNN and the co. - only they are more to your liking.
As for scientific journals - haha I do have to laugh about that, again your way of exerting superiority (I keep on forgetting that those who think differently are not educated and don't have a clue about anything), I have posted links to some researches, studies conducted by scientists, I have also posted official statistics, but alas, when they say something contrary to your beliefs, you just ignore them.
BTW - the academia today is totally out of touch with reality, so posting some pc BS is worse than posting Geller, she speaks from experience.
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SistaCallie:
. “We Berliners know better than most the pain caused when a whole continent is split by barbed wire and walls.”
. “We Berliners know better than most the pain caused when a whole continent is split by barbed wire and walls.”
Only idiots face two times with the same stone. This Trump is so illiterate that he must not even know that there was a wall in Berlin.
This wall would not only be totally useless and very expensive, but it is also impossible in some areas because of the typology of the land. Places where there are not routes to come up with vehicles.
I hope that sensible Americans keep him from this madness. At this rate they have to put limits because this insane guy is able to trigger a third world war.
So that this is not a strictly American topic, but that concerns us all those who inhabit this planet and hope that our children and grandchildren have a future.
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leonardo5: Only idiots face two times with the same stone. This Trump is so illiterate that he must not even know that there was a wall in Berlin.
This wall would not only be totally useless and very expensive, but it is also impossible in some areas because of the typology of the land. Places where there are not routes to come up with vehicles.
I hope that sensible Americans keep him from this madness. At this rate they have to put limits because this insane guy is able to trigger a third world war.
So that this is not a strictly American topic, but that concerns us all those who inhabit this planet and hope that our children and grandchildren have a future.
This wall would not only be totally useless and very expensive, but it is also impossible in some areas because of the typology of the land. Places where there are not routes to come up with vehicles.
I hope that sensible Americans keep him from this madness. At this rate they have to put limits because this insane guy is able to trigger a third world war.
So that this is not a strictly American topic, but that concerns us all those who inhabit this planet and hope that our children and grandchildren have a future.
Mexico has a huge fence/wall on their southern border, and we were promised our
wall 15 years ago,,, so thats the name of that tune whether you anarchists like it or not.
mexican federales west of the rio dont even know they're on our property,,,
cartels with dope and weapons cross back and forth at will daily.
old saying;
border fences make good neighbors
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Capricorn143: Life, I am talking about this exactly - I have posted youtube videos for the same reason, the video that were actually documentaries made by e.g. ZDF or BBC but you have never accepted that, you have always looked down upon youtube link even though I did tell you what the source was.
Pamela Geller - look down upon her as much as you want, she was the first to report on Cologne rapes! I know she adds a liitle flavour to the stories, but so does CNN and the co. - only they are more to your liking.
As for scientific journals - haha I do have to laugh about that, again your way of exerting superiority
did you run out of ideas Lindsey? even if kookooo ideas?
(I keep on forgetting that those who think differently are not educated and don't have a clue about anything),
I have posted links to some researches, studies conducted by scientists,
prove it
I have also posted official statistics, but alas, when they say something contrary to your beliefs, you just ignore them.
BTW - the academia today is totally out of touch with reality, so posting some pc BS is worse than posting Geller, she speaks from experience.
Pamela Geller - look down upon her as much as you want, she was the first to report on Cologne rapes! I know she adds a liitle flavour to the stories, but so does CNN and the co. - only they are more to your liking.
As for scientific journals - haha I do have to laugh about that, again your way of exerting superiority
did you run out of ideas Lindsey? even if kookooo ideas?
(I keep on forgetting that those who think differently are not educated and don't have a clue about anything),
I have posted links to some researches, studies conducted by scientists,
prove it
I have also posted official statistics, but alas, when they say something contrary to your beliefs, you just ignore them.
BTW - the academia today is totally out of touch with reality, so posting some pc BS is worse than posting Geller, she speaks from experience.
"the academia today is totally out of touch with reality"
Do you have any idea of what you are talking about?
The academia?
which academia?
The whole world's academia?
Can you back up your comment?
Which para-meters are you taking into consideration in order for you to make that statement?
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2/3rd's of all US universities are infiltrated by little billy ayers/
bernadine dohrn weather underground styled anarchist professors
who only teach the home grown marxist agenda...
stupid kids cant even get a job...no one will hire them but moveon.org; or the
open society foundation or some other subversive non productive non profit org.
bernadine dohrn weather underground styled anarchist professors
who only teach the home grown marxist agenda...
stupid kids cant even get a job...no one will hire them but moveon.org; or the
open society foundation or some other subversive non productive non profit org.
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KremaP: I think your president should start doing something for your people Life, instead of playing insulted by a country who had enough of your drug dealers smuggling non stop drugs and weapons.
Who is to blame at first place?
Let's be honest, the clean up should start from your own grounds, education, jobs and so on...
Who is to blame at first place?
Let's be honest, the clean up should start from your own grounds, education, jobs and so on...
The drugs are coming from all over, not just Mexico, and the weapons are actually going south of the border, not north. Not to mention all of the American involvement in the drug trade, including the CIA. Guess who invented crack, and now has control of the opium fields in Afghanistan. Solely blaming the Mexicans for the drug problem is far from accurate. They've just become a convenient scapegoat here, politically, and on the forums apparently. It's a much bigger issue than what you're making it out to be.
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kidatheart: The drugs are coming from all over, not just Mexico, and the weapons are actually going south of the border, not north. Not to mention all of the American involvement in the drug trade, including the CIA. Guess who invented crack, and now has control of the opium fields in Afghanistan. Solely blaming the Mexicans for the drug problem is far from accurate. They've just become a convenient scapegoat here, politically, and on the forums apparently. It's a much bigger issue than what you're making it out to be.
K & K are both right, but kiddo you just dont see the MS13,LosZetas,Sinaloans,latin lions and the havoc the cartels and their bankster money launderers have reeked all over the south due to puppet obozo's global orders to keep the shyyt flowin, blowin and goin...
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crayons: K & K are both right, but kiddo you just dont see the MS13,LosZetas,Sinaloans,latin lions and the havoc the cartels and their bankster money launderers have reeked all over the south due to puppet obozo's global orders to keep the shyyt flowin, blowin and goin...
I've seen some of it, being that I've traveled all across the southern US from Mississippi west, and been to a few of those states more than once. I also have a brother that works in the medical field in Cali. and he sees the "damage" on a daily basis, so I also hear what goes on as well.
There's been gov't involvement in the trade since the 60's, between heroin and coke at a minimum, and likely the rest as well. If they wanted those cartels out of business, if the "war on drugs" was real, it would have ended a long time ago. Simple fact that it hasn't is, because it's far too lucrative.
Besides, how else would the CIA fund all those covert actions and overthrow gov'ts around the world? Do you think Congress would give them all that money, they'd have to be accountable.
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kidatheart:
Besides, how else would the CIA fund all those covert actions and overthrow gov'ts around the world? Do you think Congress would give them all that money, they'd have to be accountable.
Besides, how else would the CIA fund all those covert actions and overthrow gov'ts around the world? Do you think Congress would give them all that money, they'd have to be accountable.
al'cia'da wont go away quietly...thats the fact jack,,, but now hezbolah is involved in the drug trade as well...
they are intrenched in mexico's dindu sharia heroin tax now...the rabbit trail just gets deeper.
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crayons: al'cia'da wont go away quietly...thats the fact jack,,, but now hezbolah is involved in the drug trade as well...
they are intrenched in mexico's dindu sharia heroin tax now...the rabbit trail just gets deeper.
they are intrenched in mexico's dindu sharia heroin tax now...the rabbit trail just gets deeper.
Ahh no, they won't, they know where all the bodies are, nobody is going to go after them.
They always have been, don't you remember the good ol' Lebanese blonde hash from the early to late 80's?
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kidatheart: Ahh no, they won't, they know where all the bodies are, nobody is going to go after them.
They always have been, don't you remember the good ol' Lebanese blonde hash from the early to late 80's?
back then i worked for NOPD, it was all about the cuff and stuff routine...though i metThey always have been, don't you remember the good ol' Lebanese blonde hash from the early to late 80's?
players who today are deceased and only in black and white documentaries,except for a few
that are still alive and captured on film.
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lifeisadream: I have posted some youtube videos because I have never being able to post videos from other sources here in CS fora, I wonder if that can be possible.
I will give you an example:
I find something interesting in Nat Geo and there is a video and no way I can post it here, so I go to youtube (because I know everything is there: Fact or not) then I get that video that I am interested at and get the link from youtube. Yet, I do acknowledge that youtube is not source that I would trust unless I see the origen of the video.
Another example:
I would never consider "Pamela Geller" a reliable source she is twisted she does hate muslims,
I do not love Muslims but certainly I do not hate them.
Finally, I have never seen You and/or Krema citing any reference from a scientific journal or a more specialized magazine or any source that is not for the masses yet you could prove me wrong, could you?
I will give you an example:
I find something interesting in Nat Geo and there is a video and no way I can post it here, so I go to youtube (because I know everything is there: Fact or not) then I get that video that I am interested at and get the link from youtube. Yet, I do acknowledge that youtube is not source that I would trust unless I see the origen of the video.
Another example:
I would never consider "Pamela Geller" a reliable source she is twisted she does hate muslims,
I do not love Muslims but certainly I do not hate them.
Finally, I have never seen You and/or Krema citing any reference from a scientific journal or a more specialized magazine or any source that is not for the masses yet you could prove me wrong, could you?
What does a scientific journal means Life, isn't Wikipedia one of the most reliable sources as the information is provided exactly by scientists, historians and so on professionals?!
But most important of all is the personal experience and denying the fact that some people know better than you is ridiculous..
And why do we go around in circles and talk anything but the main topic, the wall and why it is so needed to stop Mexican and other Latin American illegal immigration...?! And I repeat Illegal, Life, not everyone...
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