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Jan 14, 2019 6:35 PM CST Proud to be European.................
charles_nz
charles_nzcharles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 Posts
pedro27: Isn't Europe a big family ?

I feel so connected to our European friends, so many cultures connected as one......

we can feel at home on a holiday knowing we are welcomed, sure that just great..!

viva la EU
I am a Europhile, and for this reason, I am strongly against the EU.

I actually like the differences in culture and language and don't want them ironed out by some grey superstate that is basically the reincarnation of the Soviet Union.
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Jan 15, 2019 5:53 AM CST Proud to be European.................
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
charles_nz: I am a Europhile, and for this reason, I am strongly against the EU.

I actually like the differences in culture and language and don't want them ironed out by some grey superstate that is basically the reincarnation of the Soviet Union.
The system is global capitalist and you’ll run out of steam eventually harping on about the Soviet Union. Most people are rebelling against the EU to defend the welfare state from, its one thing to lie about £350 million extre a week for the NHS and another to want the NHS to go bankrupt because you hate everything the NHS stands for. The minority of ideologues who hate everything the NHS stands for damage Brexit and help the EU.
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Jan 15, 2019 6:18 AM CST Proud to be European.................
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
And it matters factually because today we are left and right in every way the Soviet Union wasn’t.

Slavic women are feminine the Soviets were socially conservative and they even had a wall. Nobody from the popular right is complaining that the gap between rich and poor isn’t large enough in no sense are we rebelling against the Soviet Union it looked nothing like the world we live in.
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Jan 15, 2019 6:34 AM CST Proud to be European.................
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
If i could my finger on what Brexit and Trump want/need it’s more stability and fewer gimics. I’m not singing the praises of the Soviet Union but we do want precisely the opposite of what the Slavs got by ditching the Soviet Union, they lost all stability and gained the goods.

We’re tired of doing any mad thing you want and would gladly limit choice to make the country great again. The rebels are in every sense less liberal than the establishment and the Soviet Union was illiberal in every way.
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Jan 15, 2019 9:03 AM CST Proud to be European.................
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
The one and only way in which I’d class the rebels as being more liberal than the establishment is free speech but I reckon that’s because it’s the opposition, it would be a very foolish voice of dissent that chooses to oppose free speech.

In reality however I don’t believe there’s a lot of difference between the two sides. Who has the patient for free speech(particularly in America)? Criticising a snowflake will produce more or less the same result as criticising Donald Trump.
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Jan 15, 2019 9:15 AM CST Proud to be European.................
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Jan 15, 2019 9:24 AM CST Proud to be European.................
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
And yet it is more striking when the supposedly better educated are against free speech. A glorious European achievement like free speech is imperilled most when it’s your professionals opposing it, not the football fans. The streetwise and the working class are quite stifling and repressed at the best of times, standing out in any way often ends with a punch in the face. It’s less wrong when they’re the ones forcing rather than persuading.
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Jan 15, 2019 10:10 AM CST Proud to be European.................
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
pedro27: the EU is better to part of for many reasons.

seems your labour party there want a second referendum on the latest news channel?
Not true
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Jan 15, 2019 10:27 AM CST Proud to be European.................
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
jimgi: The subject,that YOU brought up, is Irish history. I can promise you that you know nothing about, because if you did, you really should too embarassed to mention it.

The other fact, (N.I woting to stay in the E.U.) you're staying strangely quiet about. Now be a good boy & publicly apologise to all the U.K citizens in N.I. for spreading lies in order to suit your own agenda.
Do Scotland as well while you're at it.
The United Kingdom as a whole voted overwhelmingly to dump Europe.
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Jan 15, 2019 10:28 AM CST Proud to be European.................
donal63
donal63donal63letterkenny, Donegal Ireland2 Threads 2,252 Posts
pedro27: Isn't Europe a big family ?

I feel so connected to our European friends, so many cultures connected as one......

we can feel at home on a holiday knowing we are welcomed, sure that just great..!

viva la EU
better together,my old mate david cameron said sothumbs up
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Jan 15, 2019 10:30 AM CST Proud to be European.................
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
jimgi: Can't say I'm disappointed with your reply.
It's pretty much all I'd expect from you.
Now all we have to do is figure out how to dump Eire
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Jan 15, 2019 2:54 PM CST Proud to be European.................
charles_nz
charles_nzcharles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 Posts
ChesneyChrist: And it matters factually because today we are left and right in every way the Soviet Union wasn’t.

Slavic women are feminine the Soviets were socially conservative and they even had a wall.
Their walls were to keep people in, not to keep people out.

But yes, Eastern Europe is frankly the last hope for Western Civilization, ironically partly due to the legacy of communism. Certainly communism was an evil thing, but in some ways, they did us a favour. They preserved a large part of Europe in a kind of time warp, where the values of the past have clung on more tenaciously than they have in Western Europe. To put it bluntly, the liberalism of Western Europe was more effective at destroying Christianity and Western Civilization that was communism. And for this, we should be grateful to the communists.
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Jan 15, 2019 2:56 PM CST Proud to be European.................
charles_nz
charles_nzcharles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 Posts
aries1234: Now all we have to do is figure out how to dump Eire
No doubt you also want to dump Scotland, dump Wales, dump Cornwall, dump the North East.........
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