What might be classified as extra problems with those who have lost someone besides just the loss are guilt, anger, lonliness, isolation, impatience to replace the loss one and other symptoms. Anger at self, God and anyone within range. Guilt of maybe you could have done something to prevent it, guilt that is was your fault and guilt of arguments wth spouse before they died, Lonliness because you were used to having someone and you feel you are punished by being alone. Isolation because they are not there and so you close down and punish yourself by not getting out to be with others because you feel like the grim reaper. It feels different than divorce because you with that person when they died. You feel like, hey, why did this happen to me. I was good and now I am alone anyways. 5 months widowed here. Still trying to deal with it.
Mary-Ann told me the crying is normal and she sent me this:
Listen
When I ask you to listen to me and you start giving me advice you have not done what I asked.
When I ask you to listen to me and you begin to tell me why I shouldn't feel that way, you are trampling on my feelings.
When I ask you to listen to me and you feel you have to do something to solve my problem, you have failed me, strange as that may seem. I'm glad you managed to get out of the house. This is a good thing. I know that there was a point where I was becoming a recluse. I didn't mind because I didn't have to deal with other people. I didn't have to explain, or listen to things that I didn't care about. But I realized that this was not healthy for me or my boys. I do try and get out. At least to one person's house. But they have there own issues. I don't mind being alone I just don't like being lonely. If it was up to me to do the dinner parties invite people over for coffee,well, people would be waiting a long time. I find it better if they just drop in. I let them know that it's either a good time or a bad time. Depends on who it is. Some people just don't get the hint. I enjoy it when my boys have company.Then I don't feel so guilty for not doing much with them. It's raining here today and yesterday and probably tomorrow. But that's what makes this province green.
Listen! All I asked, was that you listen. Not talk or do - just hear me.
Advice is cheap: 10 cents will get you both Dear Abby and Billy Graham in the same newspaper.
And I can do for myself; I'm not helpless. Maybe discouraged and faltering, but not helpless.
When you do something for me that I can and need to do for myself, you contribute to my fear and weakness.
But, when you accept as a simple fact that I do feel what I feel, no matter how irrational, then I can quit trying to convince you and can get about the business of understanding what's behind this irrational feeling. And when that's clear, the answers are obvious and I don't need advice.
Irrational feelings make sense when we understand what's behind them.
Perhaps that's why prayer works, sometimes, for some people because God is mute and he doesn't give advice or try to fix things. "They" just listen and let you work it out for yourself..
So, please listen and just hear me. And, if you want to talk, wait a minute for your turn and I'll listen to you.
Anonymous
I also have another one that I liked .
GRIEF IS LIKE A RIVER
My grief is like a river- I have to let it flow, But I myself determine Just where the banks will go.
Some days the current takes me In waves of quilt and pain, But there are always quiet pools Where I can rest again.
I crash on rocks of anger- Muy faith seems faint indeed, But there are other swimmers Who know that what I need.
Are loving hands to hold me When the waters are too swift, And someone kind to listen When i just seem to drift.
Grief's river is a process Of relinquishing the past. By swimming in Hope's channels I'll reach the shore at last.
Cynthia G. Kelley
Some real sweet words that seem to help. I read it and have been studying it.
Roy, I did not lose a spouse in a legal marriage but I did lose my better half in '96. I would have been fine to curl up in the fetal position in a corner for the remainder of my life. You are doing fine.
You're 5 months into this huge life change? You're fine. You're doing as well as anyone else does.
Do not expect too much from yourself, do not berate yourself for grieving. It's a lengthy process, not to be rushed or done by some textbook standards. Your relationship and your pain is your own. It was and is unique, not to be compared to anyone else's, or understood by anyone else.
Cling to and pay attention to you bad days. They were a release for me, another step closer to being healthy. To go into constant battle with yourself to let go is foolish and useless. The loss will always be there. Even unhealthy feelings such as guilt will arise forever. But there will come a time when you recognize them as needless, false guilty feelings.
You will rise above. You won't see that now, but don't look too hard. It will come.
Roy time trully does heal all wounds,regardless how you may feel at this time.And Roy always remember that your memories are one of the few things that no one can ever take from you,and this will be the gift you come to treasure most.Your intitled to have your moments,and will again,your human and have emotions,would be worried if you didn't.
Hey Roy, So sorry for your loss. I'm with Crash on this . It's only been 5 months you say...That's not very long. I think you are doing great. The average grieving process, so the experts say takes an average of 1 year. That doesn't mean things are fine after a year but hopfully yo'll be coming to some kind of terms with it and be able to deal with the daily stuff a little better. My heart goes out to you. Hang in there and keep expressing yourself. talking about it is half the battle some people can't even do that. Lilly
Roy.. I am truly and deeply sorry for your loss. I lost my fiance' 3 years ago, and I completely shut down, as if I died with him. I felt all the things you talked of, I was so mad at myself and mad at God. I have folder after folder of poems that I have written about my life with him, and that was my way, I guess, of crawling out of that hole. Time is a great friend, I didn't believe it then, but I do now. Sending you a friendly hug, cuz I wish someone would've sent me one back then.
I want to thank each and everyone of you for understanding. I would love to see those poems that were mentioned. Mary-Ann has been such a comfort that I can't even express in words. I felt so unique in here until she started sharing with me. I feel so glad the loss can be compared to the divorce and to other losses as well. Acceptness was in important to me when I kicked alcohol and drugs back in November 11, 1983. Acceptness is important to me in this grieving thing. Acceptness is important to me in the harm I cause others now and then and even between. Acceptness was important to me when my ex said we lived in different worlds. Acceptness was important to me when Rosemary died after Dottie did. Acceptness as you can see is very important to me but so is awareness. I made a promise back in 11/11/1983 to not burn any bridges. I have tried to keep that promise in word and in deed. I thank all of you for sharing with me. In the words of the Salvation Army who helped me so much when I hitch hiked all over the United States and who gave a haven in the storm and even gave me jobs at different times; "Sharing is caring". Thanks so much for listening to me.
My heart is with you Roy as I lost my wife and two children in a house fire, three years ago... I can understand how you feel and as it's only been 5 months you must feel very raw.
You are dong the right thing by talking, as I withdrew from life and went insane with grief... I wish now that I had seeked help and had not isolated myself.
Your welcome to email me if you wish to talk and keep talking to your friend as she sounds very understanding. The pain will become bearable with time but for now stick with your friends and maybe seek some sort of grief counseling.
Twice Roy. I just went through my usual low spot over the Valentines week. I lost my last husband on Feb. 12th, and buried him the day after Valentines Day. I do understand the grieving process. Mine just happens to carry on and on and on. I do pretty well for the most part, but at those times of the year, I just get blue and drag my feet. I hope you get back to feeling better and make good progress. Kat
Roy, I too am a Widow. I lost my husband to lung cancer. We were engaged and he was diagnosed, so we got married right away. I took care of him for the 11 months he lived on chemo. I still miss him so much. He died in December of 2002 but it seems like yesterday sometimes. I haven't had much luck replacing him - I compare every man to him and they all seem to be lacking. Who knows when that will change. But know that the feeling of utter lonliness and dispair gets less and less with time although there are still days when I just burst into tears for no reason. There are times when a guy will be nice to me and it just sends me to tears. Nothing you can do but take it one day at a time and cherish their memory.
I love you Tom, I always will--you were my true love and I miss you!
hi roy, I lost my husband 2 years ago and the greiving is a very hard process but you will get through with the help of friends,family and God. Roy I know of a website you can go to if you need to talk to people in the same boat as we are it is
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