Circlip: What sort of "feminist crap" have women been brainwashed with?
And what is their role in a relationship?
As for all the other stuff, well so you say, but I don't know about any of it.
All I can say is that if I were looking for someone to enter into a relationship with, it wouldn't even occur to me to think in terms of anything other than Western women.
But I really would like to hear what you've got to say about the feminism and the woman's role.
I asked you about the advantages of date if a western woman as a pose to an Eastern European one & you haven’t given me one , other than to say your preference is a western women . Maybe if you dated both , you may have a clearer perspective as to preference , without being submissive.
Youcannow: I asked you about the advantages of DATING a western woman as a pose to an Eastern European one & you haven’t given me one , other than to say your preference is a western women . Maybe if you dated both , you may have a clearer perspective as to preference , without being submissive.
CirclipNottingham, Nottinghamshire, England UK826 posts
Youcannow: I asked you about the advantages of date if a western woman as a pose to an Eastern European one & you haven’t given me one , other than to say your preference is a western women . Maybe if you dated both , you may have a clearer perspective as to preference , without being submissive.
Well I wouldn't be interested in a relationship with somebody who felt they had to be obedient. I wouldn't be intending to start a family at my age, so "role" is irrelevant. I certainly wouldn't find being in a relationship with someone who didn't have a mind of her own satisfying. I don't know; it seems that the things I would value, you would reject.
I think most men have a tendency to dominate if they can get away with it, and I would prefer someone who didn't let me get away with it.
Circlip: Well I wouldn't be interested in a relationship with somebody who felt they had to be obedient. I wouldn't be intending to start a family at my age, so "role" is irrelevant. I certainly wouldn't find being in a relationship with someone who didn't have a mind of her own satisfying. I don't know; it seems that the things I would value, you would reject.
I think most men have a tendency to dominate if they can get away with it, and I would prefer someone who didn't let me get away with it.
You really don’t have a clue about Eastern European women . They are no less intelligent than western women , but value a mans role in a relationship. I think your comment is ignorant & very stereotypical of someone who’s never been in a relationship outside his own county.
CirclipNottingham, Nottinghamshire, England UK826 posts
Youcannow: You really don’t have a clue about Eastern European women .
I don't suppose I do have a clue, why would I?
Youcannow: They are no less intelligent than western women , but value a mans role in a relationship.
I'm sure there is no difference in intelligence. We would both have the same role, and our roles would be spending time together, which we would both value, or there wouldn't be any point to it.
Youcannow: I think your comment is ignorant & very stereotypical of someone who’s never been in a relationship outside his own county.
Youcannow: You really don’t have a clue about Eastern European women . They are no less intelligent than western women , but value a mans role in a relationship. I think your comment is ignorant & very stereotypical of someone who’s never been in a relationship outside his own county.
I'd have to say living in the states for years and dating American men was an eye opener for me the difference would make you think, they could definitely teach the men in western Europe a thing or two about the value of the woman in a relationship or role as you put it!! Manners for a start... unassuming
irish78eyes: I'd have to say living in the states for years and dating American men was an eye opener for me the difference would make you think, they could definitely teach the men in western Europe a thing or two about the value of the woman in a relationship or role as you put it!! Manners for a start... unassuming
Circlip: I don't suppose I do have a clue, why would I?
I'm sure there is no difference in intelligence. We would both have the same role, and our roles would be spending time together, which we would both value, or there wouldn't be any point to it.
That's a joke, right?
No. Not really. If I was a Eastern European woman , I would be very offended by your stereotyping . In fact , you can go by the comments made on here by the second language women from the eastern part of Europe, and a few loud mouth western women , who use obscene language as an adjective as a comparison. The difference is , that Eastern European women know how it be a lady & are proud of that fact .
irish78eyes: I'd have to say living in the states for years and dating American men was an eye opener for me the difference would make you think, they could definitely teach the men in western Europe a thing or two about the value of the woman in a relationship or role as you put it!! Manners for a start... unassuming
So if that’s true , from your experience, why does the USA have the highest divorce rate worldwide?
CirclipNottingham, Nottinghamshire, England UK826 posts
Youcannow: No. Not really. If I was a Eastern European woman , I would be very offended by your stereotyping .
I have admitted that I don't know much about Eastern European women, therefore I am in no position to comment on them. If I haven't characterised them, how is it possible that I have stereotyped them?
Youcannow: In fact , you can go by the comments made on here by the second language women from the eastern part of Europe, and a few loud mouth western women , who use obscene language as an adjective as a comparison.
Now that's stereotyping, and if I were a Western woman, I would be very offended.
Youcannow: The difference is , that Eastern European women know how it be a lady & are proud of that fact .
Well why don't you just get yourself an Eastern European lady and remain a gentleman by not deliberately trying to offend the women from your own country?
Circlip: I have admitted that I don't know much about Eastern European women, therefore I am in no position to comment on them. If I haven't characterised them, how is it possible that I have stereotyped them?
Now that's stereotyping, and if I were a Western woman, I would be very offended.
Well why don't you just get yourself an Eastern European lady and remain a gentleman by not deliberately trying to offend the women from your own country?
The difference is : I’ve made a judgement because of experience , whereas you stereotyped out of ignorance.
The difference between us is that you are too quick to belittle the less fortunate, generally the males on the forums , yet you become a puppy dog when it comes to women . Your argumentative attitude towards some people is typical of someone with a duel personality & it’s apparent by your replies to me.
CirclipNottingham, Nottinghamshire, England UK826 posts
Youcannow: The difference is : I’ve made a judgement because of experience , whereas you stereotyped out of ignorance.
I haven't stereotyped anybody, and I suspect that you only think I have because you don't know what the word means.
Youcannow: The difference between us is that you are too quick to belittle the less fortunate, generally the males on the forums ,
Well let's be honest, some of the males on this forum deserve belittling. I mean, just look at you, and your atrocious attitude towards women.
Youcannow: yet you become a puppy dog when it comes to women .
Whatever I become when it comes to women, I become because that's what they bring out in me. What's wrong with that?
Youcannow: Your argumentative attitude towards some people is typical of someone with a duel personality & it’s apparent by your replies to me.
My conduct is probably symptomatic of some sort of personality disorder, but the more precise diagnosis of "dual personality", whatever that means, is a bit beyond your scope to make, if you don't mind my saying.
Circlip: I haven't stereotyped anybody, and I suspect that you only think I have because you don't know what the word means.
Well let's be honest, some of the males on this forum deserve belittling. I mean, just look at you, and your atrocious attitude towards women.
Whatever I become when it comes to women, I become because that's what they bring out in me. What's wrong with that?
My conduct is probably symptomatic of some sort of personality disorder, but the more precise diagnosis of "dual personality", whatever that means, is a bit beyond your scope to make, if you don't mind my saying.
Refer to post 144. Regarding stereotyping.
You’ve yet to give me a reason as to the advantages western women have over their eastern counterparts .
CirclipNottingham, Nottinghamshire, England UK826 posts
Youcannow: Refer to post 144. Regarding stereotyping.
You’ve yet to give me a reason as to the advantages western women have over their eastern counterparts .
Your act of ascribing a particular set of qualities to a particular set of people is stereotyping, I was only responding to your description of the qualities you claim that Eastern European women have, but that doesn't mean I accept that Eastern European women have those qualities.
I am not claiming that Western women have any "advantages" over their eastern counterparts. If the difference that you perceive between those two sets leaves you feeling that you prefer one over the other, then that is a choice you are free to make. Someone else might make the opposite choice. It isn't a case of which has the most advantages, it is purely a matter of personal preference.
I don't think there is anything at all wrong in your singing the praises of Eastern women, I just don't think you need to denigrate Western women in order to do that.
Circlip: Your act of ascribing a particular set of qualities to a particular set of people is stereotyping, I was only responding to your description of the qualities you claim that Eastern European women have, but that doesn't mean I accept that Eastern European women have those qualities.
I am not claiming that Western women have any "advantages" over their eastern counterparts. If the difference that you perceive between those two sets leaves you feeling that you prefer one over the other, then that is a choice you are free to make. Someone else might make the opposite choice. It isn't a case of which has the most advantages, it is purely a matter of personal preference.
I don't think there is anything at all wrong in your singing the praises of Eastern women, I just don't think you need to denigrate Western women in order to do that.
How is my personal preference denigrating western women ? Having dated both , I feel that non western women wouldn’t suit my personality. Maybe I have more traditional values when it comes to women in general . I didn’t say western women are inferior, in fact , I’ve dated countless, but as far as long term is concerned, I just don’t see a future .
I asked which would people prefer , which is a reasonable question to ask on an international dating site , of which you haven’t answered, nor can you , having not dated both .
CirclipNottingham, Nottinghamshire, England UK826 posts
Youcannow: How is my personal preference denigrating western women ?
Throughout the course of this thread, you have made several negative comments about Western women, that is why I said you were denigrating them.
Youcannow: Having dated both , I feel that non western women wouldn’t suit my personality. Maybe I have more traditional values when it comes to women in general .
You see, I don't "date" women, I never really have done, so I am not going to try to tell you which women make the best dating partners. I was married for most of my adult life, and I haven't been in any kind of relationship since then, so I am not claiming any kind of knowledge from experience. It just dismayed me a bit to see your criticisms of what you call Western women.
Youcannow: I asked which would people prefer , which is a reasonable question to ask on an international dating site , of which you haven’t answered, nor can you , having not dated both .
Well I don't expect to be embarking on a dating career, so I don't really need to have a preference. If I do meet someone who turns out to be a companion in my old age, it is most likely that it will be someone of my own culture, rather than an eastern one, and I'm happy with that prospect.
Circlip: What sort of "feminist crap" have women been brainwashed with?
And what is their role in a relationship?
As for all the other stuff, well so you say, but I don't know about any of it.
All I can say is that if I were looking for someone to enter into a relationship with, it wouldn't even occur to me to think in terms of anything other than Western women.
But I really would like to hear what you've got to say about the feminism and the woman's role.
JMO To take care of their men and be a good mother
Circlip: Any woman who has children also has the responsibility to be a good mother, but I don't know what you mean by "take care of their men".
The main one to make sure their sock do not stink and do not have holes. To make sure there is always a food prepared. First you feed men then you can talk to them
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And what is their role in a relationship?
As for all the other stuff, well so you say, but I don't know about any of it.
All I can say is that if I were looking for someone to enter into a relationship with, it wouldn't even occur to me to think in terms of anything other than Western women.
But I really would like to hear what you've got to say about the feminism and the woman's role.
Maybe if you dated both , you may have a clearer perspective as to preference , without being submissive.