Trust is the backbone of life. ( Archived) (15)

Nov 21, 2022 5:03 PM CST Trust is the backbone of life.
Decent_Love
Decent_LoveDecent_LovePrayagraj, Uttar Pradesh India411 Threads 3 Polls 2,056 Posts
Trust/Belief/faith

What do you think about Trust?

In my view, Trust is the backbone of life.

The heart runs on faith and the mind runs on logic.

When logic breaks down, the mind does not suffer as much as the heart does when trust is broken.

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Nov 21, 2022 5:06 PM CST Trust is the backbone of life.
When trust is broken everything dies.
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Nov 21, 2022 5:19 PM CST Trust is the backbone of life.
Decent_Love
Decent_LoveDecent_LovePrayagraj, Uttar Pradesh India411 Threads 3 Polls 2,056 Posts
Coldheaven: When trust is broken everything dies.
Because trust is the backbone, what would life be like if the backbone is broken.
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Nov 21, 2022 5:21 PM CST Trust is the backbone of life.
Decent_Love: Because trust is the backbone, what would life be like if the backbone is broken.
When the backbone is broken you are crippled
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Nov 21, 2022 5:23 PM CST Trust is the backbone of life.
Friendship4ever
Friendship4everFriendship4everSan Bernardino, California USA2 Threads 1,466 Posts
Coldheaven: When trust is broken everything dies.
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Nov 21, 2022 5:25 PM CST Trust is the backbone of life.
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
Decent_Love: Trust/Belief/faith

What do you think about Trust?

In my view, Trust is the backbone of life.

The heart runs on faith and the mind runs on logic.

When logic breaks down, the mind does not suffer as much as the heart does when trust is broken.
Trust is a funny thing you alone expose yourself to...how trustworthy can you prove the trusted....?confused
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Nov 21, 2022 5:51 PM CST Trust is the backbone of life.
Decent_Love
Decent_LoveDecent_LovePrayagraj, Uttar Pradesh India411 Threads 3 Polls 2,056 Posts
spikkels999: Trust is a funny thing you alone expose yourself to...how trustworthy can you prove the trusted....?
There is no logic of trust. Trust and logic are like two tracks of a train which run side by side but never meet each other. If both ever try to meet then the train of life will be derailed.
That's why there should always be a balance between logic and trust, only then the train of life will be able to run fast upon it.
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Nov 21, 2022 6:04 PM CST Trust is the backbone of life.
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
Decent_Love: There is no logic of trust. Trust and logic are like two tracks of a train which run side by side but never meet each other. If both ever try to meet then the train of life will be derailed.
That's why there should always be a balance between logic and trust, only then the train of life will be able to run fast upon it.
hmmm Very interesting perspective...
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Nov 21, 2022 6:08 PM CST Trust is the backbone of life.
Decent_Love
Decent_LoveDecent_LovePrayagraj, Uttar Pradesh India411 Threads 3 Polls 2,056 Posts
Didi7: Very interesting perspective...
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Nov 22, 2022 8:44 AM CST Trust is the backbone of life.
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Decent_Love: Because trust is the backbone, what would life be like if the backbone is broken.
A police state. The police and the people who like the police are the people you don't trust because that's the whole point of their existence - that you can't trust people.
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Nov 22, 2022 8:49 AM CST Trust is the backbone of life.
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
Decent_Love: There is no logic of trust. Trust and logic are like two tracks of a train which run side by side but never meet each other. If both ever try to meet then the train of life will be derailed.
That's why there should always be a balance between logic and trust, only then the train of life will be able to run fast upon it.
Life experience dictates common sense...?wink
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Nov 22, 2022 8:53 AM CST Trust is the backbone of life.
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Give everyone the benefit of the doubt apart from those whose purpose in life is to be suspicious of everyone they meet. Never ever trust those who are suspicious of everyone they meet, they're the least amongst us.
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Nov 22, 2022 8:58 AM CST Trust is the backbone of life.
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Give everyone the benefit of the doubt apart from those whose purpose in life is to be suspicious of everyone they meet. Never ever trust those who are suspicious of everyone they meet, they're the least amongst us.
Hi cc, you're still here too I see?

Most of the crowd still is...

Enjoy...
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Nov 22, 2022 12:18 PM CST Trust is the backbone of life.
There was I thinking it was my spine.
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Nov 24, 2022 3:33 AM CST Trust is the backbone of life.
Iyyov
IyyovIyyovPwetty Blue Planet, Washington USA3 Threads 253 Posts
What a different view that I have.

If someone becomes untrustworthy, then it is not me but them. Whether they steal from me, lie to me, or tell lies about me, or they are guilty of a serious betrayal, it is on their head, not mine. It may be hurtful to trust someone that isn't trustworthy, but the adage applies, "Burnt once, shame on you; burnt twice, shame on me!"

I disagree with the person that said not to trust anybody that is suspicious of everybody. It is the job of police to do exactly that, but often we should, or would like to trust them (the police).

My rule is similar, but is actual hard-won wisdom: Don't trust anybody that doesn't trust you. See, you can suspect somebody, but find that your suspicions are completely unfounded. But, assuming that you are a trustworthy person, if someone automatically doesn't trust you, then they "have a trust issue." That is usually a serious implication. Sometimes it will be that the person that doesn't trust you, doesn't distrust you because what you have done, but rather they don't trust you because they know what they would do in your place, and they therefore find it impossible to trust somebody in such a position. Thus, don't trust anybody that doesn't trust you. Life is rife with examples, at least in my life.

If given a position of trust, I always do my best to do what is right. I am, by most people's definition, therefore trustworthy. It is those that break such a trust, that break their own spine, or back. They don't break ours, though we may feel hurt by it.

A good example of the above is scammers on here. We see a new person. Are they a scammer, or are they completely trustworthy? Well, it is well-know that those that trust them automatically are often the ones that get taken to the cleaners. Thus, we are all "skeptical," until we find reason to think otherwise. So, skepticism is, especially in this case, very healthy. But, if you talk to that person, and they know you've been here a long time, and therefore, by definition, haven't be caught scamming anybody, but they don't trust you, what should you think? They're new; you're "proven." I would submit that you shouldn't trust them. But, that isn't the whole story. Because we all know that scammers act as if they are the most trusting people in the whole world, and therefore you should trust them. Thus, they try "turning the tables," or, as I put it, they "muddy the waters." Then, you can't readily see the truth. Once the waters are "muddied," then you can see who is causing this, and again, logically conclude that being distrustful is a wise course of action, until the waters are again clear.

As the OP inferred, the heart isn't very good at sorting out the trust issues, therefore let your brain help out. But, as we all know, the literal truth is that the heart has absolutely no part in our feelings, or thoughts. But the brain can speed up or slow down the heart base on its level of alertness and concern. So, the heart is only acting like the speedometer in the car. The driver chooses to press their foot to the floor, the speedometer is going to rise very quickly. That is the function of the heart. When we "feel" the heart race, or the absence of racing denoting calm, we attribute it to the heart, but it is the brain doing all the work. The heart just does what it is told.

The brain isn't always logical nor reasonable. The heart therefore becomes a metaphor. We place our fears or triumphs in a place we call "heart." Not the organ that pumps blood, but the place in the brain that can cause the heart to race or to stay calm.

Trust issues occur with those that "steal candy from babies," or act in any way that betrays are realistic expectations.

The OP also said, "The heart runs on faith and the mind runs on logic." But, as I illustrated, that isn't true. Both faith and logic are all in the mind.

Shalom,
Iyyov
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