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Nov 27, 2022 1:45 PM CST Self-realisation...
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
How can you tell others about yourself or expect them to even know you...if you don't even know yourself...?

Do some digging...especially the hidden stuff...?

I know myself inside and out...do you...?
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Nov 27, 2022 2:10 PM CST Self-realisation...
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Self realisation is a much misunderstood phrase, especially in the west.
Psychologist Abraham Maslow named a few people who he considered to be self realised, such as, Albert Einstein, Abraham Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt, I have only met one person who was self realised. To be in his presence was a very special experience indeed.
It is usually agreed that the simple answer to what is self realisation is ultimately learning the answer to a very basic question...."Who am I?"

"The answer lies from understanding that you are not your emotions or your thoughts. Who you really are is not even your body or your mind. These are all things you as a self experience, but they are not you."
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Nov 27, 2022 2:13 PM CST Self-realisation...
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
bodleing2: Self realisation is a much misunderstood phrase, especially in the west.
Psychologist Abraham Maslow named a few people who he considered to be self realised, such as, Albert Einstein, Abraham Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt, I have only met one person who was self realised. To be in his presence was a very special experience indeed.
It is usually agreed that the simple answer to what is self realisation is ultimately learning the answer to a very basic question...."Who am I?"

"The answer lies from understanding that you are not your emotions or your thoughts. Who you really are is not even your body or your mind. These are all things you as a self experience, but they are not you."
So...what are you per your teachings?
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Nov 27, 2022 2:38 PM CST Self-realisation...
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
spikkels999: So...what are you per your teachings?
Let me recommend a very good book.

Not I, Not Other than I. The life and Teachings of Russel Williams.

I was forunate to meet this extraordinay man many times. Sadly he is no longer with us in body but he touched the heart and souls of all who spent time with him. The book details his amazing life and as the title suggests looks a life from a different perspective.

"Russel Williams is one of the most remarkable enlightened spiritual teachers of our time. After an early life of extreme hardship – leaving school at the age of 11, and becoming an orphan shortly afterwards – he underwent a spiritual awakening at the age of 29. Since the late 1950s, he has been a spiritual teacher, and is still actively teaching now, at the age of 94.
Russel has created a profound text which will surely become known as a classic of spiritual literature."

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Nov 27, 2022 2:48 PM CST Self-realisation...
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
bodleing2: Let me recommend a very good book.

Not I, Not Other than I. The life and Teachings of Russel Williams.

I was forunate to meet this extraordinay man many times. Sadly he is no longer with us in body but he touched the heart and souls of all who spent time with him. The book details his amazing life and as the title suggests looks a life from a different perspective.

"Russel Williams is one of the most remarkable enlightened spiritual teachers of our time. After an early life of extreme hardship – leaving school at the age of 11, and becoming an orphan shortly afterwards – he underwent a spiritual awakening at the age of 29. Since the late 1950s, he has been a spiritual teacher, and is still actively teaching now, at the age of 94.
Russel has created a profound text which will surely become known as a classic of spiritual literature."

I have been enlightened from age 5...
Tell me about yourself...?
Wife, kids, parents...if you don't find it too personal...?
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Nov 27, 2022 2:53 PM CST Self-realisation...
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
spikkels999: I have been enlightened from age 5...
Tell me about yourself...?
Wife, kids, parents...if you don't find it too personal...?
I'm posting on a thread about self realisation. My personal details are not relevant.
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Nov 27, 2022 2:56 PM CST Self-realisation...
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
bodleing2: I'm posting on a thread about self realisation. My personal details are not relevant.
We all make decisions on a split second basis...
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Nov 27, 2022 3:00 PM CST Self-realisation...
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
spikkels999: We all make decisions on a split second basis...
Sometimes we do, sometimes we give careful consideration. I prefer the later,although spontaneity can bring unexpected rewards.
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Nov 27, 2022 3:20 PM CST Self-realisation...
d4nI314
d4nI314d4nI314Planet Earth, Valencia Spain7 Threads 453 Posts
bodleing2: Self realisation is a much misunderstood phrase,

..."Who am I?"

"The answer lies from understanding that you are not your emotions or your thoughts. Who you really are is not even your body or your mind. These are all things you as a self experience, but they are not you."
Exactly! We are all spiritual beings having an experience, here on earth, in an avatar body.

We are all "infinite consciousness"
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Nov 27, 2022 3:37 PM CST Self-realisation...
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
d4nI314: Exactly! We are all spiritual beings having an experience, here on earth, in an avatar body.

We are all "infinite consciousness"
I think one way of looking at it is say, we identify with the'me'. The one who has a name, a gender, job, family and possesions. The me is subject to change, birth life and death and sufferes the ills of being in our human body.
The self, or 'I' is not subject to change, birth life and death and is free from the endless suffereings of samsara, (the cycle of birth life and death) and is eternal.

I think that more or less ties in with what you are saying.

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Nov 27, 2022 4:51 PM CST Self-realisation...
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
bodleing2: I think one way of looking at it is say, we identify with the'me'. The one who has a name, a gender, job, family and possesions. The me is subject to change, birth life and death and sufferes the ills of being in our human body.
The self, or 'I' is not subject to change, birth life and death and is free from the endless suffereings of samsara, (the cycle of birth life and death) and is eternal.

I think that more or less ties in with what you are saying.
The soul liives on into eternity...this current lifetime is very temporary...
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Nov 27, 2022 10:30 PM CST Self-realisation...
d4nI314
d4nI314d4nI314Planet Earth, Valencia Spain7 Threads 453 Posts
spikkels999: The soul liives on into eternity...this current lifetime is very temporary...
If one has a soul that is .
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Nov 28, 2022 1:21 AM CST Self-realisation...
Ten_of_cupss
Ten_of_cupssTen_of_cupssShumen, Bulgaria2 Threads 1,375 Posts
You don't need to tell others who you are.
Because what you are changes constantly.
You can only give impression of yourself through your actions and physical appearance.
The rest can be a subject to interpretation, which doesn't make the conclusions truly relevant.
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Nov 28, 2022 1:22 AM CST Self-realisation...
Ten_of_cupss
Ten_of_cupssTen_of_cupssShumen, Bulgaria2 Threads 1,375 Posts
How come soul is eternal but then you question if one has it? confused
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Nov 28, 2022 2:23 AM CST Self-realisation...
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Ten_of_cupss: How come soul is eternal but then you question if one has it?
Because there's always someone you don't like. It used to be black people that had no souls and someone's gotta be the new black.
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Nov 28, 2022 3:23 AM CST Self-realisation...
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
d4nI314: If one has a soul that is .
All beings have a soul, including humans, fauna and flora, rocks,.earth, particles, etc...
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Nov 28, 2022 3:25 AM CST Self-realisation...
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
Ten_of_cupss: You don't need to tell others who you are.
Because what you are changes constantly.
You can only give impression of yourself through your actions and physical appearance.
The rest can be a subject to interpretation, which doesn't make the conclusions truly relevant.
You are...
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Nov 28, 2022 3:27 AM CST Self-realisation...
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Because there's always someone you don't like. It used to be black people that had no souls and someone's gotta be the new black.
Lol...yes with everyone...
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Nov 28, 2022 4:37 AM CST Self-realisation...
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
bodleing2: Sometimes we do, sometimes we give careful consideration. I prefer the later,although spontaneity can bring unexpected rewards.
You decide once...after you try to justify your actions...
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Nov 28, 2022 7:20 AM CST Self-realisation...
d4nI314
d4nI314d4nI314Planet Earth, Valencia Spain7 Threads 453 Posts
spikkels999: All beings have a soul, including humans, fauna and flora, rocks,.earth, particles, etc...
NO, they don't!
Only 1.500.000 on this earth have a soul.
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