Arrogant Giving ( Archived) (34)

Apr 4, 2007 8:43 AM CST Arrogant Giving
beachfarmer
beachfarmerbeachfarmerLa Jolla, USA18 Threads 3,784 Posts
At the grocery Store's Customer Service Desk last night,
I was behind a lady inquiring about gift cards. She was
asking if the cards could have an option of omitting
alcohol and tobacco products. She wanted to help out
a friend, but didn't want to contribute to products that
she didn't believe in. (She even kinda LOOKED like
the "SNL Church Lady").

I had heard about this before during the holidays,
$5.oo gift certificates for food only. I admit that in a
way this made sense. You know the common refrain,
"They're just going to buy booze".

Then something struck me as so arrogant about
this. If you're going to give...GIVE. At least give
someone the dignity of making the choice even
if "in YOUR OPINION" those choices are not
dignified.

Is putting parameters (like this) on your generosity arrogant,
or just being concerned?
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Apr 4, 2007 8:48 AM CST Arrogant Giving
native_grl38
native_grl38native_grl38Belleville, Canada10 Threads 4,332 Posts
It's arrogant....If you have to give something with conditions attached then don't bother to give it at all....Either give freely or not at all....After all is that not the purpose of giving??????

We should not expect anything in return including how the person utilizes out gift!!!!!!!!!!!!


conversing conversing
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Apr 4, 2007 8:52 AM CST Arrogant Giving
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
I'm in agreement with you both. Get a no strings
attached gift card and then make up a food item and
take it over to her home. (Just a thought)
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Apr 4, 2007 8:53 AM CST Arrogant Giving
FallinAngel1
FallinAngel1FallinAngel1Fairfield, USA16 Threads 1,945 Posts
i guess its a little bit of both.. i mean you might care if they are going to buy whats needed instead of something not needed.. for thier sake but then again .. when you give something like that.. isnt the whole point so you wont have to worry bout what to buy or give to someone.. and for them to spend how they see fit..?

its kind of like a double sided coin i guess


if you want someone to have food.. give them food..simple as that..

if you want them to have clothes.. give them clothes.. if someone has trouble paying their bills.. do it for them..

assuming is you dont want to give them money because ur afraid they will spend it on something needless
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Apr 4, 2007 8:54 AM CST Arrogant Giving
beachfarmer
beachfarmerbeachfarmerLa Jolla, USA18 Threads 3,784 Posts
I agree..... but then again, don't WE choose a shirt that we think would look good on someone or perhaps a gadget that WE think would be helpful to them?
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Apr 4, 2007 8:56 AM CST Arrogant Giving
native_grl38
native_grl38native_grl38Belleville, Canada10 Threads 4,332 Posts
Yes that's true but we don't tell them how and where they can wear the shirt either!!!!!!!!

dunno confused grin
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Apr 4, 2007 8:57 AM CST Arrogant Giving
beachfarmer
beachfarmerbeachfarmerLa Jolla, USA18 Threads 3,784 Posts
Still "choosing" the shirt.
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Apr 4, 2007 9:00 AM CST Arrogant Giving
native_grl38
native_grl38native_grl38Belleville, Canada10 Threads 4,332 Posts
Yes something we think they will like and enjoy...and letting them have the free will to choose to wear it as they like....Not choosing something that we like based on our beliefs....Giving is about the other person NOT us!!!!!!!!!!!!


conversing conversing
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Apr 4, 2007 9:03 AM CST Arrogant Giving
shyone57
shyone57shyone57Kilkenny, Ireland14 Threads 2,037 Posts
Don't choose the shirt, give a gift voucher for it



Just a thoughtwine
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Apr 4, 2007 9:04 AM CST Arrogant Giving
beachfarmer
beachfarmerbeachfarmerLa Jolla, USA18 Threads 3,784 Posts
A very nice gesture to a friend.

I wonder about in general too. I usually will just give a street person a few bucks. Heck if a beer will make them feel better, let them get a beer. That's just me though.
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Apr 4, 2007 9:04 AM CST Arrogant Giving
native_grl38
native_grl38native_grl38Belleville, Canada10 Threads 4,332 Posts
I agree...thumbs up
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Apr 4, 2007 9:10 AM CST Arrogant Giving
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
Hey, we're not mind readers. laugh We are giving
from standards of our own experience. It's ok.
There's always the option for them to re-gift it, hahaha,
if they really don't like it.
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Apr 4, 2007 9:11 AM CST Arrogant Giving
shyone57
shyone57shyone57Kilkenny, Ireland14 Threads 2,037 Posts
At the end of the day, does it matter what it is?

Isn't it more important that it is given from the heart?

conversing
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Apr 4, 2007 9:12 AM CST Arrogant Giving
beachfarmer
beachfarmerbeachfarmerLa Jolla, USA18 Threads 3,784 Posts
Recently I received a gift certificate to a "Christian" bookstore.
I'm Agnostic. This struck me as presumptuous too, but I knew it was from the heart.

I gave it to someone who could use it.
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Apr 4, 2007 9:13 AM CST Arrogant Giving
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
There should be conditions if the gift will be used to do harm, as in booze given to an alcoholic.
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Apr 4, 2007 9:18 AM CST Arrogant Giving
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
Probably a 'real' alchoholic would take any gift and
trade it for booze.
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Apr 4, 2007 9:25 AM CST Arrogant Giving
ariesgirl003
ariesgirl003ariesgirl003Bangin, New Jersey USA32 Threads 3,038 Posts
Sorry can't agree on this one .....I help my friend out alot Oil for her house ,food, gas money,and so on.... and I buy it and bring it to her or I pay her bills on line... WHY... its not for her its for her kids she can't take care of....Why....Cuz any money she gets she spends on drugs or whatever... she would take she last dollar and but drugs or whatever when her kids are hungry or need clothes mumbling
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Apr 4, 2007 9:26 AM CST Arrogant Giving
beachfarmer
beachfarmerbeachfarmerLa Jolla, USA18 Threads 3,784 Posts
Perhaps wrong, but especially when it comes to street people,
ANYTHING that will provide even a bit of relief is not necessarily
ok, but I am willing to get them a drink if that's what they really want at the time.
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Apr 4, 2007 9:28 AM CST Arrogant Giving
starliteisbrite
starliteisbritestarliteisbriteThe planet earth....:), Ontario Canada56 Threads 7,327 Posts
Have bought many drinks for those on the street,worked at a wet house that about says it all....Be it right or wrong,its a fact of life that for many isn't going to change anytime soon if at all.
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Apr 4, 2007 9:31 AM CST Arrogant Giving
beachfarmer
beachfarmerbeachfarmerLa Jolla, USA18 Threads 3,784 Posts
a "wet house"?confused

dedicated to helping people out "despite" their addictions?
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