Big Oil kicked to curbed?????and they go ????? ( Archived) (16)

May 1, 2007 5:00 PM CST Big Oil kicked to curbed?????and they go ?????
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
Am I the only only one that smells a rat???

the big majotr oil companies say that quality and safty are in danger with oil production being in Chavez's hands ?????

big American oil corporations quietly walks away form their fileds and refineries??? saying venezelas Chavez has taking control oh well we cannot do nothing????

big oil companies saying that they will no longer be in contro of prices????


what is wrong with this picture

Am I missing something??
somebody help me see whats gong on here..

I don't have optical insurancerolling on the floor laughing
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May 1, 2007 5:02 PM CST Big Oil kicked to curbed?????and they go ?????
loves2steppin
loves2steppinloves2steppinConcord, New Hampshire USA20 Threads 1,729 Posts
The answer is???? cranial rectosis???
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May 1, 2007 5:07 PM CST Big Oil kicked to curbed?????and they go ?????
dragondog4
dragondog4dragondog4Perth, Western Australia Australia55 Threads 3,912 Posts
I can answer Fireliters question. But he already knows the answer.
But what is Cranial Rectosis ???

For those of us who skipped school.dunno
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May 1, 2007 5:10 PM CST Big Oil kicked to curbed?????and they go ?????
loves2steppin
loves2steppinloves2steppinConcord, New Hampshire USA20 Threads 1,729 Posts
laugh laugh head up butt.....laugh
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May 1, 2007 5:19 PM CST Big Oil kicked to curbed?????and they go ?????
dragondog4
dragondog4dragondog4Perth, Western Australia Australia55 Threads 3,912 Posts
laugh Thanks. I guess I suffer fom that at times also.

Is it contagious and do i need to see a doctor when suffering from it. laugh laugh
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May 1, 2007 5:20 PM CST Big Oil kicked to curbed?????and they go ?????
loves2steppin
loves2steppinloves2steppinConcord, New Hampshire USA20 Threads 1,729 Posts
laugh laugh laugh
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May 1, 2007 9:35 PM CST Big Oil kicked to curbed?????and they go ?????
Paulbearer
PaulbearerPaulbearerHouston, Texas USA237 Posts
Matbe you should examine your assumtions about the world and quick getting your information from hollywood and tv.
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May 2, 2007 5:22 AM CST Big Oil kicked to curbed?????and they go ?????
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
I've a feind who thinks just by reading the headlines he knows wahts going on, as for the Tv and hollywood some of the greatest stories ever told began or where mere soundbytes in the beginning

Either way Chavez is not a freind of American people.
the single fact that the oil companies reacted he way they did is curious.
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May 2, 2007 9:34 AM CST Big Oil kicked to curbed?????and they go ?????
highfidelity
highfidelityhighfidelityEurope, Lower Saxony Germany37 Threads 2,287 Posts
well Chavez is not playing the game of Oil companies taking over the country - he is not as corrupt as the Saudis.. and knows the US wants his head..

NOT ONE who owned Property in Venezuela has been kicked out ..without indemnization .. incl. Oil companies..even the corporations owning huge landmarks, in realty they could have never been sold to them legally - because they belong to the farmers living on that ground.

The Venezuelan economy is booming, millions of poor people have access to free health care and subsidized food for the first time, and President Chavez' approval ratings have soared to more than 70% -- according to opposition pollsters.

It's pretty hard to make a case that Venezuela is less democratic than other Latin American countries, and no respectable human rights organization has tried to do so.

Still, the Bush administration perseveres on its lonely road.
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May 2, 2007 10:47 AM CST Big Oil kicked to curbed?????and they go ?????
highfidelity
highfidelityhighfidelityEurope, Lower Saxony Germany37 Threads 2,287 Posts
Yeah .. wanna smell some more ?

Dobson, Falwell and Robertson, we now know, supplied Bush with personnel for sensitive government posts. In 2005, Robertson "a man of God" called for assassinating Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez. Did Bush agree?

After all, the theological progeny of Falwell and Robertson decided recent elections. Logically their elite members populate the Bush government; political payback and ideological obeisance.

They turned out millions of voters to vote the way Jesus would have voted.

Jesus did convert people like Paul, a murderer, but what could he have done about someone with the warped upbringing and disingenuous character of George W. Bush?

After drinking and drug taking, failures and humiliations, W sobered up and joined the gun-loving Jesus cult of Falwell and Robertson.


This man was preachin' at me, yeah, layin' on the charm
askin' me for twenty, with ten-thousand on his arm.
He wore designer clothes, and a big smile on his face
tellin' me salvation while they sang Amazin' Grace.
Askin' me for money, when he had all the signs of wealth.
I almost wrote a check out, yeah, then I asked myself
Would Jesus be political if He came back to earth?
Have His second home in Palm Springs, yeah, and try to hide His worth?
Take money, from those poor folks, when He comes back again,
and admit He's talked to all them preachers who say they been a talkin' to Him?
Would He wear a pinky ring, would He drive a brand new car?
Would His wife wear furs and diamonds, would His dressin' room have a star?
If He came back tomorrow, well there's somethin' I'd like to know
Would Jesus wear a Rolex on His television show?

jaw drop very mad
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May 2, 2007 10:57 AM CST Big Oil kicked to curbed?????and they go ?????
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
There are several oil refineries in the Gulf which belong to Venezuela,(Chavez) and he has authorized huge discounts to the flood victims to heat their home...and has donated millions to the flood victim relief agencies. Check the facts first. There is no "takeover" planned by Chavez, it's all US hype as usual....
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May 3, 2007 1:40 AM CST Big Oil kicked to curbed?????and they go ?????
highfidelity
highfidelityhighfidelityEurope, Lower Saxony Germany37 Threads 2,287 Posts
want to smell a bit more ?


Protection of terrorists who serve U.S. interests is still another feature of the 21st Century. There are many examples, especially among Cuban exiles, but two stand out from the others: Orlando Bosch and Luis Posada Carriles. Both have long, well-documented pedigrees as international terrorists, but one of their joint crimes was historic: the first bombing in flight of a civilian airliner in the Western Hemisphere. It was Cubana flight 455 that on October 6th, 1976 exploded just after takeoff from Barbados killing all 73 people on board.

Bosch and Carriles, both of whose CIA careers began around 1960, planned the bombing in Caracas and provided the explosives to two Venezuelans recruited by Posada. These two were discovered, convicted, and sentenced to long prison terms. Not so with Bosch and Posada who were protected by then-Venezuelan President Carlos Andrés Pérez who has his own history of working with the CIA. Although they were both arrested and tried separately in Venezuelan courts as the intellectual authors of the crime, neither was convicted.
Protection of terrorists who serve U.S. interests is still another feature of American Fascism of the 21st Century. There are many examples, especially among Cuban exiles, but two stand out from the others: Orlando Bosch and Luis Posada Carriles. Both have long, well-documented pedigrees as international terrorists, but one of their joint crimes was historic: the first bombing in flight of a civilian airliner in the Western Hemisphere. It was Cubana flight 455 that on October 6th, 1976 exploded just after takeoff from Barbados killing all 73 people on board.

Bosch and Carriles, both of whose CIA careers began around 1960, planned the bombing in Caracas and provided the explosives to two Venezuelans recruited by Posada. These two were discovered, convicted, and sentenced to long prison terms. Not so with Bosch and Posada who were protected by then-Venezuelan President Carlos Andrés Pérez who has his own history of working with the CIA. Although they were both arrested and tried separately in Venezuelan courts as the intellectual authors of the crime, neither was convicted.

Bosch was found not guilty and released in 1988, returned to Miami but was arrested for an old parole violation. The Justice Department then ordered his deportation as an "undesirable" and as "the most dangerous terrorist" of the Western Hemisphere. But Jeb Bush, son of then-President Bush, persuaded his father in 1990 to quash Bosch´s deportation order. Since then Bosch has lived freely in Miami where he gives television interviews in which he makes every effort to justify terrorism against Cuba.


The conviction of the Miami Cuban Five for their anti-terrorist efforts, in contrast with the official protection of terrorists like Bosch and Posada, speaks volumes on the U.S. as the pre-eminent state sponsor of international terrorism.

barf
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May 3, 2007 7:16 AM CST Big Oil kicked to curbed?????and they go ?????
highfidelity
highfidelityhighfidelityEurope, Lower Saxony Germany37 Threads 2,287 Posts
Tragically, money that was supposed to go to those in need is instead being diverted by federal, state and local politicians and corporations who have swooped down on these billions and are taking them for other purposes.

Example one. Congress allocated $10.4 billion through the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) program to rebuild Louisiana. By law, over 50% of these funds are supposed to benefit low and moderate income people

As of November 1, 2006, only eighteen people have actually received any of this money to fix up their homes, out of over 77,000 homeowners who have applied for assistance. Yes, only 18!

Louisiana cannot get the money to those in need, but it has managed to start paying a corporate management company, ICF International, $756 million over the next three years. This is very big for ICF, whose total revenue in 2005 was $177 million.

Meanwhile, disaster profiteering continues. The Gulf Opportunity Zone Act of 2005 was established by Congress to rebuild the communities devastated by Hurricanes Katrina and Rita. So far, this has been used to subsidize all kinds of private projects including the building of a mall for Target and JC Penny in Lafayette, expanding an auto dealership in Baton Rouge, converting a plantation in Livingston into a hotel.

This corporate plundering follows the path taken in the immediate days after Katrina when politically connected corporations were given hundreds of millions of no-bid contracts. Ashbritt of Florida was awarded a contract over $500 million to clean up debris in Mississippi despite not owning a single dump truck. Ashbritt had paid a GOP lobbyist firm $40,000 right before the storm and another $50,000 directly to the GOP the year before.

Ceres Environmental of Brooklyn Park, MN was given a $500 million contract for debris removal in LA by the Corps of Engineers. In the previous 4 years, the company had received a total of $29 million in government contracts. The Minnesota Office of Environmental Assistance listed the company as a provider of "yard waste compost and horticultural potting soil."

Circle B Enterprises was awarded $287 million in contracts by FEMA to build trailers despite not even being licensed to build homes in its own state of Georgia and filing for bankruptcy in 2003. The company does not even have a website.

Other corporations profiting off the devastation include Bechtel, Blackwater, CH2M Hill, Fluor, Halliburton subsidiary KBR and many others.

Support the people and community organizations of the gulf coast in this fight.

Raise righteous and holy hell! Join with Amnesty International USA in the human rights campaign to stop the demolition of affordable housing. Ask your federal elected officials for an immediate investigation into the looting of the Gulf Coast. We need your help, before all the money is gone.

help
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May 3, 2007 7:28 AM CST Big Oil kicked to curbed?????and they go ?????
highfidelity
highfidelityhighfidelityEurope, Lower Saxony Germany37 Threads 2,287 Posts
Chávez provided relief assistance to the poverty stricken and largely African American victims of the flood disaster.

The head of Citgo, the U.S. subsidiary of Venezuela's state owned oil company, set up disaster relief centers in Louisiana and Texas in the wake of the hurricane and provided humanitarian to thousands of victims.

Volunteers based at Citgo refineries in Lake Charles, Louisiana and Corpus Christi, Texas, provided medical care, food and water to approximately 5,000 people.

In Houston, volunteers from Citgo headquarters provided similar assistance to 40,000 victims. What is more, Venezuela has provided hundreds of thousands of barrels of oil in energy assistance to the United States.

Chávez followed up his bold initiative by announcing that he would soon begin to ship heating and diesel oil at rock bottom prices to schools, nursing homes, hospitals and poor communities within the U.S. The Venezuelan president has also offered to provide free eye surgery for poor Americans suffering from certain eye conditions.
The firebrand South American leader, who proclaimed the plan during a recent visit to New York, will begin his oil program through an October pilot project in Chicago. There, the Venezuelan government will target poor Mexican Americans for assistance.

In November, Chávez intends to expand the program to the South Bronx and Boston.
Chávez has even offered to ship low cost gasoline to Native American tribal communities in the United States.

"There is a lot of poverty in the U.S. and I don't believe that reflects the American Way of Life. Many people die of cold in the winter.
Many die of heat in the summer," Chávez recently remarked during his weekly TV show. "We could have an impact on seven to eight million persons," he added.
During his time in New York, Chávez toured the largely African American and Latino populated Bronx and was treated like a veritable rock star. Democratic Congress member Jose Serrano, who invited the Venezuelan president to the Bronx, remarked, "Chávez went to the poorest congressional district in the nation's richest city, and people on the street there just went crazy.
A lot of people told me they were really mesmerized by him.

Chávez's moves are sure to play well in the inner city. In light of the high price of oil this year, which has reached $70 a barrel, it is expected that the price of heating oil will skyrocket and become unaffordable to many poor people of color.
By providing cheap oil to marginalized communities fed up with price gouging, Chávez shrewdly overshadows George Bush.
The U.S. president, along with the Republican party, have long ignored the social needs of America's inner cities as evidenced by the botched hurricane relief operation in New Orleans.

Unlike the U.S. government, which was hobbled by Hurricane Katrina and which had to redirect much of the winter's energy assistance program to hurricane victims, Chávez is ideally positioned to help poor communities of color. Venezuela owns 14,000 gas stations and eight refineries in the United States through Citgo, none of whose oil infrastructure was damaged by Hurricane Katrina.
Chávez has stated he will reserve 10% of the 800,000 barrels of Citgo oil and ship the petroleum directly to poor communities.
Unnamed Venezuelan officials claimed that their country would not lose money through the deal, as the idea was to "cut the middle man" out of the deal. Rafael Ramirez, Venezuela's Minister of Energy and Petroleum, says the move will relieve urban suffering as beneficiaries could see price reductions of up to 30%.
Chávez's moves are sure to play well in the Bronx, but unlikely to be received with any sign of gratitude in Washington.
"Cutting oil prices must seem like the worst sort of radicalism to the Big Oil companies and their buddies at the Bush-Cheney White House
handshake peace grin
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May 3, 2007 8:09 AM CST Big Oil kicked to curbed?????and they go ?????
agman
agmanagmanEagle, Idaho USA3,145 Posts
Well highfidelity, I think you gave me a headache again.
But enjoy reading your post. Chavez is gaining popularity and respect with his charitible deads. A lesson that
American leaders could learn. But in the end the oil reserves
are depleting and gobal warming is changing, so lets find
ways to decrease dependence on oil.
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May 3, 2007 2:27 PM CST Big Oil kicked to curbed?????and they go ?????
highfidelity
highfidelityhighfidelityEurope, Lower Saxony Germany37 Threads 2,287 Posts
sorry for the headache .. thanks for sharing mine .. laugh wink laugh
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