Josh's Guide to the "Sensitive" Guy ( Archived) (27)

Jan 29, 2006 5:14 AM CST Josh's Guide to the "Sensitive" Guy
catharsisecho
catharsisechocatharsisechoTerre Haute, USA3 Threads 57 Posts
Forgive the pretention. I'm fairly new to this site in general, and the forums in specific. After having a coffee fueled frenzy of forum browsing, I've noticed many threads popping up complaining about "needy," "clingy," and "insecure" men. Being an avowed member of the shy-insecure men's union, I feel the need to take a moment to address the issue of why we are this way. There is a very firm and distinct demarkation that seperates the shy, insecure male and the obsessivly jealous male. I will address this point as well.

So, you have found yourself dating a man you are somewhat pleased with. He treats you well. He makes you laugh. He seems to be an all around nice guy. But does he perhaps call you back just after hanging up with you because he thinks you might have misinterperated what seemed to you a simple and innoculous comment? When you are at a party, does he follow you around like a lost puppy? When he is joking around with his friends, does he glance at you every once in a while as if to gauge the way you are reacting to what he is saying? Does he get quiet and somewhat defensive after you just related a very funny story about a male co-worker? Then you have found yourself in a relationship with a card carrying member of the local chapter of the shy-insecure union.

Never fear! There are solutions! Don't give up, because the shy-insecures are an oft overlooked and underappreciated subdivision of the male population. One thing you must always ask yourself- why is he acting this way? What is it that makes the shy-insecure shy and insecure.

1. Perhaps he has been socialized early on this way.
Many shy-insecures develop at an early age. Perhaps your boyfriend was the kid reading the book (or, for us young'uns, playing the gameboy!) out on the recess yard. Many theories abound as to what makes some kids more introverted than others. It is sometimes difficult to get out of the habit of being shy-insecure once it becomes set in childhood.

2. Perhaps he had one (or several!) bad relationships.
Once burned, twice shy; so they say. The human brain has the amazing capacity to take two unrelated things or events and make analogies and connections between them. This is even true of relationships. Example: A man is in a relationship with a woman who is a day person and goes to bed early. They throw a party at their home, but he has to work the next day and goes to bed early. He wakes up the next day alone and goes downstairs to find his wife in the arms of his best friend. A few years later, the man is in another relationship. They throw a party at their home, but he has to work the next morning and goes to bed early. He wakes up alone and even though these are two different situations, his first knee-jerk reaction is what has happened now?

3. Perhaps his an emo neo-hipster.
These people typically spend their time listening to bands like "Dashboard Confessional" and "Bright Eyes". They are also the reformed jocks that gave our gameboy kid from reason #1 such an inferiority complex. they have somehow taken awkwardness/bitterness and made it into a small subculture. These should be avoided at all costs, as self-loathing gets really frockin' annoing, expecially when it is fake.
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Jan 29, 2006 6:18 AM CST Josh's Guide to the "Sensitive" Guy
Katine76
Katine76Katine76Moncton, Canada145 Threads 4,516 Posts
Welcome to CS.

I am fairly new myself.

Thanks for sharing your input with us. I am sure it will help a lot of others.

Tracy :o)
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Jan 29, 2006 10:19 AM CST Josh's Guide to the "Sensitive" Guy
WishUponAStar
WishUponAStarWishUponAStarShelby, North Carolina USA4 Threads 18 Posts
*applause*

Hey Josh
You make some excellent points and good reminders - thanks for sharing=)

I'll take a shy-awkward guy....over that other guy you mentioned;+) ANY day.

It's nice to know there are some good ones out there.

d~
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Jan 29, 2006 1:24 PM CST Josh's Guide to the "Sensitive" Guy
CautiousSingle
CautiousSingleCautiousSingleSouthern, British Columbia Canada4 Threads 697 Posts
entertaining and informative, thanks catharsisecho
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Jan 29, 2006 1:46 PM CST Josh's Guide to the "Sensitive" Guy
tampa1
tampa1tampa1London, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,057 Posts
Hummm? Yup.

Well Josh. I think what you have said makes perfect sense, but an impending female friend will not be a mind reader, and unless this is communicated to them in some form they will write you off.

I myself don't hold the fears of what has happened in the past, because every woman is different. It's not fair to blame them for what someone else has done to me.

Lots of people hide in a shell of shyness, but a good mate can pull them out of that. Once again there is no substitute for communication. The better you know a person the less one needs to worry about this stuff. It will feel natural if it's right..


Pete
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Jan 29, 2006 2:06 PM CST Josh's Guide to the "Sensitive" Guy
catharsisecho
catharsisechocatharsisechoTerre Haute, USA3 Threads 57 Posts
I agree entirely that communication is primary. Unfortunately, it must be the right kind of communication. Simply telling the shy-awkward person that their shyness bugs you doesn't fix anything. Shyness can be somewhat like male impotence, as the more you worry about being awkward the more awkward you become.
As far as that impending female friend not being a mind reader, aren't WE expected to read minds? ;-P
Thanks for the warm welcome, everyone. I look forward to getting to know you all.
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Jan 30, 2006 6:06 AM CST Josh's Guide to the "Sensitive" Guy
ohiostate4life
ohiostate4lifeohiostate4lifemarion, Ohio USA34 Threads 626 Posts
You make some very good points, that hit the nail on the head. I have seen, and or can relate to these situations.
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Jan 30, 2006 11:59 PM CST Josh's Guide to the "Sensitive" Guy
look at you josh,you trully are a sweetheart............you are just so sensitive..........you clearly are a saint

earth is no place for a perfect person like yourself

godbless you
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Jan 31, 2006 12:38 AM CST Josh's Guide to the "Sensitive" Guy
Ocee35
Ocee35Ocee35Jackson, Michigan USA69 Threads 2 Polls 3,852 Posts
Well said Josh.
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Jan 31, 2006 12:55 AM CST Josh's Guide to the "Sensitive" Guy
catharsisecho
catharsisechocatharsisechoTerre Haute, USA3 Threads 57 Posts
Ah yes, I was waiting to have my existance reaffirmed by the infamous waverider. Keep up the good work sir! Your intelligence and discerning wisdom is a beacon of light here on these forums. It is YOU who is the sweetheart, and these forums are no place for a perfect person such as yourself. You Aussies kill me!
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Jan 31, 2006 4:41 AM CST Josh's Guide to the "Sensitive" Guy
Drkeyedbeauty
DrkeyedbeautyDrkeyedbeautyToledo, Ohio USA7 Threads 336 Posts
Well first and foremost this guy obviously needs to stop throwing parties on nites he has to work in the morning.LOL I guess being shy is one thing but always comparing our relationship to a bad one from his past just won't fly. I am not those other women and i refuse to be penalized for them. Also, insecure men or women could bog a relationship down and it might not work for them in the long run. Everyone has baggage i know but deal with the major load before getting into a new relationship. We all learn something from each relationship whether good or bad so use it to improve urself or to know u deserve better from the next person who comes into ur life.
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Jan 31, 2006 2:18 PM CST Josh's Guide to the "Sensitive" Guy
CautiousSingle
CautiousSingleCautiousSingleSouthern, British Columbia Canada4 Threads 697 Posts
Baggage is okay as long as its the small portable carry on stuff, not moving to Tibet and need to fly cargo kinda baggage.

Like I said before, some puzzles are worth solving, catharsisecho
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Jan 31, 2006 10:15 PM CST Josh's Guide to the "Sensitive" Guy
catharsisecho
catharsisechocatharsisechoTerre Haute, USA3 Threads 57 Posts
I agree wholeheartedly. I personally don't want to date someone who cries on my shoulder every day over their ex- once in a while is okay, but at some point you should draw a line.

I have a problem with rejection in general. I approach most situations expecting to be rejected in some form or fashion. I know this is a turn off, as well as something of a self-fulfilling prophecy, but as I mentioned before, the more you worry about being rejected the more you are likely going to be rejected. 'Tis a bitter cycle. It's strange, because I have always been optimistic about other factors in my life. If a prospective mate feels that this is too much to handle, I understand completly. I don't blame my ex-wife whatsoever for tiring of my need for reaffirmation. I do, however, blame her for blaming me for being insecure when she gave me no reason to not be.

Baggage, to some extent, makes people interesting. And while I do agree that there is an extent to the amount of baggage a relationship can handle, I just don't think people should be penalized for the amount of hurt they have endured.
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Jan 31, 2006 11:20 PM CST Josh's Guide to the "Sensitive" Guy
thank you for the kind words catharsis echo,youre welcome.........and i can tell by your posts about sensitive men.................that you will surely win the nobel prize
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Jan 31, 2006 11:41 PM CST Josh's Guide to the "Sensitive" Guy
catharsisecho
catharsisechocatharsisechoTerre Haute, USA3 Threads 57 Posts
Ah! My favourite troll returns! Dear Waverider, please educate these other posters on the correct grammatical usage of the "elipsis." They seem to think it consists of three period characters. I keep telling them that a proper elipsis has anywhere from 8-14, but they just don't believe me!
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Jan 31, 2006 11:50 PM CST Josh's Guide to the "Sensitive" Guy
euro_doll
euro_dolleuro_dollSydney, New South Wales Australia11 Threads 428 Posts
im assuming you meant elipsis with only one 'l' which actually means leaving out the function words in a sentence where there can be no confusion with the overall meaning of the sentence as a whole

hope we all learnt something today- now you can tell your friends that you learnt what it actually meant
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Jan 31, 2006 11:53 PM CST Josh's Guide to the "Sensitive" Guy
look at you already getting angry are we carrismo?????,already calling people names.............you are way toooo easy,soooo much for your sensitive speech

i love you nice guy pretenders,you boys are the first to get angry
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Jan 31, 2006 11:55 PM CST Josh's Guide to the "Sensitive" Guy
hahahahaha,she wiped you out carrismo,love it girl...........you are a classic
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Feb 1, 2006 12:01 AM CST Josh's Guide to the "Sensitive" Guy
i dont find you annoying carrismo,i find you entertaining...........it is you my intelligent friend that started the name calling,not me

i have only said nice things about you...........so please ignore me if you want

calm down carrismo
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Feb 1, 2006 12:03 AM CST Josh's Guide to the "Sensitive" Guy
catharsisecho
catharsisechocatharsisechoTerre Haute, USA3 Threads 57 Posts
I wasn't actually refering to you, my learned friend.
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