DO MOST AMERICANS WISH THEY WERE STILL PART OF THE BRITISH EMPIRE AND HAD A QUEEN INSTEAD OF A PRESI ( Archived) (31)

yeah lets invade ...there might be oil there !

Queen Elizabeth II is a lovely woman, and I most assuredly would enjoy her as a woman. The colonists that mostly rebelled against the cruel treatment by the various military commanders who forget that the Colonist were British citizens too. The colonist for the most part were pushed into seeking liberty. It is true King George III was very poorly advised concerning his colonies. He also suffered from porphiria. Mosty Bristish Americans had no desire to break with Britain. It was only from the constant, cruel, vicious behaviour and attitudes of so many Royal military leaders, who represented only the very worst of the Crown's council, that the disparate colonists, were gradual forced into Union. It was the King's fault, at last. The current US Constitution evolved and still is evolving thanks to the mechanism built into it in the amendment prosess. It is no divine instrument. It is a American made document interpreted and applied differently by each and every generation, that draws from the recorded ideas of the early American Colonist who chose to lead themselves. No. I would not want the United States of America to be part of Britain again. The British Commonwealth of Nations is already large enough. It is a pleasure to have the Queen visit the USA, and I enjoy visiting her Nation. Alas, I am a citizen of the United States of America! England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland: All these nations are where my forebears came from. It is similar to asking a Chilean if he or she would prefer returning to live under the sovereignty of the Spanish monarch. Most would say "NO!" Yet, King Juan Carlos is free and very welcome in Hispano America, precisely because those nations rule themselves.

As for having the Queen, I love her, I kiss her, I embrace her, but commands me not!

I dont do politics...

I have always found it supremely ironic that the very core of this much vaunted "representative democracy"; the so called "Bill of Rights" had its first drafts aired in the infamous Chambers of Deputies during the reign of Terror in Paris which then spread to the entire country. I've also found it ironic that many of those responsible for these drafts were from the French Aristocracy for the most part along with a mix of their English cousins and those of the criminal underworld.
The question of course was to these people was France going to become a constitutional Monarchy and operate as a Republic, not to dethrone or abolish the Monarchy at all. To say that the French Revolutionary committees could not hold together and thus the more extremist elements prevailed. Many fled Paris and France altogether for England long before the Revolution actually started and submitted the very same "rights" to the American sympathisers via all their common memberships in the various Masonic Temples.
The US Bill of Rights is almost unchanged from the original version given to the King of France as the ultimatum to being dethrone in favour of his cousin who would be a Constitutional Monarch. Jefferson et al where of the same outlook but again, the more radical elements basically hi-jacked what was to be a constitutional monarchy for the newly freed colonies, with Virgina leading this position. None of this appears in official US history books, along with the brutal massacres of Royalists by the mobs and militias of the various colonies when all out war began against the British military forces. It is estimated that some tens of thousands were slaughtered and tens of thousands fled to Canada.
It is almost an axiom of history that the first victims of a revolution is always its self; its own people. The colonists turned on each other. In the end, plans for a constitutional monarchy were scrapped in favour of an appointed President via an "electoral college". It was a colossal blunder; it was worse that a mistake, it was a crime. One not familiar with this aspect of American history may wish to consult several excellent books in which different phases of these events are put into historical perspective.
1. Talisman by Graham Hancock and Robert Bauval
2. Imperial America by Gore Vidal are 2 of the best.
The English half of my own family , for the most part sided with their King, some abstained from the conflict. But all agreed that there would be no going back to England. and matters rested until the Brits stopped by for tea on their march to burn down Washington DC in 1812 but apparently they hoisted the British flag over their home once again and joyfully sang God Save the King. Hope for a better system came with the Confederacy but it wasn't to be. Absolute Monarchists to the end, no American flag has ever yet flown on that property; I agree with their outlook, no useless namby-pamby shadow of any constitutional monarchy, I find the very idea disgusting, as many do in England, especially the League Of Empire Loyalists and many other monarchy groups throughout Europe.

no mistake we got our indepence, we kicked your british butts

sorry ,,,independence !!!!

keep your queen, we do just fine , thankyou !!

that was a nice post and a pleasure to read jaunstark ( what ever your veiws were )!




i look forward to reading more of your stuff on other topics




have a great day !

"Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

Hell no!!! You can keep that old bag and her pompous family...