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RobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 PostsWas us who partitioned India wasn't it??? I know Mr Mountbatten was really popular that day, splitting families and people starving.....another triumph for British History.
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Just wanted to know ...... whats your opinion on the American interest in Iraq ?
I mean vested interest ?
I mean vested interest ?
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at this point........we broke it....we need to fix it.
With that said though. I don't think Saddam soared with the eagles. Mass graves are still being found from his extermination of different sects. His two cute sons aren't grabbing women off the streets and raping them. People aren't imprisoned for speaking out against Saddam...etc.
While we're in the neighborhood though....I wouldn't mind seeing a few bunker busters land on some nuclear reactors in Iran. At least then Iran couldn't give nuclear materials to "terrorist types" to use against "free" nations. JMO
( I bet I stirred the puddin' just a little too much w/this post )
With that said though. I don't think Saddam soared with the eagles. Mass graves are still being found from his extermination of different sects. His two cute sons aren't grabbing women off the streets and raping them. People aren't imprisoned for speaking out against Saddam...etc.
While we're in the neighborhood though....I wouldn't mind seeing a few bunker busters land on some nuclear reactors in Iran. At least then Iran couldn't give nuclear materials to "terrorist types" to use against "free" nations. JMO
( I bet I stirred the puddin' just a little too much w/this post )
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"Patriotism is a virtue of the vicious."-Oscar Wilde
Perhaps if we weren't so confronational about it, things would have a different tone, and we could have a decent dialogue with Iran. The whole speech that the Iranian President made that was inflammatory played right into the hands of those who would use fear and patriotism to manipulate Public Opinion. Do you think he would have been allowed to speak if he had a conciliatory message? I think the whole "They're dangerous because they have WMD's" is a bit overplayed at this point as a Causus Belli...and thus I distrust anything they do from that point further...
Bomb Iran?
I say we bomb Mexico. A state of passive infiltration and covert warfare has existed with them for awhile now...The War On Drugs isn't popular anymore, but it hasn't gone away...
Perhaps if we weren't so confronational about it, things would have a different tone, and we could have a decent dialogue with Iran. The whole speech that the Iranian President made that was inflammatory played right into the hands of those who would use fear and patriotism to manipulate Public Opinion. Do you think he would have been allowed to speak if he had a conciliatory message? I think the whole "They're dangerous because they have WMD's" is a bit overplayed at this point as a Causus Belli...and thus I distrust anything they do from that point further...
Bomb Iran?
I say we bomb Mexico. A state of passive infiltration and covert warfare has existed with them for awhile now...The War On Drugs isn't popular anymore, but it hasn't gone away...
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I am somewhat ashamed to mention it, but many of the worlds problems today are a direct/indirect result of the U.S. having their hand in something they shouldn't and then turning their back.
There's many examples, but to keep Robbie from throwing a jab..I'll just bob and weave..lol
There's many examples, but to keep Robbie from throwing a jab..I'll just bob and weave..lol
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I feel it is one part vested interest (cleaning up daddy's unfinished business from 90'-91)..and big oil companies..
and one part the belief I feel Bush has about putting down the terrorism threat that faces the entire world.
and one part the belief I feel Bush has about putting down the terrorism threat that faces the entire world.
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ohh i dont think so.
If you look at the political scenarion .. the word has too many issues in different places at the same time. Not many are cos of US intervention.
Actually , the USA as mentioned are confrontational being patriotic... but doesnt mean blame them everywhere.
Iraq had issues .. rather the middle east always had issues !!
India , Pakistand and other Asian countries have issues thier own .
While a lot of countries face backlash or trmoil for being allies or foes some place.
Basic issue is difference in the level of sanity .. one man's belief another's disgust !!! Better ways to level it out though .... but alas, being human we arent actually thinking of greater good all the time ..!!
If you look at the political scenarion .. the word has too many issues in different places at the same time. Not many are cos of US intervention.
Actually , the USA as mentioned are confrontational being patriotic... but doesnt mean blame them everywhere.
Iraq had issues .. rather the middle east always had issues !!
India , Pakistand and other Asian countries have issues thier own .
While a lot of countries face backlash or trmoil for being allies or foes some place.
Basic issue is difference in the level of sanity .. one man's belief another's disgust !!! Better ways to level it out though .... but alas, being human we arent actually thinking of greater good all the time ..!!
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Yeah, you're right about "aren't actually thinking of the greater good". That's a shame in and of itself.
No, I didn't mean to say that America is at fault for EVERY problem in the world, but I do know that there has been alot going on behind the scenes for many years in this country that the world doesn't know about.
Think about it: You'll hear a story break the news sometimes about this or that..and you're left scratching your head thinking "Man, I had no idea the U.S. would do that".
No, I didn't mean to say that America is at fault for EVERY problem in the world, but I do know that there has been alot going on behind the scenes for many years in this country that the world doesn't know about.
Think about it: You'll hear a story break the news sometimes about this or that..and you're left scratching your head thinking "Man, I had no idea the U.S. would do that".
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The Democrats had better find them a brainchild somewhere then.
As of right now, they have nothing to offer the arena of ideas. They only seem to respond by saying "Well, I'm not going to say what it is exactly I would do differently than the Republicans..but I would do i differently".
As of right now, they have nothing to offer the arena of ideas. They only seem to respond by saying "Well, I'm not going to say what it is exactly I would do differently than the Republicans..but I would do i differently".
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Right now, I don't see anyone that looks good on either side.... 20 candidates and none worth a damn~
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As a Democrat, I'm not exactly proud of the fact that the only person I find electable is John McCain, a republican, who is one of the few who has managed to maintain his dignity without becoming partisan in his rhetoric, and avoiding the vitriol that seems to come out of both parties these days....
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That's a pretty accurate statement at this point in time.
Unfortunatley!
Unfortunatley!
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Yeah, how did he (McCain) do that?
Impressive!
Impressive!
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LOL! Ahh,the good ole Swiss banks; a world unto themselves...
Arrangements had been made between Allen Dulles and co. with the various German firms, banks and even the SS to leave the doors open to the Swiss banks as early as 1943. With the collapse of Budapest, the amounts being transferred increased a hundred fold including all moneys paid to ransom Jewish refugees by various groups which in turn via Dulles went into various firms , holding companies and "slush funds: that Dulles and others used to set up among other things the OSS. etc. Many new German business's like pharmaceuticals, genetic research labs and "Health" oriented firms were set up with US assistance including in many cases the transfer on entire staffs from SS research facilities...the world pretty well knows what went on, but by and large, the Swiss as a whole are not usually open to corruption on the scale that we see in most other governments.
Arrangements had been made between Allen Dulles and co. with the various German firms, banks and even the SS to leave the doors open to the Swiss banks as early as 1943. With the collapse of Budapest, the amounts being transferred increased a hundred fold including all moneys paid to ransom Jewish refugees by various groups which in turn via Dulles went into various firms , holding companies and "slush funds: that Dulles and others used to set up among other things the OSS. etc. Many new German business's like pharmaceuticals, genetic research labs and "Health" oriented firms were set up with US assistance including in many cases the transfer on entire staffs from SS research facilities...the world pretty well knows what went on, but by and large, the Swiss as a whole are not usually open to corruption on the scale that we see in most other governments.
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As a conservative-leaning Libertarian, I have to agree with you... somewhat.
You've nailed it on the head when you said that, though you are a Democrat, you like McCain. Most conservatives like Lieberman and feel the same as you, that he is one of the few Dems they like.
My dream ticket would be McCain/Lieberman in either order, preferably running as Independents.
I've never sat out an election since I've been old enough to vote but I just might this go-round. Nobody on either side looks appealing. Not even the unofficial Libertarian candidate (running as a Repub) Ron Paul.
Side note - while I like the idea of having a Libertarian elected, Mr Paul has come across as too isolationist for my liking.
You've nailed it on the head when you said that, though you are a Democrat, you like McCain. Most conservatives like Lieberman and feel the same as you, that he is one of the few Dems they like.
My dream ticket would be McCain/Lieberman in either order, preferably running as Independents.
I've never sat out an election since I've been old enough to vote but I just might this go-round. Nobody on either side looks appealing. Not even the unofficial Libertarian candidate (running as a Repub) Ron Paul.
Side note - while I like the idea of having a Libertarian elected, Mr Paul has come across as too isolationist for my liking.
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