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Dec 15, 2007 2:33 PM CST Happy Saturnalia, Merry Sol Invictus...
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Seasons Greetings, people of all faiths and denominations. History has made this a time of celebration, thoughts of peace, and remembrance of what grace and prosperity we have engendered in the previous year. I'd like to take this time to wish everyone Happiness for the coming year, and not to forget that this season is a time to celebrate the bounty of the gods.

Saturnalia is an ancient Roman Tradition, pre-dating Christmas, and I wish all pagans a happy one. Christians take it for granted that Christ's birthday in winter is metaphorical, but for those who don't know the history, here is a snippet from Wikipedia:

"There is a theory that Christians in the fourth century assigned December 25 (the Winter Solstice on the Julian calendar) as Christ's birthday (and thus Christmas) because pagans already observed this day as a holiday. This theory is much disputed, as the dates of Saturnalia are not coincident with Christmas. A more refined argument is that Christmas was set on the feast of Sol Invictus, which was on December 25, and which had supplanted Saturnalia.

The 1908 Catholic Encyclopedia said that early Christians independently came up with the date of December 25 based on a Jewish tradition of the "integral age" of the Jewish prophets (the idea that the prophets of Israel died on the same dates as their birth or conception), and a miscalculation of the date of Jesus' death. But the 1967 New Catholic Encyclopedia cites a hypothesis suggested by H. Usener as "accepted by most scholars today", that "the birth of Christ was assigned the date of the winter solstice (December 25 in the Julian calendar ...) because ... the pagan devotees of Mithra celebrated the dies natalis Solis Invicti."

A theory has been advanced that the establishment of the feast of Sol Invictus on December 25 was an attempt by Aurelian to co-opt the day already celebrated by Christians for a pagan festival."

As you see, accusations have flown back and forth between polytheists and Christians as to who supplanted whose holiday. Since this is supposedly a time of peace and celebration, I wish you all the wisdom to accept others as they are, rather than causing strife by being self-righteous in any way. The origins are lost in antiquity but not the spirit. Lets all try to make Christmas spirit a 365 affair, and then perhaps, Peace on Earth isn't such an impossible dream.

Happy Holidays all.
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Dec 15, 2007 2:51 PM CST Happy Saturnalia, Merry Sol Invictus...
spiceygamble
spiceygamblespiceygambleNola, Louisiana USA36 Threads 3 Polls 4,493 Posts
Happy Holidays GB!

Happy Holidays to all!
*hugs...
cheers
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Dec 15, 2007 3:08 PM CST Happy Saturnalia, Merry Sol Invictus...
starliteisbrite
starliteisbritestarliteisbriteThe planet earth....:), Ontario Canada56 Threads 7,327 Posts
Now there is a face I have not seen in a long while.


Nice to see your smiling face....:)

.....Season's Greeting's.....
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Dec 15, 2007 3:18 PM CST Happy Saturnalia, Merry Sol Invictus...
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
Happy Holidays !! wishing you lots of cheer and happiness ahead !!
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Dec 15, 2007 4:04 PM CST Happy Saturnalia, Merry Sol Invictus...
Zellarrone1
Zellarrone1Zellarrone1Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire, England UK33 Threads 4 Polls 7,644 Posts
Hi Trace santa waving Happy christmas to you too gift reindeer
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Dec 15, 2007 4:10 PM CST Happy Saturnalia, Merry Sol Invictus...
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Heya trace.hug santa waving ho ho ho! grin
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Dec 15, 2007 4:16 PM CST Happy Saturnalia, Merry Sol Invictus...
Zellarrone1
Zellarrone1Zellarrone1Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire, England UK33 Threads 4 Polls 7,644 Posts
How is your book coming along hug

These emoticons are funny. My arms getting a bit tired with all of this waving. ho ho ho ha ha ha tongue
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Dec 15, 2007 4:16 PM CST Happy Saturnalia, Merry Sol Invictus...
Zellarrone1
Zellarrone1Zellarrone1Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire, England UK33 Threads 4 Polls 7,644 Posts
Forgot to put waving santa in santa waving laugh
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Dec 15, 2007 4:18 PM CST Happy Saturnalia, Merry Sol Invictus...
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
My book is in a holding pattern currently. I'm still writing, but Life's demands have made the time for that less and less.mumbling doh
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Dec 15, 2007 4:27 PM CST Happy Saturnalia, Merry Sol Invictus...
Zellarrone1
Zellarrone1Zellarrone1Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire, England UK33 Threads 4 Polls 7,644 Posts
Aw, it will get finished one day though reindeer
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Dec 15, 2007 5:11 PM CST Happy Saturnalia, Merry Sol Invictus...
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Perhaps. Everything happens for a reason, including obstacles...thumbs up
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Dec 15, 2007 5:21 PM CST Happy Saturnalia, Merry Sol Invictus...
class
classclassLiverpool, Merseyside, England UK143 Threads 809 Posts
have a great holiday seasoncold
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Dec 24, 2007 1:35 PM CST Happy Saturnalia, Merry Sol Invictus...
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
On the eve of the Birthday of the Sun,
I say, to each and everyone:

Happy Yuletide and Have a Happy New Year!christmas cool
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Dec 24, 2007 1:41 PM CST Happy Saturnalia, Merry Sol Invictus...
Zellarrone1
Zellarrone1Zellarrone1Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire, England UK33 Threads 4 Polls 7,644 Posts
I hope so, I am looking forward to the finished version complete with my name in it tongue

hug Happy Chritsmas & New Year 2008 Trace santa waving gift
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Dec 24, 2007 3:42 PM CST Happy Saturnalia, Merry Sol Invictus...
cardsfan24
cardsfan24cardsfan24somewhere in paradise, Illinois USA40 Threads 1 Polls 5,169 Posts
Happy Holidays to you brocheers
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Dec 24, 2007 4:11 PM CST Happy Saturnalia, Merry Sol Invictus...
rwantin
rwantinrwantinRoyal Oak, Michigan USA17 Threads 8,924 Posts
Best wishes to you in the New Year Trace. tip hat
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Dec 24, 2007 4:17 PM CST Happy Saturnalia, Merry Sol Invictus...
airliner
airlinerairlinerCentral, New Jersey USA23 Threads 2 Polls 5,143 Posts
As I approach to my "CS anniversary" next few weeks, I want to say best wishes on the holiday season, Merry Christmas (to all of you, who are celebrating) and happy new year to all friends.

Hope we can embrace peace at home and peace in the world. Long shot? oh well...I am an idealist that waygroup hug danceline santa waving
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Dec 24, 2007 6:18 PM CST Happy Saturnalia, Merry Sol Invictus...
bajanblue
bajanbluebajanblueSpeightstown, Saint Peter Barbados344 Threads 1 Polls 3,724 Posts
Hope your Yule Log is fragrant and burns evenly!christmas cool wave innocent
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Dec 24, 2007 6:23 PM CST Happy Saturnalia, Merry Sol Invictus...
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Thanks Dor. Thanks for the eCard, as well...kiss hug
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Dec 24, 2007 6:32 PM CST Happy Saturnalia, Merry Sol Invictus...
bajanblue
bajanbluebajanblueSpeightstown, Saint Peter Barbados344 Threads 1 Polls 3,724 Posts
My pleasure!santa waving christmas happy kiss
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