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Jan 17, 2008 2:18 PM CST Nostrodamus: Astrological genius or lucky fool?
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
God or not !! I like nature taking its course in certain things. It kind of angers me ... how we stick our foot in between everywhere.

mumbling
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Jan 17, 2008 2:21 PM CST Nostrodamus: Astrological genius or lucky fool?
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
riyablossom: God or not !! I like nature taking its course in certain things. It kind of angers me ... how we stick our foot in between everywhere.


usually in our mouths (foot(.. but if and I'm not saying yes there is, but if there is a god you'd think he would have made man less ... inquisitive about his possibilites? or make you less angry about our interventions?

hmmm
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Jan 17, 2008 2:22 PM CST Nostrodamus: Astrological genius or lucky fool?
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
My conclusion is that if my date brought up the name 'nostradamus..nostrodamus' then he would go back home still hungry.


Guess i'll have to rip to shreds all those astologers' dating applications.

help
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Jan 17, 2008 2:28 PM CST Nostrodamus: Astrological genius or lucky fool?
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
Before i am done for the day ...

For the ones interested ..

The latest book published about his writings i.e. the one with major predictions on WW III ..

* apparently as per his time scale WW III should have begun already.

But if we leave the time part ...

*He predicts " palestine and Israel " to be the issue that will heat up the situation to begin with
* That the middle east will be uneasy and unstable
* There will be nuclear warfare and the efect will wipe away large areas of countries and few countries themselves will be turned arid and bare.
* Large scale destruction , plaque and misery which will escalate gradually.
* At the crucial stage there will be one person who will rise to power to influence the world .. etc

This is the fine outline.

All this sort of is parallel to the end of the world , armagedon , " pralay " theories in our religions.
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Jan 17, 2008 2:33 PM CST Nostrodamus: Astrological genius or lucky fool?
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
riyablossom: Before i am done for the day ...
For the ones interested ..
The latest book published about his writings i.e. the one with major predictions on WW III ..
* apparently as per his time scale WW III should have begun already.
But if we leave the time part ...
*He predicts " palestine and Israel " to be the issue that will heat up the situation to begin with
* That the middle east will be uneasy and unstable
* There will be nuclear warfare and the efect will wipe away large areas of countries and few countries themselves will be turned arid and bare.
* Large scale destruction , plaque and misery which will escalate gradually.
* At the crucial stage there will be one person who will rise to power to influence the world .. etc
This is the fine outline.
All this sort of is parallel to the end of the world , armagedon , " pralay " theories in our religions.


I wonder if other astrologers have weighed in on this?
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Jan 17, 2008 2:34 PM CST Nostrodamus: Astrological genius or lucky fool?
diogenes
diogenesdiogenesLongview, Texas USA69 Threads 7 Polls 4,761 Posts
lusciousmile: My conclusion is that if my date brought up the name 'nostradamus..nostrodamus' then he would go back home still hungry.Guess i'll have to rip to shreds all those astologers' dating applications.




daydreammental note ~ don't talk on a date with luscious....just smile, nod, and peek at her chest when she's not looking
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Jan 17, 2008 2:36 PM CST Nostrodamus: Astrological genius or lucky fool?
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
ermmm ... frankly Al i dont think so far.

As the supreme being or God i believe in signifies empathy , kindness and peace for living a decent life with the need for each one to focus within to look for the answers they seek and progress to learn while living in harmony. But thats my personal view !

What annoys me is while we try to explore the possibilities in this kind of situation , there is a little one who might be paying the price !!

I know that all precautions are taken etc ... BUT , its still playing with natures course . Csections are the trend today. Again something which kind of makes me uneasy as the plus points of a normal delivery are many !!!
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Jan 17, 2008 2:38 PM CST Nostrodamus: Astrological genius or lucky fool?
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
BnaturAl: I wonder if other astrologers have weighed in on this?


No clue Al .. I read it up while i was surfing couple of months back. There is a large amt of detail on this. Details which are quite intriguing if we consider when this man actually wrote them.

And the part that he was apparently under " the guidance of spirits " when he wrote them is also very strange.
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Jan 17, 2008 2:42 PM CST Nostrodamus: Astrological genius or lucky fool?
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
diogenes: mental note ~ don't talk on a date with luscious....just smile, nod, and peek at her chest when she's not looking


Diogenes. I am smart enough to know that you are implying my being shallow with that reply which i don't appreciate. I am thinking a smart man would also understand that there are millions of 'other' topics other human being would care to indulge in. It's called preference or taste!
If you measure a woman's worth by 'astrology' alone then you should by all means stick to not saying a word and peeking at her chest.

Ps. From my pictures, none of my clothes allow peeping fun!

A cleavy night to you!


roll eyes
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Jan 17, 2008 2:46 PM CST Nostrodamus: Astrological genius or lucky fool?
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
riyablossom: ermmm ... frankly Al i dont think so far.

As the supreme being or God i believe in signifies empathy , kindness and peace for living a decent life with the need for each one to focus within to look for the answers they seek and progress to learn while living in harmony. But thats my personal view !

What annoys me is while we try to explore the possibilities in this kind of situation , there is a little one who might be paying the price !!

I know that all precautions are taken etc ... BUT , its still playing with natures course . Csections are the trend today. Again something which kind of makes me uneasy as the plus points of a normal delivery are many !!!


unfortuneatley one of the ways man learns.
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Jan 17, 2008 2:48 PM CST Nostrodamus: Astrological genius or lucky fool?
diogenes
diogenesdiogenesLongview, Texas USA69 Threads 7 Polls 4,761 Posts
Touchy! Touchy!


You better check under your chair, I think your sense of humor fell on the floor. laugh


Peeping at you would be fun if you were dressed in a cardboard box. I have a great imagination!
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Jan 17, 2008 2:51 PM CST Nostrodamus: Astrological genius or lucky fool?
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
riyablossom: No clue Al .. I read it up while i was surfing couple of months back. There is a large amt of detail on this. Details which are quite intriguing if we consider when this man actually wrote them.

And the part that he was apparently under " the guidance of spirits " when he wrote them is also very strange.


what I find amazing is that there are texts now, apparently interpreted properly and I use that word loosely because I find it difficult to find translation myself, doesn't mean someone else can't. These texts are written in normal understandable english... not even close to the quatrains crypticness, so I wonder...money maker?
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Jan 17, 2008 2:56 PM CST Nostrodamus: Astrological genius or lucky fool?
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
If you measure a woman's worth by 'astrology' alone then you should by all means stick to not saying a word and peeking at her chest.
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Not a person's, nor a woman's 'worth', but her penchant for certain things yes. sorry to interrupt your chat with diogenes..


uh oh
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Jan 19, 2008 1:43 PM CST Nostrodamus: Astrological genius or lucky fool?
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
I saw a documentary on Discovery on prophecies yest and there was a lot on Nostradarmus !!

Apparently , his quartains were written by him as a mix of 4 languages as he feared that in his life he would be deemed of heresey quite contrary to his cordial relations with royalty and the church.

And that his Rose pill for plague was quite famous.

He apparently wrote almanacs and later took to the prophecies .
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Jan 19, 2008 1:47 PM CST Nostrodamus: Astrological genius or lucky fool?
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
riyablossom: I saw a documentary on Discovery on prophecies yest and there was a lot on Nostradarmus !!

Apparently , his quartains were written by him as a mix of 4 languages as he feared that in his life he would be deemed of heresey quite contrary to his cordial relations with royalty and the church.

And that his Rose pill for plague was quite famous.

He apparently wrote almanacs and later took to the prophecies .


they were I imagine pretty scary times for someone dabbling in the metaphysical arts those days... AND it may be of interest that his works, like the bible and other aged books have been translated, edited, and reworked by so many that the original messeges become unclear.. then someone comes along and tries to rewrite them for profit ... not unheard of.

have to look up the rose pill thing, havent heard of that.
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Jan 19, 2008 1:51 PM CST Nostrodamus: Astrological genius or lucky fool?
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
He was a doctor by profession and the rose pill he made for plague !!
Ahh plague was rampat in those times . Apparently he lost his first wife and children to plague.

And one interesting thing is i believe he asked for peoples natal charts for making predictions and was rather uncomfortable when had to do without and made many errors.
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Jan 19, 2008 2:02 PM CST Nostrodamus: Astrological genius or lucky fool?
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
riyablossom: He was a doctor by profession and the rose pill he made for plague !!
Ahh plague was rampat in those times . Apparently he lost his first wife and children to plague.

And one interesting thing is i believe he asked for peoples natal charts for making predictions and was rather uncomfortable when had to do without and made many errors.


having birth charts and correct information is crucial. I wonder how he would have made out with todays computer software.

Astrology is not an exact science, that is to say that any number of things will converge at any given moment at one point, being that all planets and their forces are making angles to that point. Interpreting that convergance of mulitple affects is mind boggling.

I watched a movie last night called 'NEXT' ... Nicolas Cage ... a man who could see 2 minutes into the future of his own life to know what was coming and one of the things that stuck with me throughout that movie was a phrase he used .."When you look at the future it changes, because you looked at it." great movie.
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Jan 19, 2008 2:21 PM CST Nostrodamus: Astrological genius or lucky fool?
BobBilly
BobBillyBobBillyGalway, Ireland4 Threads 77 Posts
BnaturAl:

Astrology is not an exact science, that is to say that any number of things will converge at any given moment at one point, being that all planets and their forces are making angles to that point. Interpreting that convergance of mulitple affects is mind boggling.

I watched a movie last night called 'NEXT' ... Nicolas Cage ... a man who could see 2 minutes into the future of his own life to know what was coming and one of the things that stuck with me throughout that movie was a phrase he used .."When you look at the future it changes, because you looked at it." great movie.


Good movie alright, but can somebody explain by what mechanism astrology is supposed to work ? Is it gravity or something and how this does affect people ? How does the fact that when it was invented most of the planets were not know about affect it ? Pluto wasn't discovered until about the 1930's was it ? And has since been reclassified as not being a planet. I'm afraid I'm very much a skeptic blushing
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Jan 19, 2008 2:49 PM CST Nostrodamus: Astrological genius or lucky fool?
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
BobBilly: Good movie alright, but can somebody explain by what mechanism astrology is supposed to work ? Is it gravity or something and how this does affect people ? How does the fact that when it was invented most of the planets were not know about affect it ? Pluto wasn't discovered until about the 1930's was it ? And has since been reclassified as not being a planet. I'm afraid I'm very much a skeptic


To make exact time wise statements i wll have to look up.

Astrology some call as science and some as a type of psychic technique.It has been known to man since ancient civilisations as mentions are there all around.

Literally as in when todays " science " discovered planets , no it doesnt tally in time. But a lot of ancient knowledge is known to be valid and apparently they were far advanced than we are. Ex - Mayans!!

Astrology is based on the relationship the planets hold to each other in conformity with your time , date and place of birth to accurately calculate. Believing that planetary influences on our life existS. Based on this charts are drawn of supposed alignment of the planets at that point of time and then on as per the planetary cycles thro' out your life and thereby the outcomes are predicted.

This is a simple outline.
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Jan 19, 2008 2:51 PM CST Nostrodamus: Astrological genius or lucky fool?
st712
st712st712Cheshire, UK149 Posts
Are his predictions true?

Do they have any value in a society looking for answers?





no one can predict/see into the future....


accept it man
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