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Apr 4, 2008 8:59 PM CST Obama’s Communist Mentor
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
ttom500: Follow me here some. We do have economic problems but we also a segment of the Moslem world that wants to kill us, both military and civilian.

War time (or conflict time) Commander in Chief focus a lot of thier day
to that running the military and the strategy of the conflict. They lose sight of the at home economic things. I think that is partly what has happened with Bush this last years of his Administration.

So? Do both. Put McCain in as President and Paul in a cabinet position for the economy. The Republican party is united. You have new ideas on economic reform, and you get a expereinced war time commander in chief. Now whether McCain will offer and if Paul will accept...I don't know.

But it is a cute way to kill two birds with one stone. or with one cast ballot in the fall.jmo


Yes Tom, it looks so easy to do. But you want to know why it wont work? Cos Paul is honest and McCain is CFR. McCain would NEVER have a Constitutionist JOIN him. They want DEATH to the Constitutionist. I know you are not familiar with what all CFR is up to. Tom, McCain would not do it, he would not welcome Paul into any area of the Republican party. The Republicans are PISSED that Paul ran on their ticket. He is NOT Republican. He is Liberterian. CFR HATES them!!!!! CFR wants to take away our Sovereignty. Ron Paul wants to keep it.

Ron Paul does have a plan to still be able to get elected. He has delegates. They can vote him in. He also has lawsuits against states who used Diebold that did not count the votes that were given to him, such as New Hampshire. Some precints said there were zero votes for Ron Paul when there were entire families that voted for him in that precint. The corruption will be exposed!
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Apr 4, 2008 9:37 PM CST Obama’s Communist Mentor
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
kidatheart: Are you suggesting the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld team are doing a good job with the war they started? McCain just going to follow along with their agenda!
It will be no change whatsoever from the current loons in the whitehouse.


I disagree there. McCain supports the war, yes. No arguement there.
But that does not mean he will 'fight' the war the way that present
administration has.

I think that they made some mistakes and some good calls. Afghanistan was a good call in my opinion. Why? Well it went after binLaden in a pretty agressive manner with a very small deployed force. Afghanistan in my opinion is not a place to put a lot of people.
It told the world and the US...that this was about terrorism.

Mistakes? Well making the case for Iraq on the narrow base of wmds was a mistake. They should have presented a broader case......Sadam was a bad guy, Iraqi were losing thier lives, stronger connections with AlQeada....there for this was the right thing to do, they did.

Why do I say he will fight it differently. For a couple of reasons. First McCain's 5 years in a POW camp in North Vet Nam has given him a very different perspective on war, than any of the present leaders.
His position on torture and harsh treatment of detainees is one area of difference. Another is this. McCain was in a shooting war. GWB never was. Go thru it one time, tends to affect your decision making process and your will power to achieve victory.

Note how Obama mentioned McCain's 100 year remark? McCain, from word one on that was talking of 'will power' to win. GWB ever come out with such a statement? No, GWB was about landing on a aircraft carrier with a sign over head...saying 'mission accomplished'.

If you know our Civil War history......McCain is a U. S. Grant and
GWB is a Meade. Meade let Lee slip away after the battle of Gettysburg. Grant was going to stay and fight till the last man could not, then find some more and fight some more till there was a victory. McCain is bringing a difference in command attitude with him.
That is why he has done so well at the military base area in primary votes. Military people like what they hear here with McCain. He is saying, I going to turn you lose to get the job done.

GWB and his administration have been saying from day one...this is going to be a long conflict....this is going to be a long war. McCain is saying....whether long or short we have the will power to win.
See the difference? To be honest, McCain has soften his position on the war in the recent weeks some. Where it is right now, I am not sure. Where ever it is.....it is harder than either Hillary's or Obama's.

What I have said here is pretty brutal. This conflict we have is pretty brutal. Niether in Iraq or Afganhistan are Americans taken prisoner when found wounded or captured. There are only 3 MIA in Iraq presently. Basically, it is a summary execution when our people are taken captive. That is about as brutal as it gets. McCain is going to come at this with a different command attitude than GWB.
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Apr 4, 2008 9:45 PM CST Obama’s Communist Mentor
NewYorkComedy
NewYorkComedyNewYorkComedyNew York, USA1 Threads 2 Posts
::YAWN:: more B.S. about Obama.
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Apr 4, 2008 9:50 PM CST Obama’s Communist Mentor
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
ttom500: I disagree there. McCain supports the war, yes. No arguement there.
But that does not mean he will 'fight' the war the way that present
administration has.

I think that they made some mistakes and some good calls. Afghanistan was a good call in my opinion. Why? Well it went after binLaden in a pretty agressive manner with a very small deployed force. Afghanistan in my opinion is not a place to put a lot of people.
It told the world and the US...that this was about terrorism.

Mistakes? Well making the case for Iraq on the narrow base of wmds was a mistake. They should have presented a broader case......Sadam was a bad guy, Iraqi were losing thier lives, stronger connections with AlQeada....there for this was the right thing to do, they did.

Why do I say he will fight it differently. For a couple of reasons. First McCain's 5 years in a POW camp in North Vet Nam has given him a very different perspective on war, than any of the present leaders.
His position on torture and harsh treatment of detainees is one area of difference. Another is this. McCain was in a shooting war. GWB never was. Go thru it one time, tends to affect your decision making process and your will power to achieve victory.

Note how Obama mentioned McCain's 100 year remark? McCain, from word one on that was talking of 'will power' to win. GWB ever come out with such a statement? No, GWB was about landing on a aircraft carrier with a sign over head...saying 'mission accomplished'.

If you know our Civil War history......McCain is a U. S. Grant and
GWB is a Meade. Meade let Lee slip away after the battle of Gettysburg. Grant was going to stay and fight till the last man could not, then find some more and fight some more till there was a victory. McCain is bringing a difference in command attitude with him.
That is why he has done so well at the military base area in primary votes. Military people like what they hear here with McCain. He is saying, I going to turn you lose to get the job done.

GWB and his administration have been saying from day one...this is going to be a long conflict....this is going to be a long war. McCain is saying....whether long or short we have the will power to win.
See the difference? To be honest, McCain has soften his position on the war in the recent weeks some. Where it is right now, I am not sure. Where ever it is.....it is harder than either Hillary's or Obama's.

What I have said here is pretty brutal. This conflict we have is pretty brutal. Niether in Iraq or Afganhistan are Americans taken prisoner when found wounded or captured. There are only 3 MIA in Iraq presently. Basically, it is a summary execution when our people are taken captive. That is about as brutal as it gets. McCain is going to come at this with a different command attitude than GWB.



While I have no doubt that McCain is a good man and has the best of intentions, the fact remains that GWB and his band of theives has their "Mission Accomplished" in Iraq. They're making billions if not trillions off of that war.
Having McCain become president will not change that one bit. Not 100% sure it will be any different regardless of who's in power but that was one war that should never have started in the first place. Saddam would have been better suited for the CIA or some other "clandestine" organisation if they really wanted rid of him that bad.
Anyway, I still think Ron Paul's solutions make more sense than anyone else's all the way around.
Sad that half of America seemingly have never heard of him.
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Apr 4, 2008 10:06 PM CST Obama’s Communist Mentor
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
HealthyLiving: Yes Tom, it looks so easy to do. But you want to know why it wont work? Cos Paul is honest and McCain is CFR. McCain would NEVER have a Constitutionist JOIN him. They want DEATH to the Constitutionist. I know you are not familiar with what all CFR is up to. Tom, McCain would not do it, he would not welcome Paul into any area of the Republican party. The Republicans are PISSED that Paul ran on their ticket. He is NOT Republican. He is Liberterian. CFR HATES them!!!!! CFR wants to take away our Sovereignty. Ron Paul wants to keep it.

Ron Paul does have a plan to still be able to get elected. He has delegates. They can vote him in. He also has lawsuits against states who used Diebold that did not count the votes that were given to him, such as New Hampshire. Some precints said there were zero votes for Ron Paul when there were entire families that voted for him in that precint. The corruption will be exposed!


As we talked in the other thread, I am not sure what this group CFR is.
Having said that, I can also say this with 100% assurance. The first oath that John McCain took in his military career was to the Constitution of the United States, both as a officer and as a service member. If he is elected, that oath will be renewed when he takes the oath of office.

So you need to show me a lot 'direct connection' to this group...the CFR ....for me to accept what you are saying and for me to think that he would break those oaths. Just remember you are talking of a American hero and patriot here, in John McCain.

Libertian? Republican? Democratic? How about just American? Meaning, I know Dems that have worked in Republican cabinets and Republicans that have worked in Democratic cabinets. It seems to me. that Rep Paul offers alot to such a cabinet post. The simple fact is that even if he gets all of these missing primary votes, he still is not close enough to overcome the deligate lead of McCain. McCain is going to be the Republican canidate.

Also this. I work the polls here in Florida as a clerk. I have seen zero balance tapes many times at the end of the voting. What voters say on exit polling and how they actually voted might very well two different things. And their might be a problem with how the vote was recorded......our county looked the Diebold system......and choose another. If they have a paper trail, is your best way to find out if such happened.

It is certainly within his right to take to court such matters, assuming he has solid evidence of the doings. But if his evidence is the least bit suspect, courts tend to kick out election claim cases pretty fast. They understand that it often because of the passion associated with the election, that the case has been brought.
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Apr 4, 2008 10:29 PM CST Obama’s Communist Mentor
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
patrickthomas: Ron Pauls ideas about the US bringing the 911 attack on themselves and of pulling out of the war in Iraq has found a lot of empathy from people around the world not only the US.





Hell that sounds like Obama or Hillary stand...
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Apr 5, 2008 6:49 PM CST Obama’s Communist Mentor
rwantin
rwantinrwantinRoyal Oak, Michigan USA17 Threads 8,924 Posts
applause applause applause

The Cold War has been over for a while the last time I checked.
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Oct 13, 2008 4:55 PM CST Obama’s Communist Mentor
professor uh oh mumbling
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Oct 13, 2008 4:58 PM CST Obama’s Communist Mentor
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Now let's be nice to Obummer. People on here are getting their undies in a bunch . crying
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Oct 13, 2008 5:00 PM CST Obama’s Communist Mentor
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Indyfella: Now let's be nice to Obummer. People on here are getting their undies in a bunch .



I dunno maybe we should talk more about his domestic terrorist ties and abroad terrorist ties...Oh and more on the mob ties too....McCains that is!!!!!!!!!!



grin tongue roll eyes
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Oct 13, 2008 5:05 PM CST Obama’s Communist Mentor
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: I dunno maybe we should talk more about his domestic terrorist ties and abroad terrorist ties...Oh and more on the mob ties too....McCains that is!!!!!!!!!!



Let's see.........Chicago, mob ties, Dem politics ............hmmmmm? Let me walk myself thru this. I could see a connection.
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Oct 13, 2008 5:59 PM CST Obama’s Communist Mentor
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
Indyfella: Let's see.........Chicago, mob ties, Dem politics ............hmmmmm? Let me walk myself thru this. I could see a connection.



You still walking Indy?
Just wondering what connection you see...
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