actually watched TV last nite... equality has come a long way between men and women and there's still a way to go. I am curous about who should do the asking when concerning exclusive relationship, marriage, engagement does each one have a different guideline? Or is this still the mans decision or dutyrsponsibility from going "Steady" thru to Marriage who should do the asking?
Personally i think the most cunning and wily creature on Earth is the Woman.... just an opinion
Call me old-fashioned...but I still believe a man should do the asking. I also think it is just downright CRAZY and STUPID to spend all that money on a big "engagement" - "wedding". People are just wasting hard earned money on something that is going to take a few minutes to say.
Are there not any old-fashioned men out there that still believe in the old ways of being the one to ask the lady?
Fire...We are NOT ALL cunning and wily, there are alot of guys out there that are worse than women are. It's probably 50/50. Just got to have faith that people are on the up & up.
But that's just my opinion. But in adj4u's words..... What do I know? lol.
I am old school and i have sat at a bar and discussed and heard many a men tell stories how they where led down the path to proposing by the their wives, none voiced regret over it. they where just told by thier wives later in the relationship that had it not been for a womans cunning and wiles they would still be just "dating".
a few of the wives have admitted in doing it.. and still believe their man is the greatest and she there to make sure he stays that way............LMAO I might have misquoted her but it sums up
If only my ex had not turned "mean" after we signed the papers, and had stayed the man I had dated, we would probably still be married. That is what I regret, because I loved the man I fell in love with, not the man I married, if that makes any sense.
it's weird what a piece of paper with both peoples signatures can do to a relationship.... maybe thats because thruout recorded history a piece of paper between 2 individuals is required only for future use is in matters of property and poscessions... just an opinion
Only once in my life was I the first one to make that move....I was ready....three years ago....he wasn't....his ex-wife was playing head games (while she was living with another man)....caused many problems for us....he fell for her head games....now both of them are suffering in their own ways...she married her live in (who got cancer shortly thereafter) and he well....two days ago asked me if I would marry him.....I said no....we are still friends...as much as I allow it....
So true. As soon as I signed, I was forever a piece of property until I divorced him. Was not allowed any friends, if I went anywhere he would call & I better be where I was suppose to be (Walmart, grocery, etc.) and I had to take the kids to. I was not allowed to speak to cashiers (if I did, he said I was flirting with them). It was PATHETIC. People DO change when they sign that one little piece of paper.
I would probably be a little slower about it....no maybe I would have done it all the same...just sounded good so I would not feel so bad...LOL....yes for the right person I would do it again....put myself out there...after all I have survived it once...why not?....
only if he agrees to wash the silverware.....I hate silverware.....background....Grandpa at his restaurant on Mackinac Island would have a disgruntled dishwasher who would walk out leaving big huge metal sinks choke full of silverware....I'd hear filtering out front....Jan come back to the kitchen I need you to do silverware.....I was so short(verticaly challendged) that I had to stand on something just to reach the darn things...lol...therefore he would have to promise to wash silverware....I will do the rest...no problem....lol
as I said I saw TV last nite and that was what i saw a woman discussing with her freinds as to what she knew in her heart and how she was going to "pop" the question. I have been asked to go steady and be "exclusive" never will forget her using that word. Do you think the party that asks the question should have more of the responsibilies of arranging the event? or should it be be "Hey, I asked, so you set it up" kinda of thing?
I think it would be fun to do something together for a change my next time around.....something sentimental to both of us....perhaps a place where we first met ect.
I enjoyed it when I worked five years in a chinese restaurant and used chop sticks....love that chinese tradition....yeah fit right in on that one...chop sticks...alright....no silverware...cool...these people have it goin on....they rock...no silverware...they said to work at night I needed to learn to use chop sticks...no problem...I'll pitch that silverware...I had to roll up these fancy dishes at the tables...into the crepes(thin pancakes) food was soooo good there....I always lost weight while I was working there....
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equality has come a long way between men and women and there's still a way to go. I am curous about who should do the asking when concerning exclusive relationship, marriage, engagement does each one have a different guideline? Or is this still the mans decision or dutyrsponsibility from going "Steady" thru to Marriage who should do the asking?
Personally i think the most cunning and wily creature on Earth is the Woman.... just an opinion