Free will? lol (20)

May 10, 2008 11:54 AM CST Free will? lol
Marivanna_the_II
Marivanna_the_IIMarivanna_the_IISmall city, Oxfordshire, England UK22 Threads 73 Posts
Free will is the ability to act or make choices as a free and autonomous being and not solely as a result of compulsion or predestination. According to Freud's discovery of psychic determinism - the fact that much of our cognitive and affective life is unconscious - there is not much left for freedom of action.

Experiment on the correlation between electrical activity of the brain and movement (lifting a finger for example), reveals that the electrical activity precedes the movement by 200 milliseconds. It is proposed that the process of initiating a voluntary action occurs in an unconscious part of the brain, but that just before the action is taken, consciousness is recruited to approve or veto the action. In the 200 milliseconds before a finger is lifted, consciousness determines whether it moves or not.

Thus, our conscious mind may not have free will, but it can freely modify inappropriate behavior. This is the reason for the laws in our society to hold all of us accountable for our own action. It is suggested that we should update our idea of free will to mean self-control over our behaviour.
May 10, 2008 12:16 PM CST Free will? lol
confused

too much for me on a sunday afternoonsigh
May 10, 2008 12:23 PM CST Free will? lol
Marivanna_the_II
Marivanna_the_IIMarivanna_the_IISmall city, Oxfordshire, England UK22 Threads 73 Posts
dragonfly88: too much for me on a sunday afternoon


No free will, that is.
May 10, 2008 12:25 PM CST Free will? lol
Marivanna_the_II: No free will, that is.


hahahrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

you mean I have no choice?confused

none at all?confused confused

not even a tiny weeny bit of choice?confused confused

does my hand really choose which chocolate to take from the shelf? or is it meconfused
May 10, 2008 12:31 PM CST Free will? lol
kirip
kiripkiripAthens, Attica Greece2 Threads 34 Posts
Marivana the II said:

No free will, that is.

Or, exercising the free will not to? dunno
May 10, 2008 12:32 PM CST Free will? lol
kirip: Marivana the II said:

No free will, that is.

Or, exercising the free will not to?


I think that not even taking your wheel for a spin will mean free will..


I thinkdunno
May 10, 2008 12:40 PM CST Free will? lol
Marivanna_the_II
Marivanna_the_IIMarivanna_the_IISmall city, Oxfordshire, England UK22 Threads 73 Posts
dragonfly88: hahah

you mean I have no choice?

none at all?

not even a tiny weeny bit of choice?

does my hand really choose which chocolate to take from the shelf? or is it me


You are at will not to stretch your hand to any chocolate
but give in to your electrics just for this only one sitting nicely on a shelf and teasing your pleasure receptors :D
May 10, 2008 12:47 PM CST Free will? lol
kirip
kiripkiripAthens, Attica Greece2 Threads 34 Posts
Don't quite get it myself...

confused

What did you exercise to cange Saturday to Sunday?

wave

...time flies in Valencia cheering


(Brief interval till somebody thinks something about it.....wink
May 10, 2008 12:47 PM CST Free will? lol
Marivanna_the_II
Marivanna_the_IIMarivanna_the_IISmall city, Oxfordshire, England UK22 Threads 73 Posts
kirip: Or, exercising the free will not to?


There is no more of such excuse 'Sorry I did not want to do this, I really did not mean this to happen...' More like 'I could not help it happen'
May 10, 2008 12:50 PM CST Free will? lol
kirip: Don't quite get it myself...



What did you exercise to cange Saturday to Sunday?



...time flies in Valencia (Brief interval till somebody thinks something about it.....
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

welll,

having a quiet day in today so quiet it felt like a sunday afternoon after stuffing ourselves at lunch! and eating biscuits too
May 10, 2008 12:51 PM CST Free will? lol
kirip
kiripkiripAthens, Attica Greece2 Threads 34 Posts
Quid?


Something like: "I'm relaxing now, I'd rather not watch football/write something/do this/that.." is not exercising free will?

What is it then? confused
May 10, 2008 12:52 PM CST Free will? lol
kirip
kiripkiripAthens, Attica Greece2 Threads 34 Posts
Blast!

You're typing too fast for me laugh

The above on Marivana's post.
May 10, 2008 12:53 PM CST Free will? lol
Marivanna_the_II: There is no more of such excuse 'Sorry I did not want to do this, I really did not mean this to happen...' More like 'I could not help it happen'


now, we're walking ground I know about.

I've never believed people do things unconsiously but gosh it's a very good excuse...specially if they've been horrible to someone... . rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

it's usually easier saying, oops, sorry,!

I suppose we could also go onto the blindfold theme here... "no, Idon't want to admit I did that, of course I didn't do that!" blindfold.

OMG!doh
May 10, 2008 1:06 PM CST Free will? lol
Jacko50
Jacko50Jacko50Qawra, Majjistral Malta70 Threads 371 Posts
Free willy.............I saw that film toolaugh he also had a choicerolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing too heavy for me on a Sunday
May 10, 2008 1:09 PM CST Free will? lol
Jacko50: Free willy.............I saw that film too he also had a choice too heavy for me on a Sunday



it's saturday!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
May 10, 2008 1:12 PM CST Free will? lol
Jacko50
Jacko50Jacko50Qawra, Majjistral Malta70 Threads 371 Posts
dragonfly88: it's saturday!
re the wine threadrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing tongue
May 10, 2008 1:19 PM CST Free will? lol
Jacko50: re the wine thread


virtual wine!

and it has this effect!


imagine real wine!
May 10, 2008 1:23 PM CST Free will? lol
Jacko50
Jacko50Jacko50Qawra, Majjistral Malta70 Threads 371 Posts
dragonfly88: virtual wine!

and it has this effect!imagine real wine!
I don't do virtual.......strictly a hands on sort of guyrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing tongue
May 10, 2008 1:27 PM CST Free will? lol
Elley
ElleyElleyCadiz, Andalusia Spain131 Threads 1 Polls 2,808 Posts
Jacko50: I don't do virtual.......strictly a hands on sort of guy


I do real virtually every day.laugh wine and virtual really not at all.
May 10, 2008 3:23 PM CST Free will? lol
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
Elley: I do real virtually every day. and virtual really not at all.


Is that a virtual cop-out on free-will then? confused
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