Being a Christian.... (212)
Serenity1971: Hence all the problems in this world...When you get rid of all the religions then there's no source of the upper hand of control. Religion has always been used as a way of controlling people. If everyone just threw away the ways of the mass controls and relied on the fact that there is a power greater than ourselves and put aside the prejudices against each other for being who we are, this world would be a much better place and there could actually be harmony between all people no matter who they are.
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That figures......
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Serenity1971: Hence all the problems in this world...When you get rid of all the religions then there's no source of the upper hand of control. Religion has always been used as a way of controlling people. If everyone just threw away the ways of the mass controls and relied on the fact that there is a power greater than ourselves and put aside the prejudices against each other for being who we are, this world would be a much better place and there could actually be harmony between all people no matter who they are.
"Religion is the opiate of the people" Karl Marx
Is this what you are trying to say?
Is that why communism works so well?
Did it work in Russia? Is it working in China?
We will make religion illegal. And if you do not comply, we get rid of you.
The Bible says in the last days the whole world will rise up against those who claim to be Christians
, and they will massacre everyone of them that they find. I believe this to be true. Not even Islam is hated more than Christianity. Thats just the way it is.------ This thread is Archived ------
MikeHD: "Religion is the opiate of the people" Karl Marx
Is this what you are trying to say?
Is that why communism works so well?
Did it work in Russia? Is it working in China?
We will make religion illegal. And if you do not comply, we get rid of you.
The Bible says in the last days the whole world will rise up against those who claim to be Christians, and they will massacre everyone of them that they find. I believe this to be true. Not even Islam is hated more than Christianity. Thats just the way it is.
Is this what you are trying to say?
Is that why communism works so well?
Did it work in Russia? Is it working in China?
We will make religion illegal. And if you do not comply, we get rid of you.
The Bible says in the last days the whole world will rise up against those who claim to be Christians, and they will massacre everyone of them that they find. I believe this to be true. Not even Islam is hated more than Christianity. Thats just the way it is.
Oh so now you want to roll politics and religion into one ball of wax now 
How about opening your mind a little and expanding your knowledge beyond a book that men wrote!?! Try going back into history into the more peaceful times of this earth. When you go back into those peaceful times there was no such thing as religion...Spirituality and philosophy yes, but religion no.
A mind is like a parachute...It only works when it's open!
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MikeHD: "Religion is the opiate of the people" Karl Marx
Is this what you are trying to say?
Is that why communism works so well?
Did it work in Russia? Is it working in China?
We will make religion illegal. And if you do not comply, we get rid of you.
The Bible says in the last days the whole world will rise up against those who claim to be Christians, and they will massacre everyone of them that they find. I believe this to be true. Not even Islam is hated more than Christianity. Thats just the way it is.
Is this what you are trying to say?
Is that why communism works so well?
Did it work in Russia? Is it working in China?
We will make religion illegal. And if you do not comply, we get rid of you.
The Bible says in the last days the whole world will rise up against those who claim to be Christians, and they will massacre everyone of them that they find. I believe this to be true. Not even Islam is hated more than Christianity. Thats just the way it is.
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MikeHD: I will repost all my answers to these questions if you like. They have all be answered before. And when I answered them, those who asked just politely walked away.
The Bible is a book of parts, and a record of God dealing with man. Much in the same way a parent deals with a child. And the historical record of those dealings, brings up some interesting points.
igoose was really great at challenging me on this.
The Bible is a book of parts, and a record of God dealing with man. Much in the same way a parent deals with a child. And the historical record of those dealings, brings up some interesting points.
igoose was really great at challenging me on this.
No one ever really wins in this kind of debate...besides, I think God wants me to finish my laundry...
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Serenity1971: Oh so now you want to roll politics and religion into one ball of wax now
How about opening your mind a little and expanding your knowledge beyond a book that men wrote!?!
Try going back into history into the more peaceful times of this earth. When you go back into those peaceful times there was no such thing as religion...Spirituality and philosophy yes, but religion no.
A mind is like a parachute...It only works when it's open!
How about opening your mind a little and expanding your knowledge beyond a book that men wrote!?!
Try going back into history into the more peaceful times of this earth. When you go back into those peaceful times there was no such thing as religion...Spirituality and philosophy yes, but religion no.
A mind is like a parachute...It only works when it's open!
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rwantin: I love my religion. I hate my religion. If that makes sense.
The key, for me at least, is to keep it personal - not to thump people over the head with it, as has been done for ages.
The key, for me at least, is to keep it personal - not to thump people over the head with it, as has been done for ages.
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mbcasey: Nothing wrong with being a Christian. I was raised a Catholic also, but choose to believe in God and Jesus without the benefit of a denomination.
To each his own
To each his own
Aries01 wrote:
whats so scary about it anyway?? as a Catholic I was supposed to be anyway... the only difference is sincerity.. to me it makes sense what do u think??
Yes.I am pretty much on this same page in that respect.
Hi Aries01
Happy Memorial Day. Not sure if Ireland has something like that but today is a big day of reflection in the U.S.A.
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Serenity1971: Oh so now you want to roll politics and religion into one ball of wax now
How about opening your mind a little and expanding your knowledge beyond a book that men wrote!?!
Try going back into history into the more peaceful times of this earth. When you go back into those peaceful times there was no such thing as religion...Spirituality and philosophy yes, but religion no.
A mind is like a parachute...It only works when it's open!
How about opening your mind a little and expanding your knowledge beyond a book that men wrote!?!
Try going back into history into the more peaceful times of this earth. When you go back into those peaceful times there was no such thing as religion...Spirituality and philosophy yes, but religion no.
A mind is like a parachute...It only works when it's open!
What time are you speaking of?
From what book did you read that from?
I was speaking of this idea of doing away with religion. That you feel most people are really good on the inside. Without religion, then the rulers of this earth would only want to do what is best for mankind. This "Star Trek" utopia. Do you really believe that people would do what is right in that situation.
Would you trust anyone to rule then? Or would it be only certain people? And how would you choose who those people were? Would you have to come up with a set of rules?
And how would you keep that from becoming a religion?
Did taking religion out of our schools work? Before 1973 our schools faced serious problems like cutting in line, and chewing gum in class. Now we have teen pregnancy, drug deaths, suicide, and mass murder.
I am not sure how you think that people who get less Christian, become better people.
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MikeHD: What time are you speaking of?
From what book did you read that from?
I was speaking of this idea of doing away with religion. That you feel most people are really good on the inside. Without religion, then the rulers of this earth would only want to do what is best for mankind. This "Star Trek" utopia. Do you really believe that people would do what is right in that situation.
Would you trust anyone to rule then? Or would it be only certain people? And how would you choose who those people were? Would you have to come up with a set of rules?
And how would you keep that from becoming a religion?
Did taking religion out of our schools work? Before 1973 our schools faced serious problems like cutting in line, and chewing gum in class. Now we have teen pregnancy, drug deaths, suicide, and mass murder.
I am not sure how you think that people who get less Christian, become better people.
From what book did you read that from?
I was speaking of this idea of doing away with religion. That you feel most people are really good on the inside. Without religion, then the rulers of this earth would only want to do what is best for mankind. This "Star Trek" utopia. Do you really believe that people would do what is right in that situation.
Would you trust anyone to rule then? Or would it be only certain people? And how would you choose who those people were? Would you have to come up with a set of rules?
And how would you keep that from becoming a religion?
Did taking religion out of our schools work? Before 1973 our schools faced serious problems like cutting in line, and chewing gum in class. Now we have teen pregnancy, drug deaths, suicide, and mass murder.
I am not sure how you think that people who get less Christian, become better people.
I don't use one book as a source...As someone with a fair amount of intelligence I have used many books...In fact I have quite a large collection and library of them.
You are still mixing in politics with religion. Politics has always been a major problem in this world (1000 years) along with religion at least in the last (2500 years).
MikeHD: Did taking religion out of our schools work? Before 1973 our schools faced serious problems like cutting in line, and chewing gum in class. Now we have teen pregnancy, drug deaths, suicide, and mass murder.
These things have nothing to do with religion being in or out of schools. It has to do with politics, parenting, economics and the board of education. Kids today are not taught values, morals and principles. It's a me generation and everything should be handed to them on a silver platter instead of them having to work for it.
Kids have nothing constructive to do with their time...They haven't been taught. Teen pregnancy is high because of that not to mention the fact that it's also a cry for help. They want someone to love and to love them.
Drugs and drug deaths...Escape route from reality...look around you...Kids today have no coping skills they haven't been taught. Parents don't take the time to teach them or they don't have the time to teach them because they're too busy trying to provide a roof over the heads of their family and food on the table. Again it boils down to wanting the love and attention that they aren't getting and if they're numb they forget about it for a while. What they don't realize is how much it affects those around them that do love them and the ones that love them are helpless to do anything about it because they have no authority over them. The government took that away.
Suicide...The easy way out...Young, old, middle aged...it knows no boundaries. Many see it as the only alternative due to the way things are especially right now with the economy. People are losing their homes and jobs etc etc. they feel the only way to provide for their family is their life insurance policy. When it's the young ones it's more or less the fact that they feel they are a burden and it would be better off if they weren't around.
Mass murder...Well what do you want when they shut down psychiatric hospitals and allow people to roam the streets without medical help or medications to control their mental state.
Chewing gum in class is laughable...it's a whole lot better than smoking in class.
This earth is billions of years old. Religion and politics have not been a part of it until the recent 2-3,000 years.
I think you need to better arm yourself with more than just a bible and expand your knowledge a little.
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Serenity1971: I don't use one book as a source...As someone with a fair amount of intelligence I have used many books...In fact I have quite a large collection and library of them.
You are still mixing in politics with religion. Politics has always been a major problem in this world (1000 years) along with religion at least in the last (2500 years).
These things have nothing to do with religion being in or out of schools. It has to do with politics, parenting, economics and the board of education. Kids today are not taught values, morals and principles. It's a me generation and everything should be handed to them on a silver platter instead of them having to work for it.
Kids have nothing constructive to do with their time...They haven't been taught. Teen pregnancy is high because of that not to mention the fact that it's also a cry for help. They want someone to love and to love them.
Drugs and drug deaths...Escape route from reality.................
You are still mixing in politics with religion. Politics has always been a major problem in this world (1000 years) along with religion at least in the last (2500 years).
These things have nothing to do with religion being in or out of schools. It has to do with politics, parenting, economics and the board of education. Kids today are not taught values, morals and principles. It's a me generation and everything should be handed to them on a silver platter instead of them having to work for it.
Kids have nothing constructive to do with their time...They haven't been taught. Teen pregnancy is high because of that not to mention the fact that it's also a cry for help. They want someone to love and to love them.
Drugs and drug deaths...Escape route from reality.................
That deserves a lot of things........
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nacreous: Imagine No religion,
its easy if you try
nothing to kill or die for...
peace, man.
its easy if you try
nothing to kill or die for...
peace, man.
Beautiful song, beautiful words.
It's been almost 40 (37) years later. I wonder what all the people who were touched by this song are actually doing to make it come true.
This is not directed at you Nacreous, but most hear this song and say "beautiful", "That's right", and "Well done", and then go back to their lives exactly as before, and nothing changes.
Has this song changed you?
If I believed this song were possible, I would leave Christianity right now.
Do you believe it is possible for everyman to stop being selfish, to stop lying, to stop hating, and to stop being greedy all on his own? That we are all capable of never doing one wrong thing again? Then why doesn't one person stand up and show us how? Why can't someone become an example to the rest of us?
And if that one person did, would you believe in him, to choose to find a reason not to?
Kinda makes me think of Jesus.
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Serenity1971: I don't use one book as a source...As someone with a fair amount of intelligence I have used many books...In fact I have quite a large collection and library of them.
You are still mixing in politics with religion. Politics has always been a major problem in this world (1000 years) along with religion at least in the last (2500 years).
These things have nothing to do with religion being in or out of schools. It has to do with politics, parenting, economics and the board of education. Kids today are not taught values, morals and principles. It's a me generation and everything should be handed to them on a silver platter instead of them having to work for it.
Kids have nothing constructive to do with their time...They haven't been taught. Teen pregnancy is high because of that not to mention the fact that it's also a cry for help. They want someone to love and to love them.
Drugs and drug deaths...Escape route from reality...look around you...Kids today have no coping skills they haven't been taught. Parents don't take the time to teach them or they don't have the time to teach them because they're too busy trying to provide a roof over the heads of their family and food on the table. Again it boils down to wanting the love and attention that they aren't getting and if they're numb they forget about it for a while. What they don't realize is how much it affects those around them that do love them and the ones that love them are helpless to do anything about it because they have no authority over them. The government took that away.
Suicide...The easy way out...Young, old, middle aged...it knows no boundaries. Many see it as the only alternative due to the way things are especially right now with the economy. People are losing their homes and jobs etc etc. they feel the only way to provide for their family is their life insurance policy. When it's the young ones it's more or less the fact that they feel they are a burden and it would be better off if they weren't around.
Mass murder...Well what do you want when they shut down psychiatric hospitals and allow people to roam the streets
without medical help or medications to control their mental state.
Chewing gum in class is laughable...it's a whole lot better than smoking in class.
This earth is billions of years old. Religion and politics have not been a part of it until the recent 2-3,000 years.
I think you need to better arm yourself with more than just a bible and expand your knowledge a little.
Oh wait that would defeat your purpose wouldn't it...You'd rather stay narrow minded
You are still mixing in politics with religion. Politics has always been a major problem in this world (1000 years) along with religion at least in the last (2500 years).
These things have nothing to do with religion being in or out of schools. It has to do with politics, parenting, economics and the board of education. Kids today are not taught values, morals and principles. It's a me generation and everything should be handed to them on a silver platter instead of them having to work for it.
Kids have nothing constructive to do with their time...They haven't been taught. Teen pregnancy is high because of that not to mention the fact that it's also a cry for help. They want someone to love and to love them.
Drugs and drug deaths...Escape route from reality...look around you...Kids today have no coping skills they haven't been taught. Parents don't take the time to teach them or they don't have the time to teach them because they're too busy trying to provide a roof over the heads of their family and food on the table. Again it boils down to wanting the love and attention that they aren't getting and if they're numb they forget about it for a while. What they don't realize is how much it affects those around them that do love them and the ones that love them are helpless to do anything about it because they have no authority over them. The government took that away.
Suicide...The easy way out...Young, old, middle aged...it knows no boundaries. Many see it as the only alternative due to the way things are especially right now with the economy. People are losing their homes and jobs etc etc. they feel the only way to provide for their family is their life insurance policy. When it's the young ones it's more or less the fact that they feel they are a burden and it would be better off if they weren't around.
Mass murder...Well what do you want when they shut down psychiatric hospitals and allow people to roam the streets
without medical help or medications to control their mental state.
Chewing gum in class is laughable...it's a whole lot better than smoking in class.
This earth is billions of years old. Religion and politics have not been a part of it until the recent 2-3,000 years.
I think you need to better arm yourself with more than just a bible and expand your knowledge a little.
Oh wait that would defeat your purpose wouldn't it...You'd rather stay narrow minded
Isaac Newton, Pascal, Kepler, Galileo, Bacon, Lord Kelvin, James Clerk Maxwell, John Ambrose Fleming, Ralph Waldo Emerson, H.G. Wells, Robert Louis Stevenson, Alfred Lord Tennyson, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, George Lyttleton, Gilbert West, Frank Morison, Malcolm Muggeridge, and William Ramsey.
All considered some of the greatest contributors to our society. All considered extremely intelligent men.
And all I would guess you would consider closed minded.
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And this library of books you draw upon, do they all agree?
Have you developed this line of thinking by discovering that all these authors have come together to give the world one incredibly synonymous revelation?
Or is the sum of your logic bits and pieces taken from these authors (just your favorites or the ones you agree with), and disregarded the parts where all these people do not agree?
Just curious to find the titles and authors of these books that all agree.
Like the Bible does.
Have you developed this line of thinking by discovering that all these authors have come together to give the world one incredibly synonymous revelation?
Or is the sum of your logic bits and pieces taken from these authors (just your favorites or the ones you agree with), and disregarded the parts where all these people do not agree?
Just curious to find the titles and authors of these books that all agree.
Like the Bible does.
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MikeHD: Isaac Newton, Pascal, Kepler, Galileo, Bacon, Lord Kelvin, James Clerk Maxwell, John Ambrose Fleming, Ralph Waldo Emerson, H.G. Wells, Robert Louis Stevenson, Alfred Lord Tennyson, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, George Lyttleton, Gilbert West, Frank Morison, Malcolm Muggeridge, and William Ramsey.
All considered some of the greatest contributors to our society. All considered extremely intelligent men.
And all I would guess you would consider closed minded.
All considered some of the greatest contributors to our society. All considered extremely intelligent men.
And all I would guess you would consider closed minded.
Nope I wouldn't consider them closed minded. Now add in Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, Socrates, Aristotle, Naom Chomsky, Anaxagoras, Plato, Franz Mesmer, Arthur Conan Doyle, Abdul Alhazred, Nathan of Gaza, William Blake, Allister Crowley, J.G. Heck, Aldrovandus, J. Sluper, Leonardo da Vinci and there are many many more that I can list...Shall I go on with cultures and peoples?
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If you believe the Bible is only partially right, then why would you believe in any of it? What is the percent of the Bible you believe to be true?
I do not know why anyone would believe any one person who had a habit of lying. Even if this person told the truth most of the time. If you knew he was prone to lying, then how could you trust him.
If you cannot trust what the Bible says, then what is the point.
Do you just believe the parts you agree with? Is it just the parts that sound good to you? And if you do not agree, then does that mean it must not be true?
What part of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit do you not understand?
The part that they all are God? God the Father, God the Son, and God the Spirit. All God.