We do have to remember that republicans had control of both houses and if anyone spoke against the war they were unpatriotic. Who bought that BS....fear, fear, fear is all people heard on the media. Remeber what happened to Max Cleveland over one vote, the same vote other Republicans voted for. And Tom Daschel who dared to speak out.
The republican strategy now and has been character assasination and fear mongering.
And Karl Rove, the former political adviser to President Bush who is quietly consulting with McCain's top strategists, offered this piece of advice in his column in the Wall Street Journal.
"Mr. McCain will be helped if he uses Mr. Obama's actions to paint his opponent as someone driven by an all-powerful instinct to look out only for himself," Rove wrote Thursday. "In a contest over who is willing to put principle above personal ambition and self-interest, John McCain, a war hero and a former POW, wins hands down."
Mark Rozell, a professor of political science at George Mason University, said the similarity of the attacks suggests a concerted effort to "build a picture" about Obama's character before the political newcomer has a chance to convince people of the truth of his rhetoric.
"These things are always orchestrated," Rozell said. "I have no doubt there has been a running conversation within Republican circles about what the theme should be in going after Obama and how that theme could be reinforced."
Is the media in on it? Solitare, if you read this is just struck me how often you talk about the media's role in our Government....and you are so right.
Mon Jun 30, 9:03 AM Pacific What Wesley Clark Really Said About John McCain
"How the Media Vote. Surveys of journalists’ self-reported voting habits show them backing the Democratic candidate in every presidential election since 1964, including landslide losers George McGovern, Walter Mondale and Michael Dukakis. In 2004, a poll conducted by the University of Connecticut found journalists backed John Kerry over George W. Bush by a greater than two-to-one margin.
Journalists’ Political Views. Compared to their audiences, journalists are far more likely to say they are Democrats or liberals, and they espouse liberal positions on a wide variety of issues.
A 2004 poll by the Pew Research Center for The People & The Press found five times more journalists described themselves as “liberal” as said they were “conservative.” The Media Research Center...
Just be careful what you read people....and think for yourselves...
Useless pointing Fingers,all hands were in the Cookiejar. I f there had been Methylene-Blue in that Cookiejar,Senate AND Congress would walk around DC with BLUE Hands. To lazy to read a Piece of Legislation concerning the Constitution! Or as Guilty as the Perpetrators of the Document. Ayn Rand said in one of her Books,that """Mistakes""" of this kind are never made INNOCENTLY. They all had an Axe to grind,namely--POWERGRAB--The ADMIN immediately,the Opposition hedging it's Bets::uhoh:
Conrad73: Useless pointing Fingers,all hands were in the Cookiejar. I f there had been Methylene-Blue in that Cookiejar,Senate AND Congress would walk around DC with BLUE Hands. To lazy to read a Piece of Legislation concerning the Constitution! Or as Guilty as the Perpetrators of the Document. Ayn Rand said in one of her Books,that """Mistakes""" of this kind are never made INNOCENTLY. They all had an Axe to grind,namely--POWERGRAB--The ADMIN immediately,the Opposition hedging it's Bets:
None of their Hands are clean,Neither Side of the Isle!!!!!
To me, the Patriot Act isn't so much to stop terrorism in america. I think it's so the government can look in on disgruntled americans who don't like the way the country is being run and keeping tabs on anyone trying organize things such as protest rallies and the formation of potential militias. The Bush "administration"wants nobody in the way of them bleeding every cent they can out of this country. Call me a cynic..I don't care. it's what I believe
rasgumby: I must also say.. Our congress is guilty also!
Bush ram rodded this through....... Congress should have said NO!! We will not pass this until we completely understand it.
The point is.. we need to withdraw it.. get our rights back.
The problem is..so much that's put before Congress is so long, drawn out, and filled with so much pork, no one takes the time to read it. And the bill usually shows up when everyone is ready to leave for vacation, so it just gets signed. Now that's gutless.
Raymond1953: To me, the Patriot Act isn't so much to stop terrorism in america. I think it's so the government can look in on disgruntled americans who don't like the way the country is being run and keeping tabs on anyone trying organize things such as protest rallies and the formation of potential militias. The Bush "administration"wants nobody in the way of them bleeding every cent they can out of this country. Call me a cynic..I don't care. it's what I believe
Will be very revealing what a Possible future Democrat ADMIN is going to do with it,until then NOBODY'S hands are clean. DUPED???YEAH;RIGHT!!!!!!
Raymond1953: The problem is..so much that's put before Congress is so long, drawn out, and filled with so much pork, no one takes the time to read it. And the bill usually shows up when everyone is ready to leave for vacation, so it just gets signed. Now that's gutless.
Bush has broken 750 laws by always adding onto the bill himself before he signs them. He just has that power. He gave it to himself.
And who are these all-powerful masters of the media? As we shall see, to a very large extent they are Jews. It isn't simply a matter of the media being controlled by profit-hungry capitalists, some of whom happen to be Jews. If that were the case, the ethnicity of the media masters would reflect, at least approximately, the ratio of rich Gentiles to rich Jews. Despite a few prominent exceptions, the preponderance of Jews in the media is so overwhelming that we are obliged to assume that it is due to more than mere happenstance.
Jewish Media-Control PROFILE OF A JEWISH MEDIA BOSS
ONE THE WORLD’S WEALTHIEST AND MOST POWERFUL JEWISH MEDIA BOSSES SPEAKS OUT.
An old acquaintance recently was fired from his media job after he wrote in an article that one of the first things America should do to be free again was 'to declare independence from Israel'....yeah, right...'freedom of the press' really means 'We print all the news that we see fit to print for you'...
Why is Obama voting yes? I know it would pass without his yes vote and they would make him look very weak in the eyes of the fearful if he didn't. But I would like to believe if he was not the presidential canidate that he would vote on what I believed his principles were.
Zeelander: All I can say is..... I haven't been arrested yet, so it has to be a good thing.
Zee
Don't count your blessings yet! With that goat tee thing going there..if you put on a baseball cap backwards you will look a bit like Bin laden,, You might be next
Indyfella: I won't ask foreigners, as the Patriot act doesn't effect them...but Ras, what freedom did you lose since 2001? Call me curious?
Don't worry my American friends, we have legislation just like the Pariot act here in Canada. I guess the Canadian government didn't want to feel left out in locking people up without charges. I say give it a few more years and they are going to take away our right to breathe.
tampa1: Don't worry my American friends, we have legislation just like the Pariot act here in Canada. I guess the Canadian government didn't want to feel left out in locking people up without charges. I say give it a few more years and they are going to take away our right to breathe.
No doubt there probably needs to be some changes in the Patriot Act. But, for 08, it's all political spin at play. Meanwhile....I'm more concerned about 4.00 gas.
There's no way to attack Barak. He's said his religeon is off limits, his patriotism is off limits, his political wife is off limits, his values are off limits. He's done a good job of tefloning himself.
I suppose they could may libelous attacks against his dog.
rasgumby: want to know the truth? Will give more detail soon. but do you realize any American can be detained indefinitely without any charges. and the supreme court rulings are void if regards to the patriot act!
The president swore to Preserve,protect and Defend the constitution . then threw it out the window.
Yeah, I'm scared right now. I've been chatting with a guy who says he knows a group and could protect me. As far as our country goes, that makes him an accessory to a terrorist group and I'm sure they've read my e-mail.
Wouldn't be the first time I've had the DoD investigate me. They used to record all my calls, 20 years ago. Remember this statement, if I contact this group from Guantanamo Bay.
The Supreme Court actually over-turned part of the statutes allowing the US to hold people indefinitely, without charges, recently.
muppetkiller: Yeah, I'm scared right now. I've been chatting with a guy who says he knows a group and could protect me. As far as our country goes, that makes him an accessory to a terrorist group and I'm sure they've read my e-mail.
Wouldn't be the first time I've had the DoD investigate me. They used to record all my calls, 20 years ago. Remember this statement, if I contact this group from Guantanamo Bay.
The Supreme Court actually over-turned part of the statutes allowing the US to hold people indefinitely, without charges, recently.
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The republican strategy now and has been character assasination and fear mongering.
Dirty-Bomb politics
GOP Sharpens Attacks on Obama
And Karl Rove, the former political adviser to President Bush who is quietly consulting with McCain's top strategists, offered this piece of advice in his column in the Wall Street Journal.
"Mr. McCain will be helped if he uses Mr. Obama's actions to paint his opponent as someone driven by an all-powerful instinct to look out only for himself," Rove wrote Thursday. "In a contest over who is willing to put principle above personal ambition and self-interest, John McCain, a war hero and a former POW, wins hands down."
Mark Rozell, a professor of political science at George Mason University, said the similarity of the attacks suggests a concerted effort to "build a picture" about Obama's character before the political newcomer has a chance to convince people of the truth of his rhetoric.
"These things are always orchestrated," Rozell said. "I have no doubt there has been a running conversation within Republican circles about what the theme should be in going after Obama and how that theme could be reinforced."
Is the media in on it? Solitare, if you read this is just struck me how often you talk about the media's role in our Government....and you are so right.
Mon Jun 30, 9:03 AM Pacific
What Wesley Clark Really Said About John McCain
I say go Obama go and let the lobbyist loving McCain whine.