I am curious ... (21)

Jul 18, 2008 3:22 PM CST I am curious ...
Assets52
Assets52Assets52Littleton, New Hampshire USA125 Threads 2,174 Posts
I posted this in the international forums but it was suggested I post it here to get more of a response.




Working in the hospitality industry I have many opportunities to meet folks from all over the world. One of the things I like best about my job.

I recently chatted with several families from England and the UK. What we find rather pricey in the US, these families found very inexpensive. We americans complain about our gas prices being $4.00/gallon and the family from England said their gas is $15.00/gallon.

I also notice in the forums there seem to be more get togethers overseas, where a bit of traveling is involved than in the US.

My question is how do you manage with costs being much higher? Are the wages much higher than the US?
Jul 18, 2008 3:28 PM CST I am curious ...
Jan1305
Jan1305Jan1305Sunshine and vino, Murcia Spain170 Threads 5,319 Posts
Assets52: I posted this in the international forums but it was suggested I post it here to get more of a response.

Working in the hospitality industry I have many opportunities to meet folks from all over the world. One of the things I like best about my job.

I recently chatted with several families from England and the UK. What we find rather pricey in the US, these families found very inexpensive. We americans complain about our gas prices being $4.00/gallon and the family from England said their gas is $15.00/gallon.

I also notice in the forums there seem to be more get togethers overseas, where a bit of traveling is involved than in the US.

My question is how do you manage with costs being much higher? Are the wages much higher than the US?


I think the overall cost of living is cheaper in Europe than the USA. We also have many budget airlines which offer fantastic deals on flights so we can literally get around Europe on a shoestring.
Jul 19, 2008 12:12 PM CST I am curious ...
guiriman
guirimanguirimansouth of milan, Lombardy Italy53 Threads 6 Polls 2,128 Posts
is that the extent of your curiosity, Assets52? conversing
Jul 19, 2008 12:36 PM CST I am curious ...
guiriman
guirimanguirimansouth of milan, Lombardy Italy53 Threads 6 Polls 2,128 Posts
you don't want to know what I can do with a bowl of custard and a matchstick then?rolling on the floor laughing



Assets52: I posted this in the international forums but it was suggested I post it here to get more of a response.

Working in the hospitality industry I have many opportunities to meet folks from all over the world. One of the things I like best about my job.

I recently chatted with several families from England and the UK. What we find rather pricey in the US, these families found very inexpensive. We americans complain about our gas prices being $4.00/gallon and the family from England said their gas is $15.00/gallon.

I also notice in the forums there seem to be more get togethers overseas, where a bit of traveling is involved than in the US.

My question is how do you manage with costs being much higher? Are the wages much higher than the US?
Jul 19, 2008 2:53 PM CST I am curious ...
Elley
ElleyElleyCadiz, Andalusia Spain131 Threads 1 Polls 2,808 Posts
He,ll tell you exactly what you can do with a bowl of custard and matchsticksrolling on the floor laughing Hi Q man, just jokin mate, how,s it hangin ?thumbs up
Jul 19, 2008 6:52 PM CST I am curious ...
issopui
issopuiissopuiKrefeld, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany6 Threads 135 Posts
Assets52: I posted this in the international forums but it was suggested I post it here to get more of a response.

Working in the hospitality industry I have many opportunities to meet folks from all over the world. One of the things I like best about my job.

I recently chatted with several families from England and the UK. What we find rather pricey in the US, these families found very inexpensive. We americans complain about our gas prices being $4.00/gallon and the family from England said their gas is $15.00/gallon.

I also notice in the forums there seem to be more get togethers overseas, where a bit of traveling is involved than in the US.

My question is how do you manage with costs being much higher? Are the wages much higher than the US?

I can say it's most more about offer here.where I am there is a word "Angebot " when u see such word oopsssssss u have to make sure not to miss it
motorcycle typing
Jul 19, 2008 10:52 PM CST I am curious ...
Nina3
Nina3Nina3Barcelona, Catalonia Spain16 Threads 3 Polls 919 Posts
guiriman: you don't want to know what I can do with a bowl of custard and a matchstick then?


The mind boggles... wow conversing



rolling on the floor laughing
Jul 20, 2008 2:27 AM CST I am curious ...
relaxin
relaxinrelaxinsomewhere, Queensland Australia33 Threads 3 Polls 1,371 Posts
Nina3: The mind boggles...


yes it sure does...

do tell please
Jul 20, 2008 6:06 AM CST I am curious ...
guiriman
guirimanguirimansouth of milan, Lombardy Italy53 Threads 6 Polls 2,128 Posts
relaxin: yes it sure does...

do tell please


I'm sure you can imaginerolling on the floor laughing
Jul 20, 2008 6:07 AM CST I am curious ...
guiriman
guirimanguirimansouth of milan, Lombardy Italy53 Threads 6 Polls 2,128 Posts
Elley: He,ll tell you exactly what you can do with a bowl of custard and matchsticks Hi Q man, just jokin mate, how,s it hangin ?


it s hangin' good mate. and you?cheers
Jul 20, 2008 1:29 PM CST I am curious ...
Nina3
Nina3Nina3Barcelona, Catalonia Spain16 Threads 3 Polls 919 Posts
guiriman: I'm sure you can imagine



Make a very small alternative downhill skiing slalom piste?

Test the flammability of vanilla flavoured desserts??

Do a road-handling-on-slippery-roads test course for toy cars???


NO - I can't imagine!!! Do tell!!


grin
Jul 20, 2008 2:11 PM CST I am curious ...
EnSilencio
EnSilencioEnSilencioAlmunecar, Andalusia Spain13 Threads 2 Polls 1,118 Posts
Nina3: Make a very small alternative downhill skiing slalom piste?


That one would work roll eyes
Jul 21, 2008 6:44 AM CST I am curious ...
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Assets52:
My question is how do you manage with costs being much higher? Are the wages much higher than the US?


I have noticed that people here, specifically CH, say it is worked out how much people need to earn to live decently, and then prescribed salaries are set in concrete...............with only slight fluctuations........
Jul 23, 2008 7:10 AM CST I am curious ...
relaxin
relaxinrelaxinsomewhere, Queensland Australia33 Threads 3 Polls 1,371 Posts
Nina3: Make a very small alternative downhill skiing slalom piste?

Test the flammability of vanilla flavoured desserts??

Do a road-handling-on-slippery-roads test course for toy cars???NO - I can't imagine!!! Do tell!!


rolling on the floor laughing confused great ideas

mind still boggling
Jul 25, 2008 3:39 PM CST I am curious ...
guiriman
guirimanguirimansouth of milan, Lombardy Italy53 Threads 6 Polls 2,128 Posts
Nina3: Make a very small alternative downhill skiing slalom piste?

Test the flammability of vanilla flavoured desserts??

Do a road-handling-on-slippery-roads test course for toy cars???NO - I can't imagine!!! Do tell!!


rolling on the floor laughing
erm no, no and no!
Jul 27, 2008 9:38 AM CST I am curious ...
plinyelder
plinyelderplinyelderLuxembourg, Luxembourg26 Posts
Assets52: I posted this in the international forums but it was suggested I post it here to get more of a response.

Working in the hospitality industry I have many opportunities to meet folks from all over the world. One of the things I like best about my job.

I recently chatted with several families from England and the UK. What we find rather pricey in the US, these families found very inexpensive. We americans complain about our gas prices being $4.00/gallon and the family from England said their gas is $15.00/gallon.

I also notice in the forums there seem to be more get togethers overseas, where a bit of traveling is involved than in the US.

My question is how do you manage with costs being much higher? Are the wages much higher than the US?





I'd recently read a book called Nickel and Diming in USA. There were stories of many many people in it - most holding down three jobs, sleeping in their cars, brutalised by superiors at work and without a penny of savings. Some American's still call it 'God's country' and how everyone is envious of their great nation.

It is true that, on average, in Europe we pay nearly 4 times for gas than you do in USA...we have done so for decades. Our cars use perhaps one third the metal that an american car uses and are highly fuel efficient compared to american cars.

There is also a thing called 'social security' in Europe which may have been unheard of before in America. There are minimum wages; strictly monitored work conditions; a thing called rmg ie.minimum guaranteed revenue which means that peoples without jobs or any other means are given the eqivalent of $1900 a month without taking into account further subsisdies if they have dependents etc. There is also mecical security - there is practically total medical coverage from visiting docyors, buying medication, hospitalisation as well as sending a patient to another European country by helicopter if the better treatment is avaible there. There are, depending upon your years of work, up to 55 working days of paid leave. Unemployment benefits are very generous. You cant simply hire and fire at will. The courts of justice will leave a compant throughly mangle if it does that. (Needless to say many American banks and companies here have tried it and some even lost their license to operate in Luxmbourg. And there are countless other smaller benefits, varying from country to country, that people are entitled to.

Because TVA (or value added tax), which are relatively high, any spike in basic commodities are buffered by this already high VAT. The wages in Europe are not the employer's whim. There are conventions and trade/management agreement all over Europe. Wages are, I think, significantly higher in the European Union - as long as an American here is being paid in Euros and not dollar denominated salary converted to Euros. Luxembourg, one of the smallest countries in Europe - may the world - the average per-capita (per living person) earns nearly a 100.000 US dollars. In American I think it is somewhere closer to 27.000 dollars. Anyway, I should re-check my facts because it's been a while but I dont think much of any significance has happened.

There are some other differences beteen the USA and the EU which I wont bring up now because they are rather political and cultural in nature, not purely economic.
Jul 27, 2008 10:20 AM CST I am curious ...
JM2008
JM2008JM2008Antwerpen, Belgium4 Posts
I am not sure, whether travelling around directly related to your earning.

I am travelling a lot for work with strong wish to work and find out any mean that would make you move, and then move and explore.

I completely agree that "things" related to travel would not depend only on economy but on the "mind" which means much more than we think.
Sep 20, 2008 4:14 PM CST I am curious ...
Tobson
TobsonTobsonTrier, Rhineland-Palatinate Germany1 Threads 10 Posts
Having lived in Europe and America (well "only" four months) in can make some realistic comparisons.
But be aware this is all seen from a students perspective so I can't/won't touch wages and paid holidays.
I can't deny that this makes my comparison kind of useless help

Europe:

-good food for less money (if I eat in the dining hall, I have to buy good food for about 10€/week(cheese,bread,butter,juice,yoguhrt))
-clothes and electronics is way more expensive
-dining out seems more expensive to me
-education is for free in most countries !!

USA:

-electronics is really cheap
-clothes are ULTRA cheap (not to mention that it is assembled in China/India anyways)
-good food in the supermarket is expensive (little piece of French cheese costs me 5 $)
-dining out is (not only the fast food stuff) seems to be less expensive to me.
-education is expensive

well I don't know, I think there is a balance but for a free education you better stay in Europecheers
Sep 20, 2008 4:14 PM CST I am curious ...
Tobson
TobsonTobsonTrier, Rhineland-Palatinate Germany1 Threads 10 Posts
Having lived in Europe and America (well "only" four months) in can make some realistic comparisons.
But be aware this is all seen from a students perspective so I can't/won't touch wages and paid holidays.
I can't deny that this makes my comparison kind of useless help

Europe:

-good food for less money (if I eat in the dining hall, I have to buy good food for about 10€/week(cheese,bread,butter,juice,yoguhrt))
-clothes and electronics is way more expensive
-dining out seems more expensive to me
-education is for free in most countries !!

USA:

-electronics is really cheap
-clothes are ULTRA cheap (not to mention that it is assembled in China/India anyways)
-good food in the supermarket is expensive (little piece of French cheese costs me 5 $)
-dining out is (not only the fast food stuff) seems to be less expensive to me.
-education is expensive

well I don't know, I think there is a balance but for a free education you better stay in Europecheers
Sep 21, 2008 1:35 AM CST I am curious ...
Elley: He,ll tell you exactly what you can do with a bowl of custard and matchsticks Hi Q man, just jokin mate, how,s it hangin ?


I want to know...
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