mindfful: i hate to be an elitist and i cringe what will be said but if little genius boy could just spell a mite better maybe i would be less easily irked???gaaaarhi al
im so ashamed
As I have stated in previous threads I have a mild form of dyslexia ,
crotalus_p: As I have stated in previous threads I have a mild form of dyslexia ,
Ive got dyslexia too C - doesnt actually bother me that much, dont use a spellchecker - it has opened my eyes to some of the stuff that other people crow about though
Dawn7z: As far as appreciating nature without creating a deity to go along with it who says all of us do? You are making unscientific assumptions about the faith of peeps in this discussion.
When replying to you I based my assumption on what you stated
Dawn7z: when faced with mortality man most people are going to want to live and are going to be seeking help. Common sense there buddy.
Common sense would dictate that if some one comes to a conclusion based on fear of death and not logic , said conclusion is illogical , your basic argument is that if you scare someone into thinking something it must be true that my dear is seriously flawed and a the basis of religious fundamentalism
cardsfan24: What a load of bull, i can't stand readin that crap, ughhh....
whatever man , ya know hate on religion all you want, your still going to be unhappy with whatever,
Hate on everyone else, and what they say ....you came after me in a smokin thread, you came after a few others, that's personal attacks...then you will copy and paste and quote the hell outta stuff thinkin it makes you look smart....
Why did you join the forums? to not try to listen to others points of view or to sit and antagonize ppl to where they just want to spit cusswords at ya man,
So you think religion is bull, ok YOUR BELIEF,
I believe Hulk Hogan was my favorite wrestler, and if it wasn't for Rocky then he woulnd't have made it that far....there is somethin for you to grasp and argue and cut and paste and quote and whatever...
Have a great day
why, when people are questioned or challenged on their views in debate, do people misconstrue the challenge as hate?
No one is trying to scare anyone into believing in a deity especially not moi lol. It was stating a situation that us beings, spirits and all those other illogical essences might respond to in a way to cry out to a deity. How does this constitute religious fundamentalism and please do not patronize me.
What I stated above was where do you have empirical evidence about others faith or what they are thinking when they behold something magnificent in the natural world.
crotalus_p: When replying to you I based my assumption on what you stated Common sense would dictate that if some one comes to a conclusion based on fear of death and not logic , said conclusion is illogical , your basic argument is that if you scare someone into thinking something it must be true that my dear is seriously flawed and a the basis of religious fundamentalism
replying to this. God bless you Crotalus. When you go to your local pub may he pour you an extra whiskey with a twinkle in his eye and whisper to you the secrets of your soul. lol
I enjoy your intellect Crotalus and regret that I have not spent more time in the sciences you are very enlightening in your own way. Hopefully it is all in good fun even though these are issues that touch the soul lol. I admit to much ignorance and definitely coming from a place of the soul rather than the natural world and seeming infallible evidence.
So in that vain good morning everyone. Teach on as at least i am teachable and am not full of hatred in any way lol.
BnaturAl: why, when people are questioned or challenged on their views in debate, do people misconstrue the challenge as hate?
misplaced anger?
just saying.
To quote Sam Haris ,
“Thousands of people have written to tell me that I am wrong not to believe in God. The most hostile of these communications have come from Christians. This is ironic, as Christians generally imagine that no faith imparts the virtues of love and forgiveness more effectively than their own. The truth is that many who claim to be transformed by Christ’s love are deeply, even murderously, intolerant of criticism."
crotalus_p: To quote Sam Haris ,“Thousands of people have written to tell me that I am wrong not to believe in God. The most hostile of these communications have come from Christians. This is ironic, as Christians generally imagine that no faith imparts the virtues of love and forgiveness more effectively than their own. The truth is that many who claim to be transformed by Christ’s love are deeply, even murderously, intolerant of criticism."
I could see that in some ways as people have fear of the very core of their lives being shaken. Yet over the years as a Christian up till about two years ago, some of the most giving, loving and self-sacrificing people have been those who are believers. Goes to show there are all kinds of peeps and you can't box em up and throw a label on them.
One of the most beautiful beings that ever was: Mother Theresa. Her name personifies love and self sacrifice.
In my hometown of Salem, Oregon there is an older man by the name of Bob Fritz, he is a Evangelical Christian and a minister and he works with the peeps on the streets of Salem. He glows of love and kindness as he just helps people and cares for them while having belief in the divine. I know I was in that ministry to the homeless with him. When all is said an done aren't there just those people that soul's radiate so much that we can swear that God is one of us.
crotalus_p: To quote Sam Haris ,“Thousands of people have written to tell me that I am wrong not to believe in God. The most hostile of these communications have come from Christians. This is ironic, as Christians generally imagine that no faith imparts the virtues of love and forgiveness more effectively than their own. The truth is that many who claim to be transformed by Christ’s love are deeply, even murderously, intolerant of criticism."
I think this can be applied to most of the world major religions if not all
crotalus_p: To quote Sam Haris ,“Thousands of people have written to tell me that I am wrong not to believe in God. The most hostile of these communications have come from Christians. This is ironic, as Christians generally imagine that no faith imparts the virtues of love and forgiveness more effectively than their own. The truth is that many who claim to be transformed by Christ’s love are deeply, even murderously, intolerant of criticism."
Some folks are not in touch with their own feelings and absent mindedly attempt to transfer those feelings to others. I don't think its just christians, its many people with many views.
I have to admit, I am at times frustrated by your linear logic only approach, but I recognize it as my own frustration, in attempting to have you grasp conceptual indicators.
On the other hand you do sometimes place small demeaning phrases, intimating some stupidity in others who don't see your linear logic, in your posts dude, which does make someone's anger righteous.
Dawn7z: I could see that in some ways as people have fear of the very core of their lives being shaken. Yet over the years as a Christian up till about two years ago, some of the most giving, loving and self-sacrificing people have been those who are believers. Goes to show there are all kinds of peeps and you can't box em up and throw a label on them.
One of the most beautiful beings that ever was: Mother Theresa. Her name personifies love and self sacrifice.
In my hometown of Salem, Oregon there is an older man by the name of Bob Fritz, he is a Evangelical Christian and a minister and he works with the peeps on the streets of Salem. He glows of love and kindness as he just helps people and cares for them while having belief in the divine. I know I was in that ministry to the homeless with him. When all is said an done aren't there just those people that soul's radiate so much that we can swear that God is one of us.
there are some people who through their views of the universe tap that universal love and do good things, and who cares whether they are tapping a single deity or the universal energy, its the manifestation of good that counts.
Because a number of so called religious folks have tarnished the sense of god (no matter who or what that is to you) doesn't mean good things can't come from whatever you believe.
crotalus_p: Mother Theresa was no friend of the poor , she was however a great friend of poverty (that is a whole other thread )No , (Sorry but it’s short and to the point )
Then I guess it must just be gas. lol Sorry beg to differ dude
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im gonna go lie down and cry now
see ya later