what if god really was one of us (558)
Dream theory is very interesting what little I understand of it. Most of us know nothing we just fake it and act like we do.
Dusty45: If 'this is a dream' theory could possibly be correct, then, Jesus knew this all along and later woke up
from the 'dream'. He would have known that there would be no real pain to his crucifixion (sp).
I don't know. I know nothing.
from the 'dream'. He would have known that there would be no real pain to his crucifixion (sp).
I don't know. I know nothing.
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Dawn7z: Short hair where did you get that from? .
It says some where in the bible that it is an affront on to nature for a man to have long hair
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Dawn7z: For one thing is you have read the Bible it does allude to God as a protector. Now I have not read the Koran or other books but read Psalms 139 its about him being omniscient and omnipresent. The Psalms of David, or mostly written by David talk about God as protector. All through the Bible God is alluded to on many levels. Starting in Genesis that man is created in his image right to Revelation where he will come back and judge.
Thanks for that you are truly mischievous lol. Why go to extremes saying that if there isn't a God we must just be carbon chemistry or made up simply of cells what if the answer of where we come from is none of the above lol.
You don't scare me. Look around at your loved ones and tell me that you don't see the precious in them. Am calling your bluff. We all both light and shadow it is up to us which we walk out in this life .
I see extremes in your arguments between people blaming God and wanting to see him as benevolent. They are in mine too.
Thanks for that you are truly mischievous lol. Why go to extremes saying that if there isn't a God we must just be carbon chemistry or made up simply of cells what if the answer of where we come from is none of the above lol.
You don't scare me. Look around at your loved ones and tell me that you don't see the precious in them. Am calling your bluff. We all both light and shadow it is up to us which we walk out in this life .
I see extremes in your arguments between people blaming God and wanting to see him as benevolent. They are in mine too.
Hmmmm tough one Dawn....NOT.
God as a protector? Ok...go out into the street and step in front of a bus....
Assuming you did that, and lived....he didn't help you did he?
He is not your/our "protector". God helps those who help themselves...
Don't build homes in known flood zones...don't build homes on the sides of volcanoes....don't walk out in front of big, moving objects....see? That was easy!
Of course I see the precious in my son! He is my son! But he is not yours...or anyone elses...most others could care less about him! Its up to ME to set him on the right path...at least, to help him find the right path for him....but thats up to no one else....
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trish123: It was ok then for the pagans etc to be burnt at the stake - were their rights to life and liberty not inalienable too and were they not persecuted because of the beliefs of others - I actually find a great irony in the fears some of you are voicing here like as in, its ok to dish it out in selfrighteousness but eating humble pie is a completely different matter??
Hmmm...ok...how much of that happened AFTER the Constitution and Bill of Rights were established here in America?
Zero...thank you.
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Dawn7z: Short hair where did you get that from? Yeah I think if most of us consider that he was Mediterranean we would figure that out and I hope they would know he was a Jew. He has many titles. Thanks for the added clarity.
Not titles.....his names!
It was a shame for a Jew at that time too have long hair. It is in the Bible!
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BnaturAl: how do the children of these 'stupid' people get blamed ... or say the handicapped, or the poor who cant afford to move, or how about countries where there is no were else to go?
arrogance? christ's--> sake.
arrogance? christ's--> sake.
Do they not have a GOVERNMENT?
Is it not the place of GOVERNMENT to help look out for its citizens?
Doesn't government exist at the behest of the people? And NOT the other way around? Which IS the reality in almost every country on the globe!
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BnaturAl: how do the children of these 'stupid' people get blamed ... or say the handicapped, or the poor who cant afford to move, or how about countries where there is no were else to go?
arrogance? christ's--> sake.
arrogance? christ's--> sake.
In America, whose fault is it if a child gets into daddys dresser drawer and pulls out his .38 and blows himself away?
Shouldn't the parent have thought AHEAD? Shouldn't the parent have THOUGHT about this?
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Dawn7z: Dream theory is very interesting what little I understand of it. Most of us know nothing we just fake it and act like we do.
I think there are paths chosen that make it easier on the 'chooser'. Learning to be non-judgmental is a
tough one but an altruistic choice -- better for all in the long run and probably a good choice to make for
oneself.
Some great information on this subject is written by Deepak Chopra. He is a great physician who
writes extensively on ... mind, body and spirit ...
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BnaturAl: then, who made the first greater intelligence and then what even greater intelligence made that one and so on ..until you run out of greatest intelligences... you can guess that too.
Yea yea...the chicken or the egg theory....we will find out when we "die".....
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HondoLaneNJ: Hmmm...ok...how much of that happened AFTER the Constitution and Bill of Rights were established here in America? Zero...thank you.
when it happened isnt the issue - its more a case of people still adhere to an organisation which carried out inestimable atrocities in the name of its leader - whom they refer to as 'holy' - its beyond me..........
zero - for sure........
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trish123: when it happened isnt the issue - its more a case of people still adhere to an organisation which carried out inestimable atrocities in the name of its leader - whom they refer to as 'holy' - its beyond me..........
zero - for sure........
zero - for sure........
Well yea...I understand that...but I think they have kinda grown beyond all that burning at the stake stuff....
I think its illegal now...or else, your right.....they would still be doing it...
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HondoLaneNJ: Well yea...I understand that...but I think they have kinda grown beyond all that burning at the stake stuff....
I think its illegal now...or else, your right.....they would still be doing it...
I think its illegal now...or else, your right.....they would still be doing it...
Im not gonna track back to the thread Hondo - it riled me then but I got over it
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HondoLaneNJ: Do they not have a GOVERNMENT?
Is it not the place of GOVERNMENT to help look out for its citizens?
Doesn't government exist at the behest of the people? And NOT the other way around? Which IS the reality in almost every country on the globe!
Is it not the place of GOVERNMENT to help look out for its citizens?
Doesn't government exist at the behest of the people? And NOT the other way around? Which IS the reality in almost every country on the globe!
on who's planet does this happen?
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HondoLaneNJ: In America, whose fault is it if a child gets into daddys dresser drawer and pulls out his .38 and blows himself away?
Shouldn't the parent have thought AHEAD? Shouldn't the parent have THOUGHT about this?
Shouldn't the parent have thought AHEAD? Shouldn't the parent have THOUGHT about this?
you keep forgetting that you said god made people, even stupid people ... shouldn't god have THOUGHT about this?
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1CherokeeMan: If god were one of us, I'd want him to be my best friend.
I would agree
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Jed (Malice 1993): I have an M.D. from Harvard, I am board certified in cardio-thoracic medicine and trauma surgery, I have been awarded citations from seven different medical boards in New England, and I am never, ever sick at sea. So I ask you; when someone goes into that chapel and they fall on their knees and they pray to God that their wife doesn't miscarry or that their daughter doesn't bleed to death or that their mother doesn't suffer acute neural trama from postoperative shock, who do you think they're praying to? Now, go ahead and read your Bible, _Dennis_, and you go to your church, and, with any luck, you might win the annual raffle, but if you're looking for God, he was in operating room number two on November 17, and he doesn't like to be second guessed. You ask me if I have a God complex. Let me tell you something: I am God.
There you go....
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IF he knows all things ... then he knows he is making stupid people and he knows what stupid people will do (with their not so free will) and he also knows he's going to smite them for being that same stupid that he made them into. I would jump off that bus if I were you, being stupid apparently means you'll be smote ..
Ummmm...Noah had free will...and HE didn't die....his followers and the animals didn't die...
Even stupid people have free will...they have the free will to become less stupid...less ignorant...why don't they exercise it?
Who says He knows ALL things? I don't think He knows what I'm thinking. Or what I'm going to exercise my free will and choose to do next....Giving us free will frees him of needing too.....
I like the bus....beats walking....