U.S. Intelligence Sees It Russia’s Way (16)
jetdevil2001: American intelligence confirms that the latest military actions in South Ossetia were started by Georgia and Russia’s position in the conflict was correct, says Republican California Congressman Dana Rohrabacher. He said the situation reminded him of the Bay of Tonkin incident, which the U.S. used as a pretext for beginning the war in Vietnam.
"The Russians are right! We're wrong! Georgia started it, the Russians ended it," Rohrabacher said at a hearing in the House of Representatives.
Assistant Secretary of State Dan Fried said U.S. intelligence was still working on an exact chronology of the events of August 7 to verify Georgian claims that Russian forces were in Roki Tunnel, linking Russia to South Ossetia, before Georgia attacked. Fried said that the Bush administration had forcefully and repeatedly warned the Georgians against beginning military actions against Russia, and he was unable to say why Georgia chose to ignore that advice.
Nonetheless, Fried acknowledged that supporting Georgia was in U.S. interests, even if it considers the countries actions foolish.
Russia acknowledged the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia on August 26. Those republics requested that recognition after Georgian forces almost completely ruined Tskhinvali, the capital of South Ossetia, in the course of the event of August 8-12. More than 1500 civilians were killed in that time, according to South Ossetian authorities.
"The Russians are right! We're wrong! Georgia started it, the Russians ended it," Rohrabacher said at a hearing in the House of Representatives.
Assistant Secretary of State Dan Fried said U.S. intelligence was still working on an exact chronology of the events of August 7 to verify Georgian claims that Russian forces were in Roki Tunnel, linking Russia to South Ossetia, before Georgia attacked. Fried said that the Bush administration had forcefully and repeatedly warned the Georgians against beginning military actions against Russia, and he was unable to say why Georgia chose to ignore that advice.
Nonetheless, Fried acknowledged that supporting Georgia was in U.S. interests, even if it considers the countries actions foolish.
Russia acknowledged the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia on August 26. Those republics requested that recognition after Georgian forces almost completely ruined Tskhinvali, the capital of South Ossetia, in the course of the event of August 8-12. More than 1500 civilians were killed in that time, according to South Ossetian authorities.
Can you provide an unbiased link for this info?
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That didn't stop us from sending Georgia a billion dolars to rebuild the place. We should ask one country or another to invade us so we can get some help. They can even capture the prez and hold him for ransom. Not that they'd get much for him but it's the thought that counts.
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Don216: Can you provide an unbiased link for this info?
here are two links but the 2nd one stopped working five hours
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jetdevil2001: here are two links but the 2nd one stopped working five hours
Uh kommersant.com is hardly unbiased, it is a Russian daily online site. There is an article here but not the one you've posted.
The other site made no mention of US Intelligence.
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Skybow: Uh kommersant.com is hardly unbiased, it is a Russian daily online site. There is an article here but not the one you've posted.
The other site made no mention of US Intelligence.
The other site made no mention of US Intelligence.
Do you suppose there's a lack thereof?
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kidatheart: Do you suppose there's a lack thereof?
Well Kid I know sense isn't common and intelligence doesn't mean wisdom. That much I know for sure.
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Skybow: Uh kommersant.com is hardly unbiased, it is a Russian daily online site. There is an article here but not the one you've posted.
The other site made no mention of US Intelligence.
The other site made no mention of US Intelligence.
The idea Russian press is controlled by government is mistaken, rather then US press, where I found they all were under government or trusted the information that came from Georgia not taking into account the second side, I saw in the news that speech of Dana Rohrabacher, but I am sure you will never find this info anywhere else even if you try, everything is got banned by your government
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jetdevil2001: The idea Russian press is controlled by government is mistaken, rather then US press, where I found they all were under government or trusted the information that came from Georgia not taking into account the second side, I saw in the news that speech of Dana Rohrabacher, but I am sure you will never find this info anywhere else even if you try, everything is got banned by your government
Well now, you're on a real trip there son.
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jetdevil2001: The idea Russian press is controlled by government is mistaken, rather then US press, where I found they all were under government or trusted the information that came from Georgia not taking into account the second side, I saw in the news that speech of Dana Rohrabacher, but I am sure you will never find this info anywhere else even if you try, everything is got banned by your government
Sorry I wouldn't take Russia's view of the conflict anymore than I would take Georgia's view. The UK is pretty good at unveiling things but I would need an unbiased link to put any faith in this story.
As for myself I do think Georgia might have gotten a bit arrogant with all the US support I know it was receiving, however none of that excuses the excessive retribution by Russia or the promises Russia made and broke repeatedly during the conflict.
I think it was more about the oil pipeline running through Georgia more than anything else, oily greed.
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Skybow: Sorry I wouldn't take Russia's view of the conflict anymore than I would take Georgia's view. The UK is pretty good at unveiling things but I would need an unbiased link to put any faith in this story.
As for myself I do think Georgia might have gotten a bit arrogant with all the US support I know it was receiving, however none of that excuses the excessive retribution by Russia or the promises Russia made and broke repeatedly during the conflict.
I think it was more about the oil pipeline running through Georgia more than anything else, oily greed.
As for myself I do think Georgia might have gotten a bit arrogant with all the US support I know it was receiving, however none of that excuses the excessive retribution by Russia or the promises Russia made and broke repeatedly during the conflict.
I think it was more about the oil pipeline running through Georgia more than anything else, oily greed.
We have a winner! You're now entered for the Grand Prize drawing.
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Don216: We have a winner! You're now entered for the Grand Prize drawing.
Thank you , thank you very much. Now for my next trick watch me pupp a rabbit out of my hat! Oops, wrong hat.
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Skybow: Thank you , thank you very much. Now for my next trick watch me pupp a rabbit out of my hat! Oops, wrong hat.
Oops wrong word "pull"
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Skybow: Sorry I wouldn't take Russia's view of the conflict anymore than I would take Georgia's view. The UK is pretty good at unveiling things but I would need an unbiased link to put any faith in this story.
As for myself I do think Georgia might have gotten a bit arrogant with all the US support I know it was receiving, however none of that excuses the excessive retribution by Russia or the promises Russia made and broke repeatedly during the conflict.
I think it was more about the oil pipeline running through Georgia more than anything else, oily greed.
As for myself I do think Georgia might have gotten a bit arrogant with all the US support I know it was receiving, however none of that excuses the excessive retribution by Russia or the promises Russia made and broke repeatedly during the conflict.
I think it was more about the oil pipeline running through Georgia more than anything else, oily greed.
Well I mean hello...look at the size of Russia and look at he size of Georgia...Yeah like Georgia's ever gonna start a war with Russia....
Only they want to get creamed maybe...
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jetdevil2001: here are two links but the 2nd one stopped working five hours
gen.patton,was right,we shouldve went on,to russia,while we had the army there,they teamed up with china,for korea,etc.like patton said,we shouldve gotten those godless sobs/then,theyll be a pain in our sides,the sooner the better.------ This thread is Archived ------
reb56: gen.patton,was right,we shouldve went on,to russia,while we had the army there,they teamed up with china,for korea,etc.like patton said,we shouldve gotten those godless sobs/then,theyll be a pain in our sides,the sooner the better.
Obama wouldn't like the idea.
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"The Russians are right! We're wrong! Georgia started it, the Russians ended it," Rohrabacher said at a hearing in the House of Representatives.
Assistant Secretary of State Dan Fried said U.S. intelligence was still working on an exact chronology of the events of August 7 to verify Georgian claims that Russian forces were in Roki Tunnel, linking Russia to South Ossetia, before Georgia attacked. Fried said that the Bush administration had forcefully and repeatedly warned the Georgians against beginning military actions against Russia, and he was unable to say why Georgia chose to ignore that advice.
Nonetheless, Fried acknowledged that supporting Georgia was in U.S. interests, even if it considers the countries actions foolish.
Russia acknowledged the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia on August 26. Those republics requested that recognition after Georgian forces almost completely ruined Tskhinvali, the capital of South Ossetia, in the course of the event of August 8-12. More than 1500 civilians were killed in that time, according to South Ossetian authorities.