advice (42)

Nov 15, 2008 6:56 PM CST advice
uglysister
uglysisteruglysisterkilwinning, Strathclyde, Scotland UK3 Threads 623 Posts
mychelle: Heres....what...I..do...know.Some....alcoholics...drink....because...whats..in...the...bottle...is.
like....fire...in...their...soul....Some...feel...like...nobody...until...they...breathe
...in...this...fire...It...has...to..do..with...a..lack...of...self..esteem
...lack...of...self...worth...
This...person...you...speak...of...may...have...love...you,..
but..is..lost...and...need...to...find.her...way...back...
Thus...a..long..term....regular/..meeting...with...AA
(Alcoholic.Anonymous),and....some...treatment...in..Rehab.
You....are...considered...to..be..a...co..dependent...when...you...aid...her...in.
..getting...these...drinks...i.e...measuring...and..pouring....However....you.
.couldnot..have...known...this..because...you.thought...you..were...helping..
in..a...good...kind...manner,...because...of...your..
..caring..and..kind...nature.
If...at...any...time...you...need...to...vent...drop...me..a...line..



you drink because you hurt
you drink to ease pain
you drink to forget
and to remain sane
but when you wake up
nothing has changed
everything around is still the same
so why do you drink??!!
you must be insane
Nov 15, 2008 6:57 PM CST advice
uptail....There...is....a...song...with...words...I...just...called...to...say...I...love...you
from...the...bottom...of...my...heart
We...can;t....say....for....surety...why...someone....calls...you...and..
say...nothing....but...silence...sometimes...is...a...cry...for....help

hug wave
Nov 15, 2008 7:07 PM CST advice
uglysister
uglysisteruglysisterkilwinning, Strathclyde, Scotland UK3 Threads 623 Posts
mychelle: uptail....There...is....a...song...with...words...I...just...called...to...say...I...love...you
from...the...bottom...of...my...heart
We...can;t....say....for....surety...why...someone....calls...you...and..
say...nothing....but...silence...sometimes...is...a...cry...for....help



why are you writing like that??
have you been drinking alcohol??
Nov 15, 2008 7:18 PM CST advice
uptall
uptalluptallQuiet village..., Durham, England UK57 Threads 1 Polls 12,860 Posts
uglysister: why are you writing like that??
have you been drinking alcohol??




scold not me..........................................smoking
Nov 15, 2008 7:24 PM CST advice
uglysister
uglysisteruglysisterkilwinning, Strathclyde, Scotland UK3 Threads 623 Posts
uptall: not me..........................................



i didnt say you..............im just curious as to why Mychelle is writing her posts like that??confused confused
Nov 15, 2008 7:28 PM CST advice
uptall
uptalluptallQuiet village..., Durham, England UK57 Threads 1 Polls 12,860 Posts
uglysister: i didnt say you..............im just curious as to why Mychelle is writing her posts like that??




well that's ok ......as i don't drink.....tip hat............ wave
Nov 15, 2008 7:29 PM CST advice
uglysister
uglysisteruglysisterkilwinning, Strathclyde, Scotland UK3 Threads 623 Posts
uptall: well that's ok ......as i don't drink.................


well done you........nasty habit of clouding your judgementprofessor professor


tongue
Nov 15, 2008 7:47 PM CST advice
jojo69
jojo69jojo69Birmingham, but from Liverpool, West Midlands, England UK15 Threads 1 Polls 1,565 Posts
uglysister: im afraid i dont agree that its a shame.........its a shame for the people round about them who have to deal with the drunken behaviour and lying on a daily basis. there is plenty of help out there for alcoholics and why dont they take the help?.............because they are selfish and can only think of themselves and where the next bottle is coming from.


Sure there is plenty of help out there........................ But till they realize they have a problem, they won't think they need help!!

I have an alcoholic mother..... She too made mine and my siblings life such a horendous ordeal! I always stuck by her, through her drinking and her lies of astronomical depths!!! But,,,,, When one night she phoned me.. Drunk,,, and used my kids in her lies.......I knew time had come to cut her out of my life...... I love her, but did not want her to screw up my kids heads the way she has mine!!!

She made contact recently, but she is still the same..................

I have this aching in my heart for my mom........... I try to tell myself ...Jeez woman, get a grip, you are nearly 40, why still crave for a mothers love?
Nov 15, 2008 7:55 PM CST advice
uglysister
uglysisteruglysisterkilwinning, Strathclyde, Scotland UK3 Threads 623 Posts
jojo69: Sure there is plenty of help out there........................ But till they realize they have a problem, they won't think they need help!!

I have an alcoholic mother..... She too made mine and my siblings life such a horendous ordeal! I always stuck by her, through her drinking and her lies of astronomical depths!!! But,,,,, When one night she phoned me.. Drunk,,, and used my kids in her lies.......I knew time had come to cut her out of my life...... I love her, but did not want her to screw up my kids heads the way she has mine!!!

She made contact recently, but she is still the same..................

I have this aching in my heart for my mom........... I try to tell myself ...Jeez woman, get a grip, you are nearly 40, why still crave for a mothers love?


i totally agree with that and there was no way i would have let my mother mess with my kids heads the way she had mine.
i think you go back to being that little girl and still crave the love you should have had thenconfused

when i think of the relationships some of my friends have with thier mums it does make me think ive missed out and would love to have that but after all the years of hurt and pain i know its never going to happen. doesnt stop you wanting it thoughsigh


hug hug
Nov 15, 2008 7:59 PM CST advice
jojo69
jojo69jojo69Birmingham, but from Liverpool, West Midlands, England UK15 Threads 1 Polls 1,565 Posts
uglysister: i totally agree with that and there was no way i would have let my mother mess with my kids heads the way she had mine.
i think you go back to being that little girl and still crave the love you should have had then

when i think of the relationships some of my friends have with thier mums it does make me think ive missed out and would love to have that but after all the years of hurt and pain i know its never going to happen. doesnt stop you wanting it though


Too True! In fact..... I am the mother I am now, cos of her..... She taught me how NOT to be a mom!!!!
Nov 15, 2008 8:04 PM CST advice
uglysister
uglysisteruglysisterkilwinning, Strathclyde, Scotland UK3 Threads 623 Posts
jojo69: Too True! In fact..... I am the mother I am now, cos of her..... She taught me how NOT to be a mom!!!!




yes how very true.............and i think i taught her how to be a gran as she had no idea of how to be a mother.

i also think it makes us stronger and less capable of taking bull for our children but not neccessarily the same for ourselves.

dunno
Nov 15, 2008 8:13 PM CST advice
jojo69
jojo69jojo69Birmingham, but from Liverpool, West Midlands, England UK15 Threads 1 Polls 1,565 Posts
uglysister: yes how very true.............and i think i taught her how to be a gran as she had no idea of how to be a mother.

i also think it makes us stronger and less capable of taking bull for our children but not neccessarily the same for ourselves.


I truly hope one day, before it's too late, I can have with my mom what you now have with your's.

"Taking bull for our children" Because of what she put us through and made to go through at hands of one of her Bros' I have not and will not trust my kids to anyone, bar my sis! (Ok I am going to shut up now, as am giving too much of myself away!!!!!) Barrier back up!! LOL
Nov 15, 2008 8:22 PM CST advice
uglysister
uglysisteruglysisterkilwinning, Strathclyde, Scotland UK3 Threads 623 Posts
jojo69: I truly hope one day, before it's too late, I can have with my mom what you now have with your's.

"Taking bull for our children" Because of what she put us through and made to go through at hands of one of her Bros' I have not and will not trust my kids to anyone, bar my sis! (Ok I am going to shut up now, as am giving too much of myself away!!!!!) Barrier back up!! LOL



i can totally identify with everything you are saying............so over protective of my boys. i dont really have too much of a relationship with my mum but my boys do which im very happy about for them.

but i truly think if it wasnt for the boys i would have nothing to do with her at all.


and yes i know all about those barriers too!!
Nov 15, 2008 10:53 PM CST advice
uglysister: i didnt say you..............im just curious as to why Mychelle is writing her posts like that??

mychelle..isnt.drunk.either,computer,acts,up
Nov 15, 2008 10:55 PM CST advice
uglysister: why are you writing like that??
have you been drinking alcohol??

No.neither.does.my.keyboardscold
Nov 16, 2008 2:46 AM CST advice
mike1937
mike1937mike1937Broadstairs, Kent, England UK11 Threads 554 Posts
uglysister: i can totally identify with everything you are saying............so over protective of my boys. i dont really have too much of a relationship with my mum but my boys do which im very happy about for them.

but i truly think if it wasnt for the boys i would have nothing to do with her at all.and yes i know all about those barriers too!!


I think you are right and not being over protective - It's right to let them have contact as often as they wish if its acceptable to you - but I hope you will watch out for the signs that they might be *persuaded* to go her way.

That happened to a younger work colleague some years ago where he had a similar problem and caught the kids drinking one day when he went around to his mothers while they were there as he had becoime suspicious. - He asked me to go along as a silent independent witness so I did as there were alreedy legal implications involved and the kids new me but not too closely.

It was difficult after that but fortunately the kids were brought up sufficiently mature to see alcoholism as abnormal conduct.
Nov 16, 2008 9:19 AM CST advice
mike1937
mike1937mike1937Broadstairs, Kent, England UK11 Threads 554 Posts
uglysister: im hoping that i have brought the boys up to have a responsible attitude to having a sociable drink and not drinking to get drunk.
my oldest is 14 and never been in an intoxicated state. i do give him the odd shandy or bottle of beer if we are at a family get together but he knows he is only allowed to do that if im present...............fingers crossed seems to be the best way so far.
as for my mother giving them drink................she wouldnt dare!! and they are not allowed to go near if she has been drinking which fortunately these days is on rare occassions.


Sounds like Ye dun gid wi the laddies 'n its nice they take notice o ye.
ye get my vote wink lips
Nov 16, 2008 9:42 AM CST advice
uglysister
uglysisteruglysisterkilwinning, Strathclyde, Scotland UK3 Threads 623 Posts
mike1937: Sounds like Ye dun gid wi the laddies 'n its nice they take notice o ye.
ye get my vote



im a wee pitbull when i have to belaugh laugh

they no what side thier bread is buttered..........play fair with me.........i play fair with them..........if not?? they feel my wrath!!laugh laugh

thanks for the nice words you are very much a gentleman.........with a very witty and wicked sense of humourthumbs up thumbs up
Nov 16, 2008 2:06 PM CST advice
guiriman
guirimanguirimansouth of milan, Lombardy Italy53 Threads 6 Polls 2,128 Posts
yes, Uptall, i tried loving an alcoholic...it's impossible...believe me i tried...she had no love for herself...and couldn't accept mine..and yes..your love does love the bottle much more than she will ever love you...it's the cold reality.
Nov 16, 2008 2:23 PM CST advice
uglysister
uglysisteruglysisterkilwinning, Strathclyde, Scotland UK3 Threads 623 Posts
guiriman: yes, Uptall, i tried loving an alcoholic...it's impossible...believe me i tried...she had no love for herself...and couldn't accept mine..and yes..your love does love the bottle much more than she will ever love you...it's the cold reality.


as much as i would love to say it isnt true...........i think you have hit the nail on the head. with an alcoholic the next drink is more important to them than ANYTHING else in their lives.
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