Who listens to that voice within? ( Archived) (46)

Nov 16, 2008 10:56 AM CST Who listens to that voice within?
Dusty43
Dusty43Dusty43Louisville, Kentucky USA5 Threads 164 Posts
It's nice to to read - get information - research - 'he said, she said, they said..."

but

who actually listens to what's inside them and

has 'experienced' \ the wisdom of the spirit?

All the information 'out there' is interesting but

it's all just words - someone else's opinions, besides, really, our own.

What are some of your 'inside' experiences?
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Nov 16, 2008 11:02 AM CST Who listens to that voice within?
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Dusty43: It's nice to to read - get information - research - 'he said, she said, they said..."

but

who actually listens to what's inside them and

has 'experienced' the wisdom of the spirit?

All the information 'out there' is interesting but

it's all just words - someone else's opinions, besides, really, our own.

What are some of your 'inside' experiences?



Most of whatI have learned and speak about has come from the voice from within..anything I have learned or information I receive has to agree with that voice first before I do....My choices...plans and people I choose to have as friends also must resonate with that voice...so I constantly listen to it...but it took me a lot of years to learn to do so!!!!!!!!


wave wink hug teddybear hug bouquet bouquet
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Nov 16, 2008 11:18 AM CST Who listens to that voice within?
Dusty43
Dusty43Dusty43Louisville, Kentucky USA5 Threads 164 Posts
I think it's hard to hear --

so

covered up by all

the noise of

the

Ego.
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Nov 16, 2008 11:21 AM CST Who listens to that voice within?
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Dusty43: I think it's hard to hear --

so

covered up by all

the noise of

the

Ego.



Yes you have to get rid of the noise of the things that don't matter....wave wink hug teddybear teddybear hug bouquet
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Nov 16, 2008 11:23 AM CST Who listens to that voice within?
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
I believe in Ichinen Sanzen, literally 3000 worlds in a single life moment.

Its the totality of my life at any moment, and includes not only my thoughts and feelings, but those of my peers and the phenomena that make up my environment. As such, all information, from outside, inside, from an enlightened state contained within a tree, from the buddha-nature of a rock, or from a passage quoted from the bible by a christian, are the buddha attempting to enlighten me via "Expedient Means", or, whatever means are most appropriate to the time and place in question, and according to my own present level of understanding...

Thus, when the seeker is ready, the way shall appear.

You make a distinction between outside and inside, dusty. That's dualistic thinking. wink grin

I know how you hate to be accused of that. laugh tongue

hug
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Nov 16, 2008 11:23 AM CST Who listens to that voice within?
Dusty43
Dusty43Dusty43Louisville, Kentucky USA5 Threads 164 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Yes you have to get rid of the noise of the things that don't matter....


That could be everything in this 'illusionary' world.
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Nov 16, 2008 11:24 AM CST Who listens to that voice within?
Dusty43
Dusty43Dusty43Louisville, Kentucky USA5 Threads 164 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: I believe in Ichinen Sanzen, literally 3000 worlds in a single life moment.

Its the totality of my life at any moment, and includes not only my thoughts and feelings, but those of my peers and the phenomena that make up my environment. As such, all information, from outside, inside, from an enlightened state contained within a tree, from the buddha-nature of a rock, or from a passage quoted from the bible by a christian, are the buddha attempting to enlighten me via "Expedient Means", or, whatever means are most appropriate to the time and place in question, and according to my own present level of understanding...

Thus, when the seeker is ready, the way shall appear.

You make a distinction between outside and inside, dusty. That's dualistic thinking.

I know how you hate to be accused of that.


Yep, one foot in and one foot out. laugh
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Nov 16, 2008 11:26 AM CST Who listens to that voice within?
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Dusty43: That could be everything in this 'illusionary' world.



When it comes to that voice yes...it deals in reality....wink
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Nov 16, 2008 11:29 AM CST Who listens to that voice within?
Dusty43
Dusty43Dusty43Louisville, Kentucky USA5 Threads 164 Posts
I am at the point where I realize it's all an illusion, the world isn't real...

but it feels so real and many times it hard for me to realize that

you are me. wave
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Nov 16, 2008 11:35 AM CST Who listens to that voice within?
Dusty43
Dusty43Dusty43Louisville, Kentucky USA5 Threads 164 Posts
Haha That's really stretching it, huh. wink laugh
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Nov 16, 2008 11:40 AM CST Who listens to that voice within?
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Dusty43: Haha That's really stretching it, huh.


Non-local, non-dualistic. You are me and visa-versa...It is only the ego that maya (illusion) has instilled in us that prevents us from seeing this dependent origination. "We" are one, "we" are buddha, and there is no "bad" buddha, or "good" buddha, only the buddha. Those are labels attributible to ego. When this is accepted, all things become enlightenment. grin

grin hug
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Nov 16, 2008 11:43 AM CST Who listens to that voice within?
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
Sometimes its soooooo surprising when u listen to yourself .. theres so much more wisdom and clarity in the inner voice than what your conscious mind perceives ..
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Nov 16, 2008 11:45 AM CST Who listens to that voice within?
Dusty43
Dusty43Dusty43Louisville, Kentucky USA5 Threads 164 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: Non-local, non-dualistic. You are me and visa-versa...It is only the ego that maya (illusion) has instilled in us that prevents us from seeing this dependent origination. "We" are one, "we" are buddha, and there is no "bad" buddha, or "good" buddha, only the buddha. Those are labels attributible to ego. When this is accepted, all things become enlightenment.


Thank you, Tracy. That is the thinking I adhere to. As soon as I get my foot unstuck.
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Nov 16, 2008 11:47 AM CST Who listens to that voice within?
Dusty43
Dusty43Dusty43Louisville, Kentucky USA5 Threads 164 Posts
riyablossom: Sometimes its soooooo surprising when u listen to yourself .. theres so much more wisdom and clarity in the inner voice than what your conscious mind perceives ..


Isn't that the Truth.
(I know I've been listening when I don't respond.blushing )
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Nov 16, 2008 11:51 AM CST Who listens to that voice within?
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Dusty43: Isn't that the Truth.
(I know I've been listening when I don't respond. )


Silence and emptiness are siamese twins. When we achieve emptiness, we also listen to the silence that informs all...

That is Zen. The teaching of which is transmitted not by words, but by expression. The simple perfection of a silent flower is the object of the Flower Sermon, not spoken, but rather, experienced. thumbs up
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Nov 16, 2008 11:52 AM CST Who listens to that voice within?
Dusty43
Dusty43Dusty43Louisville, Kentucky USA5 Threads 164 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: Silence and emptiness are siamese twins. When we achieve emptiness, we also listen to the silence that informs all...

That is Zen. The teaching of which is transmitted not by words, but by expression. The simple perfection of a silent flower is the object of the Flower Sermon, not spoken, but rather, experienced.


That I can understand. Your're helping me, you know...
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Nov 16, 2008 11:58 AM CST Who listens to that voice within?
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: Silence and emptiness are siamese twins. When we achieve emptiness, we also listen to the silence that informs all...

That is Zen. The teaching of which is transmitted not by words, but by expression. The simple perfection of a silent flower is the object of the Flower Sermon, not spoken, but rather, experienced.


but it be soo gnawing .. the truth is many times not the most comfortable zone to be in.
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Nov 16, 2008 11:59 AM CST Who listens to that voice within?
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
riyablossom: but it be soo gnawing .. the truth is many times not the most comfortable zone to be in.


it can be so ..
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Nov 16, 2008 12:02 PM CST Who listens to that voice within?
Dusty43
Dusty43Dusty43Louisville, Kentucky USA5 Threads 164 Posts
riyablossom: it can be so ..


Not easy in this dreamworld. hug
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Nov 16, 2008 12:17 PM CST Who listens to that voice within?
brokenspirit
brokenspiritbrokenspiritLittlespot, Nebraska USA41 Threads 603 Posts
As being with a Native American for 2 years plus being raised
between 2 reservations I have learned to truly believe in our
spirit nature who will lead us if we take time to close our minds
and listen. I had an overwhelming experience with night spirits
and an enlightening one at a healing ceremony.

Spoken by a Native American Leader

I believe that we can express our natural gratitude and faith in
making a better world and honor one another as sacred beings
and creatures of a greater source.... whichever you may choose
to believe.

Pilamaya.... Thank You
Mitaki Oyasin... We Are All Relatives
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