A subject that I have always thought was incorrectly termed (79)
Sommerauer71: Heart do not break, in my opinion.
When we hurt, it is not the heart that hurts, it is all of us.
So, my thought today, my Saturday morning rambling, is that the heart is not breakable.
Only when it is not healthy.
When a person you love is away from you and you miss them, what is the feeling that you feel?
A gut feeling, a feeling of tension, that comes in our mind, a knot in the stomach.
Hearts are attached to love, not sure why, it is a muscle that pumps blood, accepts blood, an unattractive mass of muscle that no person aside from Hannibal Lecter would enjoy viewing.
So, I do not beleive in broken hearts, when I feel hurt it comes from the stomach, my whole body, from deep inside me.
So many cliches are attached to the heart, if our heart was to break, we would have heart attacks.
What do you think folks?
When we hurt, it is not the heart that hurts, it is all of us.
So, my thought today, my Saturday morning rambling, is that the heart is not breakable.
Only when it is not healthy.
When a person you love is away from you and you miss them, what is the feeling that you feel?
A gut feeling, a feeling of tension, that comes in our mind, a knot in the stomach.
Hearts are attached to love, not sure why, it is a muscle that pumps blood, accepts blood, an unattractive mass of muscle that no person aside from Hannibal Lecter would enjoy viewing.
So, I do not beleive in broken hearts, when I feel hurt it comes from the stomach, my whole body, from deep inside me.
So many cliches are attached to the heart, if our heart was to break, we would have heart attacks.
What do you think folks?
Despair.
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NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: Despair.
Hi Naked (love your screen name)
Despair, yes, but where does that feeling of despair come from?
Not your heart, we are conditioned to think it is from our heart, but it is not, when you feel despair, you want to vomit?
You feel nauseous?
You want to cry?
You want to shout?
That is not from the heart, it is from your stomach, your brain telling you that your body is hurting.
No?
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desperate grief is the closest I ever came to my heart literally breaking - I must have a strong one though cos the physical pain I did feel at that moment was definitely in my heart.....
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I do agree - it is a much overused cliche......
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Hello my favourite Lancashire lass.
I am not in any way dismissing your pain Trish, but your heart is strong, if it is healthy.
It was not your heart that was hurting, if you were breathing.
Pain comes from within, yes it does.
But the heart still works, it does not break.
DId you feel sick?
I am not in any way dismissing your pain Trish, but your heart is strong, if it is healthy.
It was not your heart that was hurting, if you were breathing.
Pain comes from within, yes it does.
But the heart still works, it does not break.
DId you feel sick?
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Good one. I googled the word origin of broken heart and it seems to have come from the bible. I know the pain too well. 
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jeepers: Good one. I googled the word origin of broken heart and it seems to have come from the bible. I know the pain too well.
Ah that is where it came from.
Thank you Jeepers, I should have known.
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Sommerauer71: Hello my favourite Lancashire lass.
I am not in any way dismissing your pain Trish, but your heart is strong, if it is healthy.
It was not your heart that was hurting, if you were breathing.
Pain comes from within, yes it does.
But the heart still works, it does not break.
DId you feel sick?
I am not in any way dismissing your pain Trish, but your heart is strong, if it is healthy.
It was not your heart that was hurting, if you were breathing.
Pain comes from within, yes it does.
But the heart still works, it does not break.
DId you feel sick?
Hiya Sommer, nope - I actually had physical pains which I had never experienced relative to any relationship breakdown - I was at a bedside in intensive care and the doctors were standing by me as the death of my loved one was inevitable by that stage...... my heart didnt break but it was as close as I have ever experienced......
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trish123: Hiya Sommer, nope - I actually had physical pains which I had never experienced relative to any relationship breakdown - I was at a bedside in intensive care and the doctors were standing by me as the death of my loved one was inevitable by that stage...... my heart didnt break but it was as close as I have ever experienced......
Hey you, go and say hi to my dad will you?
You know I am going to argue (in a respective manner of course)
Your point, your heart was not where the pain stemmed from, you hurt, you were in pain, the feeling of losing a loved one, it bloody hurts, it damn well does, but our hearts is not where the pain comes from.
The heart feeling the pain, comes from the bible, Jeepers tells us, and then from the media, Valentine's Day, what is the marketing ploy there, a heart.
So, do you not think that it is all propoganda, pomp and ceremony that tells us that our heart aches?
I need a doctor in here, to qualify what I am saying, but the heart does not hurt, only when we are having a heart attack.
So, my next question, when we are in pain, be that grief, emotional distress, where does that pain stem from?
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tumtum52: l think huet is from the brain, having something all your life, and then loosing it, if you hurt from love and what you had in life, can be replaced by a better love and understanding
Hello Tum.
Yes, I think the brain is where it comes from.
And emotional intelligence will get us through pain and hurt.
Along with time, but our brain is the one stem of our functions, so our brains are easily fed, we are led to believe that hurt comes from the heart.
Is this not true?
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Steven
Ah, that slams my theory into the water.
However, yes I can see your points.
I was not aware there was a scientific explaination.
Of course, when we are in pain, then all of us hurts, but I struggle with the term, broken heart.
Stress from when we are in pain, can bring on heart problems, yes I agree, but when a relationship ends, a broken heart is attached to the pain.
This I have a problem with.
Look at a child, who suffers the loss of a parent.
We do not attach a 'broken heart' to their pain, our emotions are delivered to that child in a different manner, we fear that they will suffer, we fear that they will not be able to cope.
Children's hearts breaking are not broken, we do not say that a child breaks his/her heart.
But we do an adult. Hearts are attached to love, from movies, from the media, it is a cliche.
I can see the medical area around this, the heart is an important organ, but pain does not come from the heart, pain can make the heart weaker.
My only explaination for this.
Who is going through pain.
This is driving me insane.
Ah, that slams my theory into the water.
However, yes I can see your points.
I was not aware there was a scientific explaination.
Of course, when we are in pain, then all of us hurts, but I struggle with the term, broken heart.
Stress from when we are in pain, can bring on heart problems, yes I agree, but when a relationship ends, a broken heart is attached to the pain.
This I have a problem with.
Look at a child, who suffers the loss of a parent.
We do not attach a 'broken heart' to their pain, our emotions are delivered to that child in a different manner, we fear that they will suffer, we fear that they will not be able to cope.
Children's hearts breaking are not broken, we do not say that a child breaks his/her heart.
But we do an adult. Hearts are attached to love, from movies, from the media, it is a cliche.
I can see the medical area around this, the heart is an important organ, but pain does not come from the heart, pain can make the heart weaker.
My only explaination for this.
Who is going through pain.
This is driving me insane.
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Sommerauer71: Hey you, go and say hi to my dad will you?
You know I am going to argue (in a respective manner of course)
Your point, your heart was not where the pain stemmed from, you hurt, you were in pain, the feeling of losing a loved one, it bloody hurts, it damn well does, but our hearts is not where the pain comes from.
The heart feeling the pain, comes from the bible, Jeepers tells us, and then from the media, Valentine's Day, what is the marketing ploy there, a heart.
So, do you not think that it is all propoganda, pomp and ceremony that tells us that our heart aches?
I need a doctor in here, to qualify what I am saying, but the heart does not hurt, only when we are having a heart attack.
So, my next question, when we are in pain, be that grief, emotional distress, where does that pain stem from?
You know I am going to argue (in a respective manner of course)
Your point, your heart was not where the pain stemmed from, you hurt, you were in pain, the feeling of losing a loved one, it bloody hurts, it damn well does, but our hearts is not where the pain comes from.
The heart feeling the pain, comes from the bible, Jeepers tells us, and then from the media, Valentine's Day, what is the marketing ploy there, a heart.
So, do you not think that it is all propoganda, pomp and ceremony that tells us that our heart aches?
I need a doctor in here, to qualify what I am saying, but the heart does not hurt, only when we are having a heart attack.
So, my next question, when we are in pain, be that grief, emotional distress, where does that pain stem from?
haha, and you know I will argue back, respectfully too
all kinds of things can heighten heart attack risks, even down to the flu or lack of sleep - I had been by that bed for 2 weeks at that stage........
The heart breaking as in the valentine kinda stuff is ridiculous but it does all depend on other factors.
The pain was coming from my realisation of the reality of my loss, so in that sense it was mental yes, but it was having a physical effect, stress, which overloads the mental capacities and heightens blood pressure etc. people have physical reactions to shock all the time and it doesnt necessarily mean they have weak hearts just simply that there is a temporary overload on the system..... which can cause pain.
Will say hi to your Dad if i see him
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See this I get.
It is the right way around.
I like things the right way around.
It makes it easier for me to understand.
So the pain causes stress on the heart?
But the pain does not come from the heart?
The heart is not where it stems from.
Do, he is bald, beautiful, huge smile.
He loves women so watch him.
It is the right way around.
I like things the right way around.
It makes it easier for me to understand.
So the pain causes stress on the heart?
But the pain does not come from the heart?
The heart is not where it stems from.
Do, he is bald, beautiful, huge smile.
He loves women so watch him.
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Sommerauer71: See this I get.
It is the right way around.
I like things the right way around.
It makes it easier for me to understand.
So the pain causes stress on the heart?
But the pain does not come from the heart?
The heart is not where it stems from.
Do, he is bald, beautiful, huge smile.
He loves women so watch him.
It is the right way around.
I like things the right way around.
It makes it easier for me to understand.
So the pain causes stress on the heart?
But the pain does not come from the heart?
The heart is not where it stems from.
Do, he is bald, beautiful, huge smile.
He loves women so watch him.
Im not sure that it matters too much where it comes from - the result, the physical and mental overload work together to produce the outcome - they whole situation is one to be avoided at all costs - imo
I guess in some people with weaker hearts, the effect is more instant but rationalisation isnt really present anyway in such circumstances.
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trish123: Im not sure that it matters too much where it comes from - the result, the physical and mental overload work together to produce the outcome - they whole situation is one to be avoided at all costs - imo
I guess in some people with weaker hearts, the effect is more instant but rationalisation isnt really present anyway in such circumstances.
I guess in some people with weaker hearts, the effect is more instant but rationalisation isnt really present anyway in such circumstances.
No it does not matter in the great scheme of things, but to me it does.
I prefer the term my heart is bruised, they do recover.
I had a deep feeling that the bible would be to blame.
That was a gut instinct.
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Sommerauer71: No it does not matter in the great scheme of things, but to me it does.
I prefer the term my heart is bruised, they do recover.
I had a deep feeling that the bible would be to blame.
That was a gut instinct.
I prefer the term my heart is bruised, they do recover.
I had a deep feeling that the bible would be to blame.
That was a gut instinct.
Im not going there with condemning the Bible - you know my views there
I will never ever use the term "my heart is broken" in a flippant sense though - we definitely agree on that one
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Love is such a deep deep emotion, it stems from your very being your soul, when the love is taken away your soul screams out in agony at its loss, as it's an intangiable thing, you can't comfort a crying soul, can't hug a soul and say all will be ok.
That emotional stress has to get release, it does so by gripping your stomach, by making your heart beat faster and puts stress into the whole body.
Remember Sommer, when you were at the airport, and saw him for the first time? What was your heart doing at that moment, it was beating so fast you had to catch your breath,maybe it also does the same when that emotion has been destroyed.
A broken heart is a euphemism for a broken soul.
That emotional stress has to get release, it does so by gripping your stomach, by making your heart beat faster and puts stress into the whole body.
Remember Sommer, when you were at the airport, and saw him for the first time? What was your heart doing at that moment, it was beating so fast you had to catch your breath,maybe it also does the same when that emotion has been destroyed.
A broken heart is a euphemism for a broken soul.
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When we hurt, it is not the heart that hurts, it is all of us.
So, my thought today, my Saturday morning rambling, is that the heart is not breakable.
Only when it is not healthy.
When a person you love is away from you and you miss them, what is the feeling that you feel?
A gut feeling, a feeling of tension, that comes in our mind, a knot in the stomach.
Hearts are attached to love, not sure why, it is a muscle that pumps blood, accepts blood, an unattractive mass of muscle that no person aside from Hannibal Lecter would enjoy viewing.
So, I do not beleive in broken hearts, when I feel hurt it comes from the stomach, my whole body, from deep inside me.
So many cliches are attached to the heart, if our heart was to break, we would have heart attacks.
What do you think folks?