life after death myth or reality (130)

Aug 27, 2011 10:08 AM CST life after death myth or reality
viva007
viva007viva007HYDERABAD, Telangana India41 Threads 8 Polls 7,447 Posts
Navymuffin: Well, where I live I'm surrounded by mountains.
haha I lived in Col Springs for 2 years surrounded by mountains too...lol
Aug 27, 2011 10:09 AM CST life after death myth or reality
2intrigued
2intrigued2intriguedMississauga, Ontario Canada11 Threads 18,576 Posts
EagleWoman: Just because you can't see the sun with YOUR own eyes during the night, doesn't mean it's not there!!

Same goes for our perceptions of lack of them!!

Dogs can hear sounds that most humans can't hear, doesn't mean the sounds don't exist... And they are far more attuned to energies etc... For instance, my last partner was away working on the mountains, no communication because no mob coverage, no return date because of not knowing when the job would be finished ... on the day of his return, I knew because my dog went and lay by the door ... after a couple of, I thought no because it had already gotten so dark, but my dog was right!!! She went and started waiting for him at the precise moment they had set off from the mountain.

This story is only to illustrate that because most humans don't perceive certain things, it doesn't mean they don't exist!!


thumbs up thumbs up I had an experience many years ago that is only one of many that convinces me that there is more beyond our world of reality and belief...I truly do believe cheers
Aug 27, 2011 10:11 AM CST life after death myth or reality
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
EagleWoman: Just because you can't see the sun with YOUR own eyes during the night, doesn't mean it's not there!!

Same goes for our perceptions of lack of them!!

Dogs can hear sounds that most humans can't hear, doesn't mean the sounds don't exist... And they are far more attuned to energies etc... For instance, my last partner was away working on the mountains, no communication because no mob coverage, no return date because of not knowing when the job would be finished ... on the day of his return, I knew because my dog went and lay by the door ... after a couple of, I thought no because it had already gotten so dark, but my dog was right!!! She went and started waiting for him at the precise moment they had set off from the mountain.

This story is only to illustrate that because most humans don't perceive certain things, it doesn't mean they don't exist!!



Well your female logic baffles merolling on the floor laughing Suffice to say the sun comes up the next day affirming my belief that it was just having a kip, wheras not many people have contacted us from beyond, on a provable basis. angel
Aug 27, 2011 10:13 AM CST life after death myth or reality
grizzwald
grizzwaldgrizzwaldalexandra bay, New York USA12 Threads 1,151 Posts
tomcatwarne: Yes. but this is clearly attributed to the dog's extrordinary scenting ability and not to some extrasensory perception.
I have no idea why really, only commenting ...that they do seem to sense things and smell these ailments ...and perhaps we should be using them for early detection of ailments that require an early detection for successful treatments.


In life after death ...I have no real feeling one way or the other,but like to think there is more to life than what we experience in this world as we know it...handshake
Aug 27, 2011 10:13 AM CST life after death myth or reality
Navymuffin
NavymuffinNavymuffinMontrose, Colorado USA8 Threads 730 Posts
viva007: haha I lived in Col Springs for 2 years surrounded by mountains too...lol
Nice.lol
Aug 27, 2011 10:16 AM CST life after death myth or reality
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
grizzwald: I have no idea why really, only commenting ...that they do seem to sense things and smell these ailments ...and perhaps we should be using them for early detection of ailments that require an early detection for successful treatments.In life after death ...I have no real feeling one way or the other,but like to think there is more to life than what we experience in this world as we know it...



If you bothered to read through the article you introduced, it clearly answers the questions you bring up grin grin grin grin grin cheers
Aug 27, 2011 10:16 AM CST life after death myth or reality
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
tomcatwarne: Well your female logic baffles me Suffice to say the sun comes up the next day affirming my belief that it was just having a kip, wheras not many people have contacted us from beyond, on a provable basis.


Point taken about the sun ...

The fact remains that because most people can't perceive something it doesn't make it unexistant IMO

What do you call a provable basis?
Aug 27, 2011 10:20 AM CST life after death myth or reality
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
EagleWoman: Point taken about the sun ...

The fact remains that because most people can't perceive something it doesn't make it unexistant IMO

What do you call a provable basis?


The usual empirical evidence, but please this is a subjective belief, I'm sure one look in your beautiful eyes in real life, and I'd believe anything you saygrin grin cool wine
Aug 27, 2011 10:24 AM CST life after death myth or reality
Sterling_Wollops
Sterling_WollopsSterling_WollopsMelburn't, Victoria Australia22 Threads 2 Polls 1,749 Posts
tomcatwarne: The usual empirical evidence, but please this is a subjective belief, I'm sure one look in your beautiful eyes in real life, and I'd believe anything you say


Typical male, discount everything the woman says then move in on the physical side tongue
Aug 27, 2011 10:24 AM CST life after death myth or reality
grizzwald
grizzwaldgrizzwaldalexandra bay, New York USA12 Threads 1,151 Posts
tomcatwarne: If you bothered to read through the article you introduced, it clearly answers the questions you bring up
I'm simply not that interested as I stated in the other thread...I read till I am satisfied ...and that does not always require me to read everything ...only till I'm am satisfied....

handshake
Aug 27, 2011 10:33 AM CST life after death myth or reality
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Sterling_Wollops: Typical male, discount everything the woman says then move in on the physical side



Are you saying she doesn't have beautiful eyes?tongue cheers
Aug 27, 2011 10:39 AM CST life after death myth or reality
2intrigued
2intrigued2intriguedMississauga, Ontario Canada11 Threads 18,576 Posts
When I was a very young child I would occasionally see and hear people who have passed away and inform my parents of my experiences. My parents were astonished with the information I stated about people I've never known. My mother was concerned so she had our church priest over to our house for a visit to ask him. He told my mother that the minds of children are clean slates with no developed inhibitions which makes them perceptive to such things. He spoke to me about my experiences and told me not to fear them but to embrace them as they are a gift. As the years went by, my experiences lessened but I can still perceive "a presence". It is what it is and I refuse to deny the existence of the spirit world. cheers
Aug 27, 2011 10:46 AM CST life after death myth or reality
Sterling_Wollops
Sterling_WollopsSterling_WollopsMelburn't, Victoria Australia22 Threads 2 Polls 1,749 Posts
tomcatwarne: Are you saying she doesn't have beautiful eyes?


No just saying if you wanted to shack up with her you should have listened to what she had to say rolling on the floor laughing
Aug 27, 2011 10:51 AM CST life after death myth or reality
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Sterling_Wollops: No just saying if you wanted to shack up with her you should have listened to what she had to say



Then you misunderstand the whole situation, you can compliment a woman without wanting to "shack up" with her. Or maybe it's different in your world.grin dunno
Aug 27, 2011 10:53 AM CST life after death myth or reality
grizzwald
grizzwaldgrizzwaldalexandra bay, New York USA12 Threads 1,151 Posts
Sterling_Wollops: No just saying if you wanted to shack up with her you should have listened to what she had to say
but see that requires that you read the whole passage....and we know that that is not always the case....professor laugh


We read till we are satisfied that "We got it" even tho we may not have gotten it ALL..


Which is my down fall..and will be the first to admit this fault in myself..


Long reads bore me and I simply think that most things can be put across in a lot less words....But as I said this is one of my many flaws....laugh
Aug 27, 2011 10:56 AM CST life after death myth or reality
Sterling_Wollops
Sterling_WollopsSterling_WollopsMelburn't, Victoria Australia22 Threads 2 Polls 1,749 Posts
tomcatwarne: Then you misunderstand the whole situation, you can compliment a woman without wanting to "shack up" with her. Or maybe it's different in your world.


laugh There are shacks everywhere here so its common grin
Aug 27, 2011 10:56 AM CST life after death myth or reality
2intrigued
2intrigued2intriguedMississauga, Ontario Canada11 Threads 18,576 Posts
2intrigued: When I was a very young child I would occasionally see and hear people who have passed away and inform my parents of my experiences. My parents were astonished with the information I stated about people I've never known. My mother was concerned so she had our church priest over to our house for a visit to ask him. He told my mother that the minds of children are clean slates with no developed inhibitions which makes them perceptive to such things. He spoke to me about my experiences and told me not to fear them but to embrace them as they are a gift. As the years went by, my experiences lessened but I can still perceive "a presence". It is what it is and I refuse to deny the existence of the spirit world.


Oh, and btw...I had no "imaginary friends" laugh
Aug 27, 2011 10:56 AM CST life after death myth or reality
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
grizzwald: but see that requires that you read the whole passage....and we know that that is not always the case.... We read till we are satisfied that "We got it" even tho we may not have gotten it ALL..Which is my down fall..and will be the first to admit this fault in myself..Long reads bore me and I simply think that most things can be put across in a lot less words....But as I said this is one of my many flaws....



Ok, stop grizzling grizz, we all have faults. Have a beer.cheers cheers
Aug 27, 2011 10:58 AM CST life after death myth or reality
grizzwald
grizzwaldgrizzwaldalexandra bay, New York USA12 Threads 1,151 Posts
tomcatwarne: Ok, stop grizzling grizz, we all have faults. Have a beer.
to early for a beer ...still in coffee mode.....but thanks for the offer all the same...cheers
Aug 27, 2011 10:58 AM CST life after death myth or reality
Sterling_Wollops
Sterling_WollopsSterling_WollopsMelburn't, Victoria Australia22 Threads 2 Polls 1,749 Posts
grizzwald: but see that requires that you read the whole passage....and we know that that is not always the case.... We read till we are satisfied that "We got it" even tho we may not have gotten it ALL..Which is my down fall..and will be the first to admit this fault in myself..Long reads bore me and I simply think that most things can be put across in a lot less words....But as I said this is one of my many flaws....


Its not a flaw, read as far into anything as you like...
The extra words are for those that are craving more information handshake
Aug 27, 2011 10:59 AM CST life after death myth or reality
Sterling_Wollops
Sterling_WollopsSterling_WollopsMelburn't, Victoria Australia22 Threads 2 Polls 1,749 Posts
2intrigued: Oh, and btw...I had no "imaginary friends"
giggle
Aug 27, 2011 11:44 AM CST life after death myth or reality
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
2intrigued: When I was a very young child I would occasionally see and hear people who have passed away and inform my parents of my experiences. My parents were astonished with the information I stated about people I've never known. My mother was concerned so she had our church priest over to our house for a visit to ask him. He told my mother that the minds of children are clean slates with no developed inhibitions which makes them perceptive to such things. He spoke to me about my experiences and told me not to fear them but to embrace them as they are a gift. As the years went by, my experiences lessened but I can still perceive "a presence". It is what it is and I refuse to deny the existence of the spirit world.


My sister was the same, and still is, she regularly sees people who have pasted. We dont talk about it a lot as I believe when you are dead thats it, there is nothing more.

The only thing we agree on is that there is no god so we stick to that lol.
Aug 27, 2011 4:59 PM CST life after death myth or reality
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
tomcatwarne: The usual empirical evidence, but please this is a subjective belief, I'm sure one look in your beautiful eyes in real life, and I'd believe anything you say



laugh

You'd bevieve the unbelievable bacause after I'd healed your headache/wound/backache/abcess etc by just laying my hands on the affected area, time after time after time, you would run out of emperical explanations and would have to admit there's loads out there we have very little clue about!!!

cool grin
Aug 27, 2011 5:00 PM CST life after death myth or reality
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
grizzwald: animals seem to be able to detect ailments before modern tests are able to as well...
one of many sites that claim this seems to be what is happening


thumbs up
Aug 27, 2011 5:02 PM CST life after death myth or reality
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
2intrigued: I had an experience many years ago that is only one of many that convinces me that there is more beyond our world of reality and belief...I truly do believe


thumbs up I've had many such experiences!! wave

cheers
Aug 27, 2011 5:06 PM CST life after death myth or reality
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
2intrigued: When I was a very young child I would occasionally see and hear people who have passed away and inform my parents of my experiences. My parents were astonished with the information I stated about people I've never known. My mother was concerned so she had our church priest over to our house for a visit to ask him. He told my mother that the minds of children are clean slates with no developed inhibitions which makes them perceptive to such things. He spoke to me about my experiences and told me not to fear them but to embrace them as they are a gift. As the years went by, my experiences lessened but I can still perceive "a presence". It is what it is and I refuse to deny the existence of the spirit world.


thumbs up You don't have to deny it or your experiences!! They are there!!!

It's a good job the priest your mum called was who he was. I know mediums who were "drugged" by their parents on the advice of the "professionals" for many years!! Until they discovered that what they had was the gift of mediumship!!! By which time much damage had been done to them emotionally and medically speaking!! doh
Aug 27, 2011 5:27 PM CST life after death myth or reality
2intrigued
2intrigued2intriguedMississauga, Ontario Canada11 Threads 18,576 Posts
EagleWoman: You don't have to deny it or your experiences!! They are there!!!

It's a good job the priest your mum called was who he was. I know mediums who were "drugged" by their parents on the advice of the "professionals" for many years!! Until they discovered that what they had was the gift of mediumship!!! By which time much damage had been done to them emotionally and medically speaking!!


I suppose it was lucky for me that he was of a conservative protestant...I remember him as a very kind and gentle soul who often visited my parents for tea. He knew me well because of my attendance at the church and through his visits.
I don't deny my experiences at all...I just try to avoid discussing it because a lot of people don't understand with the exception of those who have experienced these things themselves. You know exactly what it's all about. teddybear bouquet
Aug 27, 2011 5:36 PM CST life after death myth or reality
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
2intrigued: I suppose it was lucky for me that he was of a conservative protestant...I remember him as a very kind and gentle soul who often visited my parents for tea. He knew me well because of my attendance at the church and through his visits.
I don't deny my experiences at all...I just try to avoid discussing it because a lot of people don't understand with the exception of those who have experienced these things themselves. You know exactly what it's all about.


Yep!! I do!!

Good job they're not so eager to send for the white coats these days!! laugh teddybear bouquet
Aug 27, 2011 5:38 PM CST life after death myth or reality
2intrigued
2intrigued2intriguedMississauga, Ontario Canada11 Threads 18,576 Posts
EagleWoman: Yep!! I do!!

Good job they're not so eager to send for the white coats these days!!


laugh Absolutely...including frontal lobotomies uh oh rolling on the floor laughing hug
Aug 27, 2011 5:42 PM CST life after death myth or reality
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
My mother was beaten to death by my father.

There are things I need to know.

I don't mean as in, with a stick – he just died first.




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