The European Union And the United Kingdom Should we stay or should we leave (14)
Tomcats2: The UK Parliament is currentley debating wether we should have a referendum over Staying in or leaving The EU what do you Think?
I'm pretty certain if Cameron is forced into a Referendum,[and his back benchers are against him now] the public will vote us out.
Trouble is they will probably do it for all the wrong reasons and none of the right.
By the way how was the meal and the massage Tom?
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i pesronally would stay in the EU . we do half of our business in europe and yes there are some strange rules and a lot of beauracracy but we can travel and live in 26 other nations, we would lose that and i want my kids to experience a great life with the opportunity to experience many more then British having Irish and Polish blood and being raised in england i feel that voting agianst the eu would be hypocritical.
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Short answer is 'stay'...
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I think the economic situation in Europe is not very good, is this true?
well i am from Brazil
well i am from Brazil
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Tomcats2: bump
Hi Tomcat
I really don't know what to think anymore.Do we need the E.U
I read the news and our country is flooded with people from other EU countries most of whom are unemployed and draining the resources of the Welfare state and our National Health of which they have contributed nothing!!!!!!!!!!
The latest news that the maximum of £26000 will be payable [ though rejected ] in benefits is ludicrous when you consider what a pensioner has to survive on.
We don't get this support if we go to other countries in the EU so why is it happening here.j.m.o.
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Hi BB totally agree with you, in Norfolk everyother person going for a job is from eastern Europe im lucky i have job not a great one but one i like i look for other work went for an intervie just before xmas and nearly got a management position which was given to an Estonian found out he was prepared to work for £5000 a year less then me so they employed him, we are getting under cut and our wages are going down what will it be liek when my boys are working in ten yeras time? It freightens me!
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Tomcats2: Hi BB totally agree with you, in Norfolk everyother person going for a job is from eastern Europe im lucky i have job not a great one but one i like i look for other work went for an intervie just before xmas and nearly got a management position which was given to an Estonian found out he was prepared to work for £5000 a year less then me so they employed him, we are getting under cut and our wages are going down what will it be liek when my boys are working in ten yeras time? It freightens me!
Hi TC,
I would not know for sure on this one.
Probably to stay is the best thing as
within Europe.
To leave would be a hell of a blow with
the amounts of money the EU give to the UK.
Hmm really the state of a lot of the economies
at the present time are bad.
I agree that people like pensioners do not get
enough to live on, especially if they are just
on state pensions and have no income from working.
I agree that the country has taken in far too many
immigrants over the years, there should have been a
cut off point on the numbers.
AT the death its the Government that has been elected
that will decide I reckon. A vote on it, well if the
people were well informed before voting then that will
be the decider.
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Sailfree: Hi TC,
I would not know for sure on this one.
Probably to stay is the best thing as
within Europe.
To leave would be a hell of a blow with
the amounts of money the EU give to the UK.
Hmm really the state of a lot of the economies
at the present time are bad.
I agree that people like pensioners do not get
enough to live on, especially if they are just
on state pensions and have no income from working.
I agree that the country has taken in far too many
immigrants over the years, there should have been a
cut off point on the numbers.
AT the death its the Government that has been elected
that will decide I reckon. A vote on it, well if the
people were well informed before voting then that will
be the decider.
I would not know for sure on this one.
Probably to stay is the best thing as
within Europe.
To leave would be a hell of a blow with
the amounts of money the EU give to the UK.
Hmm really the state of a lot of the economies
at the present time are bad.
I agree that people like pensioners do not get
enough to live on, especially if they are just
on state pensions and have no income from working.
I agree that the country has taken in far too many
immigrants over the years, there should have been a
cut off point on the numbers.
AT the death its the Government that has been elected
that will decide I reckon. A vote on it, well if the
people were well informed before voting then that will
be the decider.
I would personally think that was the other way round,which is another reason the Brits are fed up propping up Spain ,Italy ,Greece and Portugal.
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bestbefore: I would personally think that was the other way round,which is another reason the Brits are fed up propping up Spain ,Italy ,Greece and Portugal.
I have no wish to get into politics here.
There are 27 countries in the European Community.
There was initially only 6 and it expanded after
that.
Each country joining agrees to pay a percentage in
relation to the population of the country.
The coffers is what is then used to bail out any
European country that is in difficulty.
All the stats are easily accessed on the net either
by Google or others.
It does make for interesting reading.
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Sailfree: I have no wish to get into politics here.
There are 27 countries in the European Community.
There was initially only 6 and it expanded after
that.
Each country joining agrees to pay a percentage in
relation to the population of the country.
The coffers is what is then used to bail out any
European country that is in difficulty.
All the stats are easily accessed on the net either
by Google or others.
It does make for interesting reading.
There are 27 countries in the European Community.
There was initially only 6 and it expanded after
that.
Each country joining agrees to pay a percentage in
relation to the population of the country.
The coffers is what is then used to bail out any
European country that is in difficulty.
All the stats are easily accessed on the net either
by Google or others.
It does make for interesting reading.
So does this!
Chart: How much does Britain pay into the EU and what does it get back?
By THIS IS MONEY REPORTERS
Last updated at 10:18 AM on 23rd October 2011
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Does Britain really put much more into Europe than it gets out? How have our contributions risen and fallen? This chart reveals how the EU works for us.
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Being a member of the European Union has been a one-way street for Britain. Contributions from Britain to the EU budget have outstripped the benefits received in every single year of membership.
In total since 1979, Britain has paid in about €260?billion (£228?billion). It has received back in benefits just €163?billion (£143?billion). The difference of €97?billion (£85?billion at today’s exchange rate) has been Britain’s subsidy to the European project.
Each nation’s contribution is based mainly on its Gross National Income, a measure of its economic output and earnings from overseas. The budget is spent on a range of projects to do with agriculture, fisheries, social projects and other Brussels subsidies.
Britain’s contribution figure would have been even higher had it not been for Margaret Thatcher’s tough stance in 1984, when she famously negotiated a rebate on the basis that the vast bulk of EU spending went on agricultural subsidies and Britain received a far lower proportion of this than other nations.
Under the terms of the rebate, Britain’s contributions were cut while other countries which benefited most from agricultural subsidies (mainly France) paid more.
Since 1985 Britain’s rebate has been worth a total of almost €90?billion (£79?billion at today’s exchange rate). Though as our graph shows, Britain’s contributions have still consistently far outstripped the benefits it receives.
The rebate would have been higher in recent years had not Tony Blair given up part of it under pressure from EU leaders. He agreed to cut it by about 20 per cent from 2007 until the next round of budget negotiations in 2013. So far, his concession has cost Britain about £4?billion.
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Says it all really don't you think.
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bestbefore: So does this!
Chart: How much does Britain pay into the EU and what does it get back?
By THIS IS MONEY REPORTERS
Last updated at 10:18 AM on 23rd October 2011
Comments (51)
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Does Britain really put much more into Europe than it gets out? How have our contributions risen and fallen? This chart reveals how the EU works for us.
Enlarge
Being a member of the European Union has been a one-way street for Britain. Contributions from Britain to the EU budget have outstripped the benefits received in every single year of membership.
In total since 1979, Britain has paid in about €260?billion (£228?billion). It has received back in benefits just €163?billion (£143?billion). The difference of €97?billion (£85?billion at today’s exchange rate) has been Britain’s subsidy to the European project.
Each nation’s contribution is based mainly on its Gross National Income, a measure of its economic output and earnings from overseas. The budget is spent on a range of projects to do with agriculture, fisheries, social projects and other Brussels subsidies.
Britain’s contribution figure would have been even higher had it not been for Margaret Thatcher’s tough stance in 1984, when she famously negotiated a rebate on the basis that the vast bulk of EU spending went on agricultural subsidies and Britain received a far lower proportion of this than other nations.
Under the terms of the rebate, Britain’s contributions were cut while other countries which benefited most from agricultural subsidies (mainly France) paid more.
Since 1985 Britain’s rebate has been worth a total of almost €90?billion (£79?billion at today’s exchange rate). Though as our graph shows, Britain’s contributions have still consistently far outstripped the benefits it receives.
The rebate would have been higher in recent years had not Tony Blair given up part of it under pressure from EU leaders. He agreed to cut it by about 20 per cent from 2007 until the next round of budget negotiations in 2013. So far, his concession has cost Britain about £4?billion.
Read more: it all really don't you think.
Chart: How much does Britain pay into the EU and what does it get back?
By THIS IS MONEY REPORTERS
Last updated at 10:18 AM on 23rd October 2011
Comments (51)
Share
Does Britain really put much more into Europe than it gets out? How have our contributions risen and fallen? This chart reveals how the EU works for us.
Enlarge
Being a member of the European Union has been a one-way street for Britain. Contributions from Britain to the EU budget have outstripped the benefits received in every single year of membership.
In total since 1979, Britain has paid in about €260?billion (£228?billion). It has received back in benefits just €163?billion (£143?billion). The difference of €97?billion (£85?billion at today’s exchange rate) has been Britain’s subsidy to the European project.
Each nation’s contribution is based mainly on its Gross National Income, a measure of its economic output and earnings from overseas. The budget is spent on a range of projects to do with agriculture, fisheries, social projects and other Brussels subsidies.
Britain’s contribution figure would have been even higher had it not been for Margaret Thatcher’s tough stance in 1984, when she famously negotiated a rebate on the basis that the vast bulk of EU spending went on agricultural subsidies and Britain received a far lower proportion of this than other nations.
Under the terms of the rebate, Britain’s contributions were cut while other countries which benefited most from agricultural subsidies (mainly France) paid more.
Since 1985 Britain’s rebate has been worth a total of almost €90?billion (£79?billion at today’s exchange rate). Though as our graph shows, Britain’s contributions have still consistently far outstripped the benefits it receives.
The rebate would have been higher in recent years had not Tony Blair given up part of it under pressure from EU leaders. He agreed to cut it by about 20 per cent from 2007 until the next round of budget negotiations in 2013. So far, his concession has cost Britain about £4?billion.
Read more: it all really don't you think.
So many reports and stats on the worlds economy.
I still pay my council tax, and all other taxes
in the UK. So perhaps I am one of the hard done
by ones also. Who is to blame for it all?
So what I think or what anyone single person thinks
matters not a whet. Nothing will change.
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Sailfree: So many reports and stats on the worlds economy.
I still pay my council tax, and all other taxes
in the UK. So perhaps I am one of the hard done
by ones also. Who is to blame for it all?
So what I think or what anyone single person thinks
matters not a whet. Nothing will change.
I still pay my council tax, and all other taxes
in the UK. So perhaps I am one of the hard done
by ones also. Who is to blame for it all?
So what I think or what anyone single person thinks
matters not a whet. Nothing will change.
This thread is about the UK and the EU not the World's economy.
If you have a home here then obviously you have to pay tax on it,but not if it's unoccupied ,or is it rented out?
Of course it matters what others think hence the thread.Burying one's head in the sand is not the answer.
As for change, I personally think that if it goes to a Referendum we will be out. We are not in the Euro which is fast going down the drain, and we would be a lot better off financially if we didn't have to keep shoring it up.j.m.o.
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bestbefore: This thread is about the UK and the EU not the World's economy.
If you have a home here then obviously you have to pay tax on it,but not if it's unoccupied ,or is it rented out?
Of course it matters what others think hence the thread.Burying one's head in the sand is not the answer.
As for change, I personally think that if it goes to a Referendum we will be out. We are not in the Euro which is fast going down the drain, and we would be a lot better off financially if we didn't have to keep shoring it up.j.m.o.
If you have a home here then obviously you have to pay tax on it,but not if it's unoccupied ,or is it rented out?
Of course it matters what others think hence the thread.Burying one's head in the sand is not the answer.
As for change, I personally think that if it goes to a Referendum we will be out. We are not in the Euro which is fast going down the drain, and we would be a lot better off financially if we didn't have to keep shoring it up.j.m.o.
Indeed this thread is about the UK.
Frankly what the UK decides regarding staying in or going out of the EU is of no consequence to me. I will be long gone from there by the time its decided on. Having property is the UK is just a waste of my money. When a property is furnished regardless of being occoupied or not then council tax is payable.
I wish the people of UK all the best and hope they will indeed be better off in all aspects of their lives. Good luck. Just my opinion.
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The European Union And the United Kingdom Should we stay or should we leave(Vote Below)