is The USA a force for good in the world? (204)

Apr 17, 2012 11:42 AM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
john12196341
john12196341john12196341jamestown, North Dakota USA53 Threads 684 Posts
chris27292729: Then you have no any other option,wage another war across your borders,with Mexico+Canada.-
i am not avocating that i mearly stated that we shouldn't trade with mexico or canada. that treaty has hurt our economy so bad. as far as mexico goes we have a big problem with all the illegals and drugs coming into the US,]. we should tell mexico either you clean up and fixed the problem or all trade and tourist dealings will stop
Apr 17, 2012 11:43 AM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
john12196341: i agree with u on that. the world is going to hell and there are those who either don't care or they stoke the flames. the UK is a great nation along with the US and i have to say that we two nations are most civilized and tolerant than others


Bullcocky roll eyes
Apr 17, 2012 11:44 AM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
Tomcats2: Why should Canada be greatful for The USA please explain you lost me?


Indeed
Apr 17, 2012 11:44 AM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
bestbefore
bestbeforebestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK116 Threads 2 Polls 4,701 Posts
Conrad73: Guess you're right!
His posts are always evenhanded!
But the Subject sure brought them out of the Woodwork,as usual!


See America in the title go for the jugular.

Bet our Lizzie is sick of pulling knives out of her back too.laugh
Apr 17, 2012 11:44 AM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
i find there is alot of sussing out, well i have news for you. god knows your thinking b4 u thought it now, night xxxxx
Apr 17, 2012 11:46 AM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
Nikogas
NikogasNikogasMetro, Oregon USA46 Threads 5 Polls 4,037 Posts
vinny1967: I understand that and I concur. I just think there was no malice intended from him as he is not a regular participant in the Intl's and would not realise the amount of people ready to spew their hatred. As I say I know his posts quiet a while and I have never seen him insult anyone and is always respectful.


I can only see what is displayed here, and I do not see him speaking any peace,,,,maybe sitting back to watch...we will see.
Apr 17, 2012 11:47 AM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
john12196341
john12196341john12196341jamestown, North Dakota USA53 Threads 684 Posts
venusenvy: Bullcocky
what does canada offer to the world? hockey?
Apr 17, 2012 11:47 AM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
Scubadiva
ScubadivaScubadivaNew Jersey, USA106 Threads 11 Polls 2,689 Posts
is the usa a force for good in the world.... what is the usa anymore. More and more I think one has to separate the people from the politics. I think the people are good people for the most part, but they have no say in anything. They think they do, but they don't. Would a scandal like Watergate break today? Impossible. That says a lot, imo.
Apr 17, 2012 11:48 AM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
Nikogas: I can only see what is displayed here, and I do not see him speaking any peace,,,,maybe sitting back to watch...we will see.


handshake
Apr 17, 2012 11:49 AM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
john12196341: i am not avocating that i mearly stated that we shouldn't trade with mexico or canada. that treaty has hurt our economy so bad. as far as mexico goes we have a big problem with all the illegals and drugs coming into the US,]. we should tell mexico either you clean up and fixed the problem or all trade and tourist dealings will stop


Really? Heres another newsflash for you Einstein ...Theres a good reason why our finance minister is advocating cutting ties with the States and why our Prime Minister is forging new trade alliances in new markets. We are tired of footing the bill for a country that doesnt pay its bills and is so fiscally irresponsible. As for Mexico, its all about getting product (drugs) to the AMERICAN market roll eyes
Apr 17, 2012 11:50 AM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
Nikogas
NikogasNikogasMetro, Oregon USA46 Threads 5 Polls 4,037 Posts
Scubadiva: is the usa a force for good in the world.... what is the usa anymore. More and more I think one has to separate the people from the politics. I think the people are good people for the most part, but they have no say in anything. They think they do, but they don't. Would a scandal like Watergate break today? Impossible. That says a lot, imo.


I dont know anyone that even "thinks" they have a say.
Apr 17, 2012 11:52 AM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
john12196341: what does canada offer to the world? hockey?
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Oil baby among many other things Wow! you really know less than nothing...Well I have better things to do today than get into a battle of wits with an unarmed opponant talk to hand
Apr 17, 2012 11:53 AM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
bestbefore
bestbeforebestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK116 Threads 2 Polls 4,701 Posts
Nikogas: I can only see what is displayed here, and I do not see him speaking any peace,,,,maybe sitting back to watch...we will see.


He hasn't got a nasty bone in his body Niko.

He just had no idea when posting how the mud slingers and haters would come out and tear the thread to pieces.handshake

He is usually on the UK Forums and it's usually peaceful there.
Apr 17, 2012 11:54 AM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
john12196341
john12196341john12196341jamestown, North Dakota USA53 Threads 684 Posts
i wasn't the one that started the brawl. it was the guy from canada. i am defending the US on here. somebody has to do it and i would defend my nation with my last breath along with other americans who love theis nation. with all due respect there are 4 things that made up this nation. 1.God, 2,Guns,3. Guts, and 4.Courage
Apr 17, 2012 11:56 AM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
john12196341
john12196341john12196341jamestown, North Dakota USA53 Threads 684 Posts
venusenvy: Really? Heres another newsflash for you Einstein ...Theres a good reason why our finance minister is advocating cutting ties with the States and why our Prime Minister is forging new trade alliances in new markets. We are tired of footing the bill for a country that doesnt pay its bills and is so fiscally irresponsible. As for Mexico, its all about getting product (drugs) to the AMERICAN market
you people need us more than we need u! ur government is far more screwed up than ours
Apr 17, 2012 11:58 AM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
Nikogas
NikogasNikogasMetro, Oregon USA46 Threads 5 Polls 4,037 Posts
bestbefore: He hasn't got a nasty bone in his body Niko.

He just had no idea when posting how the mud slingers and haters would come out and tear the thread to pieces.

He is usually on the UK Forums and it's usually peaceful there.


As I said, we will see. I know what I would do but everyone is different. I'm sure you have a good relation with him. I am sick of all the ridicule and I guess it just will not stop....best thing to do is let it go where it will.
Apr 17, 2012 11:59 AM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
bestbefore
bestbeforebestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK116 Threads 2 Polls 4,701 Posts
Nikogas: As I said, we will see. I know what I would do but everyone is different. I'm sure you have a good relation with him. I am sick of all the ridicule and I guess it just will not stop....best thing to do is let it go where it will.


You and me both Niko. Leave the wolves alone and they turn on each other eventually.handshake
Apr 17, 2012 12:01 PM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
john12196341
john12196341john12196341jamestown, North Dakota USA53 Threads 684 Posts
venusenvy: \\

Oil baby among many other things Wow! you really know less than nothing...Well I have better things to do today than get into a battle of wits with an unarmed opponant
well if it wasn't for that idoit in the white house we would get ur oil but this nation has oil to last 2000 years. once again hate america tirade that is what u canucks do best. have a good day
Apr 17, 2012 12:03 PM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
Nikogas
NikogasNikogasMetro, Oregon USA46 Threads 5 Polls 4,037 Posts
john12196341: i wasn't the one that started the brawl. it was the guy from canada. i am defending the US on here. somebody has to do it and i would defend my nation with my last breath along with other americans who love theis nation. with all due respect there are 4 things that made up this nation. 1.God, 2,Guns,3. Guts, and 4.Courage


And because of that you are vulnerable to people pushing your button. Not all, but many will,,,,many just think you are a ignorant man and think it is funny to get you wound up... You have the choice to do as you wish, but always know what the result will be,,like, do you get where you want in the end?
Apr 17, 2012 12:08 PM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
john12196341
john12196341john12196341jamestown, North Dakota USA53 Threads 684 Posts
Nikogas: And because of that you are vulnerable to people pushing your button. Not all, but many will,,,,many just think you are a ignorant man and think it is funny to get you wound up... You have the choice to do as you wish, but always know what the result will be,,like, do you get where you want in the end?
i am not ignorant and i do know what i am saying since i have a BA. it is they that are ignorant and hateful. alot of people would agree that we should stop all aid to other nations and help our people out first because they need it. that is why we are in the fix we are in because we think about other people than our own problems. we need to stop helping other nations except if they really need it after we taken care of our people
Apr 17, 2012 12:23 PM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
Nikogas
NikogasNikogasMetro, Oregon USA46 Threads 5 Polls 4,037 Posts
john12196341: i am not ignorant and i do know what i am saying since i have a BA. it is they that are ignorant and hateful. alot of people would agree that we should stop all aid to other nations and help our people out first because they need it. that is why we are in the fix we are in because we think about other people than our own problems. we need to stop helping other nations except if they really need it after we taken care of our people


John. I didn't say you were ignorant, and there are things I may agree with you, but the hatred of others just does not cut it with me. And for the rest of the people that may read this....can you see how hard it is to even have a united country??? Well, it is not, most are not unless they are under a martial law or other power that tells the people what they will do or die. In America, we have so many different lines of thought none of them seem to have the impact. And it is headed on a direction that is not better,,only more division. But think about this. If America becomes a True Police State, If our democracy really falls, what the heck do you think that will be like???????
Seriusly, we need to be reunited not divided, the death of the USA government would not be a site to see. Unless there is a wish for a major destruction. I am not. John, I dont have a BA, I am a Barber. So if someone wants to rip me up for that than whatever,,,I have heard all the derogatory remarks.
Apr 17, 2012 12:30 PM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
john12196341
john12196341john12196341jamestown, North Dakota USA53 Threads 684 Posts
Nikogas: John. I didn't say you were ignorant, and there are things I may agree with you, but the hatred of others just does not cut it with me. And for the rest of the people that may read this....can you see how hard it is to even have a united country??? Well, it is not, most are not unless they are under a martial law or other power that tells the people what they will do or die. In America, we have so many different lines of thought none of them seem to have the impact. And it is headed on a direction that is not better,,only more division. But think about this. If America becomes a True Police State, If our democracy really falls, what the heck do you think that will be like???????
Seriusly, we need to be reunited not divided, the death of the USA government would not be a site to see. Unless there is a wish for a major destruction. I am not. John, I dont have a BA, I am a Barber. So if someone wants to rip me up for that than whatever,,,I have heard all the derogatory remarks.
well u are a nice person on here
Apr 17, 2012 1:08 PM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
vinny1967: And you thought I missed it

Amazing what threads are allowed and what aren't. Mine's been locked and I fail to understand why ?

Anyway's Tomcats.
Personally I think that overall they have been a force for good. I think they have abused that position recently and I hope they have learnt from it. I think a complete overhall of political support and contributions is needed as when politicains come to power they are hogtied by the rich and powerful and are beholden to their agenda and as such its not democracy as they are not representing the people that have voted them in. America is not on its own in this unfortunately.


hiya vinny wave
my sentiments on this too...thumbs up
Apr 17, 2012 1:10 PM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
lindz29: 1941 america the ussr and the comon wealth countries australia newzealand and canada entered the war, since 1933 western europe faught the war, yet every film we see conserning WWII make one believe america faught the war alone.
the country with the largest inputs where the u.k. and the ussr, americas input near the end was maily financial.
i know my history on WWII very well thank you.

by the way i wasnt trieng to get into an historicle debate i mearly used this as an example.


then dig a little deeper and see that Canada made significant
contributions as well...and often unrecognized for it.
Apr 17, 2012 1:11 PM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
Boban1: Well lets see, how many countries had the US bombarded after the second WW ...


Maybe I missed a few,anyway... seems there are a lot of villains out there ,if the US is led by people who mean good ...


holy carpoli boban!!!
that was an eye opener!!
Apr 17, 2012 1:13 PM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
jono7: holy carpoli boban!!!
that was an eye opener!!
but when we look at the Context,it does look slightly different!laugh
Apr 17, 2012 1:16 PM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
john12196341: listen up mister. canada is a stupid state. if u don't like america then u like a terror state like iran, like russia which doesn't like freedom of speech and north korea where it imprisons its own people and let them starve. the u.s is the best nation in the world and it alot better than canada. if u feel that way then the u.s. should stop having ur trucks from coming in this nation and impose a very very high tarriff of goods coming from there. i don't like u bashing this nation. the treaty which gives canada and mexico the right to trade with this natio(nafta) has hurt this nation.


the only thing more astounding than your ignorance is your self adulation...
do some homework...and see the truth of who benefits the most from the trade agreements with canada....pppft!
and as for medical...hands down canada has superior medical to the states. wake up.

now having said that...i have many friends in the states, and have lived and worked there as well. it's folks like you that give the rest of the world such a bad impression of the folks from the USA.
but unlike you...i don't write off a whole country because of ill informed folks like you.
Apr 17, 2012 1:20 PM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
john12196341: what does canada offer to the world? hockey?


you get most of your oil from us.
not to mention you're trying to negotiate for more water as well..
don't you read?
Apr 17, 2012 1:22 PM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
alonerdo
alonerdoalonerdoHuixquilucan, Mexico State Mexico3 Threads 1 Polls 228 Posts
Tomcats2: Found that on cs many people have differing opinions on the United States of America was wondering what people thought of the country? To be honest sometimes i love the United States other times they frieghten me.

what do you think?


The road to hell is paved with "good" intentions!devil angel grin
Apr 17, 2012 1:24 PM CST is The USA a force for good in the world?
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
Conrad73: but when we look at the Context,it does look slightly different!


hi conrad wave
i'm still gobsmacked by that list!....
wow doh

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